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2013-08-19 3:18 PM
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When you put quotes around something to reference what someone said you need to directly quote them, not paraphrase and omit.  Looks to me like you read what you wrote, not what I wrote.

When you use the terms conservatives and liberals, and make a judgment of what values or approaches you deem as better... don't be so suprised when someone takes it as such.

My parents were quite conservative, not politically, socially... yet they "demistified" everything for me. Quite blunt, to the point, even informative.... and I wanted to try it all out as soon as I could. I'm very curious.

I guess at this time, if we were the last two people on Earth... sex is out of the question?

Well, I'd have to be in the mood first, and you're kinda suckin at that today

That figures. The only guy left on Earth says something to the only girl left on Earth that manages to tick her off and cut him off.  

Sex was easy, but my parents never taught me how to not off girls. Laughing

That is a lesson that can't be taught. Because nobody yet has the answer. Not even girls.

Word.

I have the answer, but I'm not telling


I call shenanigans.


2013-08-19 3:29 PM
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Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by mr2tony
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Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch

When you put quotes around something to reference what someone said you need to directly quote them, not paraphrase and omit.  Looks to me like you read what you wrote, not what I wrote.

When you use the terms conservatives and liberals, and make a judgment of what values or approaches you deem as better... don't be so suprised when someone takes it as such.

My parents were quite conservative, not politically, socially... yet they "demistified" everything for me. Quite blunt, to the point, even informative.... and I wanted to try it all out as soon as I could. I'm very curious.

I guess at this time, if we were the last two people on Earth... sex is out of the question?

Well, I'd have to be in the mood first, and you're kinda suckin at that today

That figures. The only guy left on Earth says something to the only girl left on Earth that manages to tick her off and cut him off.  

Sex was easy, but my parents never taught me how to not off girls. Laughing

That is a lesson that can't be taught. Because nobody yet has the answer. Not even girls.

Word.

I have the answer, but I'm not telling

How can you have the answer when the question keeps changing?
2013-08-19 3:31 PM
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Originally posted by BrianRunsPhilly
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by mr2tony
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch

When you put quotes around something to reference what someone said you need to directly quote them, not paraphrase and omit.  Looks to me like you read what you wrote, not what I wrote.

When you use the terms conservatives and liberals, and make a judgment of what values or approaches you deem as better... don't be so suprised when someone takes it as such.

My parents were quite conservative, not politically, socially... yet they "demistified" everything for me. Quite blunt, to the point, even informative.... and I wanted to try it all out as soon as I could. I'm very curious.

I guess at this time, if we were the last two people on Earth... sex is out of the question?

Well, I'd have to be in the mood first, and you're kinda suckin at that today;)

That figures. The only guy left on Earth says something to the only girl left on Earth that manages to tick her off and cut him off.  

Sex was easy, but my parents never taught me how to not off girls. Laughing

That is a lesson that can't be taught. Because nobody yet has the answer. Not even girls.

Word.

I have the answer, but I'm not telling;)
How can you have the answer when the question keeps changing?

The question is really fairly static.

Gottaski has offered some good advice on this board.  It holds a lot of truths and is worth the read.

2013-08-19 3:39 PM
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Though I don't have any kids and so my opinion doesn't count, I can tell you what DIDN'T work for me when I was growing up...

My parents doing nothing but telling me that sex/sexual contact/boys in general were bad and/or forbidden.  I remember distinctly at about 8 years old my mom pulling me into the bedroom and telling me to "stay away from boys because all they want to do is have SEX with you!".  Um... okay... but what the heck is sex? She wouldn't tell me and just said that I'd find out later.  My parents then decided to leave it up to the school to fulfill my education when it came to all things sex-related.  Not such a great plan on their part.

Having them essentially forbid me to stay away from boys really only had the opposite effect of making me want to find out what was so bad about them... Innocent

2013-08-19 3:41 PM
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Originally posted by BrianRunsPhilly
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by mr2tony
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch

When you put quotes around something to reference what someone said you need to directly quote them, not paraphrase and omit.  Looks to me like you read what you wrote, not what I wrote.

When you use the terms conservatives and liberals, and make a judgment of what values or approaches you deem as better... don't be so suprised when someone takes it as such.

My parents were quite conservative, not politically, socially... yet they "demistified" everything for me. Quite blunt, to the point, even informative.... and I wanted to try it all out as soon as I could. I'm very curious.

I guess at this time, if we were the last two people on Earth... sex is out of the question?

Well, I'd have to be in the mood first, and you're kinda suckin at that today

That figures. The only guy left on Earth says something to the only girl left on Earth that manages to tick her off and cut him off.  

Sex was easy, but my parents never taught me how to not off girls. Laughing

That is a lesson that can't be taught. Because nobody yet has the answer. Not even girls.

Word.

I have the answer, but I'm not telling
How can you have the answer when the question keeps changing?

The question is really fairly static.

Gottaski has offered some good advice on this board.  It holds a lot of truths and is worth the read.



Ugh, I need to figure out the new website search function. I searched on his name and came up with a post on using a slow cooker
2013-08-19 3:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Dear Daughter...
Originally posted by BrianRunsPhilly
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by BrianRunsPhilly
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by mr2tony
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch

When you put quotes around something to reference what someone said you need to directly quote them, not paraphrase and omit.  Looks to me like you read what you wrote, not what I wrote.

When you use the terms conservatives and liberals, and make a judgment of what values or approaches you deem as better... don't be so suprised when someone takes it as such.

My parents were quite conservative, not politically, socially... yet they "demistified" everything for me. Quite blunt, to the point, even informative.... and I wanted to try it all out as soon as I could. I'm very curious.

I guess at this time, if we were the last two people on Earth... sex is out of the question?

Well, I'd have to be in the mood first, and you're kinda suckin at that today;)

That figures. The only guy left on Earth says something to the only girl left on Earth that manages to tick her off and cut him off.  

Sex was easy, but my parents never taught me how to not off girls. Laughing

That is a lesson that can't be taught. Because nobody yet has the answer. Not even girls.

Word.

I have the answer, but I'm not telling;)
How can you have the answer when the question keeps changing?

The question is really fairly static.

Gottaski has offered some good advice on this board.  It holds a lot of truths and is worth the read.

Ugh, I need to figure out the new website search function. I searched on his name and came up with a post on using a slow cooker :)

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=490196&page=2

He has a few different posts in this thread.



2013-08-19 3:49 PM
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Originally posted by switch

Originally posted by BrianRunsPhilly
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by BrianRunsPhilly
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by mr2tony
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch

When you put quotes around something to reference what someone said you need to directly quote them, not paraphrase and omit.  Looks to me like you read what you wrote, not what I wrote.

When you use the terms conservatives and liberals, and make a judgment of what values or approaches you deem as better... don't be so suprised when someone takes it as such.

My parents were quite conservative, not politically, socially... yet they "demistified" everything for me. Quite blunt, to the point, even informative.... and I wanted to try it all out as soon as I could. I'm very curious.

I guess at this time, if we were the last two people on Earth... sex is out of the question?

Well, I'd have to be in the mood first, and you're kinda suckin at that today

That figures. The only guy left on Earth says something to the only girl left on Earth that manages to tick her off and cut him off.  

Sex was easy, but my parents never taught me how to not off girls. Laughing

That is a lesson that can't be taught. Because nobody yet has the answer. Not even girls.

Word.

I have the answer, but I'm not telling
How can you have the answer when the question keeps changing?

The question is really fairly static.

Gottaski has offered some good advice on this board.  It holds a lot of truths and is worth the read.

Ugh, I need to figure out the new website search function. I searched on his name and came up with a post on using a slow cooker

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=490196&page=2

He has a few different posts in this thread.



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2013-08-19 3:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Dear Daughter...
Originally posted by BrianRunsPhilly
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by BrianRunsPhilly
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by mr2tony
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch

When you put quotes around something to reference what someone said you need to directly quote them, not paraphrase and omit.  Looks to me like you read what you wrote, not what I wrote.

When you use the terms conservatives and liberals, and make a judgment of what values or approaches you deem as better... don't be so suprised when someone takes it as such.

My parents were quite conservative, not politically, socially... yet they "demistified" everything for me. Quite blunt, to the point, even informative.... and I wanted to try it all out as soon as I could. I'm very curious.

I guess at this time, if we were the last two people on Earth... sex is out of the question?

Well, I'd have to be in the mood first, and you're kinda suckin at that today

That figures. The only guy left on Earth says something to the only girl left on Earth that manages to tick her off and cut him off.  

Sex was easy, but my parents never taught me how to not off girls. Laughing

That is a lesson that can't be taught. Because nobody yet has the answer. Not even girls.

Word.

I have the answer, but I'm not telling
How can you have the answer when the question keeps changing?

The question is really fairly static.

Gottaski has offered some good advice on this board.  It holds a lot of truths and is worth the read.

Ugh, I need to figure out the new website search function. I searched on his name and came up with a post on using a slow cooker

Careful what words you type, you'll get flagged by the NSA and they'll raid your house.  

2013-08-19 3:58 PM
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Originally posted by BrianRunsPhilly
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by BrianRunsPhilly
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by mr2tony
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by powerman
Originally posted by switch

When you put quotes around something to reference what someone said you need to directly quote them, not paraphrase and omit.  Looks to me like you read what you wrote, not what I wrote.

When you use the terms conservatives and liberals, and make a judgment of what values or approaches you deem as better... don't be so suprised when someone takes it as such.

My parents were quite conservative, not politically, socially... yet they "demistified" everything for me. Quite blunt, to the point, even informative.... and I wanted to try it all out as soon as I could. I'm very curious.

I guess at this time, if we were the last two people on Earth... sex is out of the question?

Well, I'd have to be in the mood first, and you're kinda suckin at that today

That figures. The only guy left on Earth says something to the only girl left on Earth that manages to tick her off and cut him off.  

Sex was easy, but my parents never taught me how to not off girls. Laughing

That is a lesson that can't be taught. Because nobody yet has the answer. Not even girls.

Word.

I have the answer, but I'm not telling
How can you have the answer when the question keeps changing?

The question is really fairly static.

Gottaski has offered some good advice on this board.  It holds a lot of truths and is worth the read.

Ugh, I need to figure out the new website search function. I searched on his name and came up with a post on using a slow cooker

Careful what words you type, you'll get flagged by the NSA and they'll raid your house.  



Stop putting pressure on me!!
2013-08-19 3:59 PM
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Originally posted by BrianRunsPhilly
Originally posted by Left Brain
Originally posted by KateTri1

Originally posted by Left Brain The Catholics forbid sex before marriage........ I'm just saying.

What are you "saying"?

I'm saying that forbidding a natural human function is a failed experiment.

Here's what I deal with.  I'm not sure I can use another word to accurately portray where my 15 year old son is with this issue so I will just say that he is hounded on his phone, his facebook account, and in person by girls.  As the biggest and arguably most athletic boy in his class it's amazing what I have seen girls text and facebook to him.  It's become a matter of great entertainment for us....but it's really not that funny.  I know it's only a matter of time before some girl, or guy (I don't control that either although I'll use girls because that seems to be his orientation),  becomes an object of affection for him.  Once that happens, probably sooner then later, all he will have to fall back on is his good relationship with me, and the guidance I can hopefully provide.  Maybe he'll wait until he gets married, or maybe he won't because he can't......it's natural, and powerful. 

What he doesn't have to be is disrespectful, what he doesn't have to be is irresponsible, and most certainly it doesn't have to be something that he hides or is ashamed of.  It's my job and my responsibility to walk him down that road, and I will.

I like the prospects for my son's future.....he's a great kid with many talents.  I consider a pothole filled with bad choices when it comes to sex to be one of the greatest obstacles in that future...but I also like his chances as long as he and I keep our relationship strong and he feels like he can confide in me.  I figure once I "forbid" him from doing something....especially something that is good and natural, his confidence in me as someone he can talk to erodes......I'm not interested in that.  I'm interested in him maturing as a person and an athlete with goals and dreams who's future remains bright.

Like X100. I know in that other thread I was jokingly referring to the fact that as my boys grow they occasionally appear almost human, but the truth it that the greatest part of parenting is when you see them mature as individuals. What you say here is exactly the truth.

This, exactly, this in every way.  Great post LB. 

x3.  Excellent post!

Just to pile on with some more thoughts...

One approach is never going to be best for every kid.  Take three different kids and raise them exactly the same, and you can get three completely different outcomes, but I do think there are certain approaches that tend to work more consistently than others if the end goal is raising an educated, well-adjusted, happy, responsible member of society.  IMO, emphasizing core values including honesty, respect for others, self confidence, independence, open communication, and a good work ethic will tip the odds in favor of a good outcome and away from a kid becoming a train wreck regardless of where any of us falls regarding a lot of the details discussed in this thread.

I also believe that blindly following a particular approach to raising your children and ignoring how they are developing as people is playing with fire.  Sometimes as parents we need to change tactics as our children develop, because what worked when they were 12 or 13 probably isn't going to work when they're 15 or 16.

 

I am still not understanding the statement "Maybe he'll wait until he gets married, or maybe he won't because he can't....." in this post everyone is raving about. Why couldn't he wait???

He could wait.  You're right.  It is a choice.

"Can't" as I understand LB's use here means his son is making the choice to not wait anymore because he has considered the options and has decided not to. Doesn't sound like LB's house has the wait until you're married policy, so it's just not applicable.

(I don't mean to speak for LB in any way, just explaining my interpretation and agreement with his post).

 

They way I read it was that the kid "can't" because girls are throwing themselves at him. Yes, at the end of the day it is a choice, but as much as the kid may want to refrain he may become unable to resist their womanly wiles.

It will be up to him, Kate...... hopefully our relationship is still such that he comes to me and we discuss it.  I'll give him every angle as I see it and he can give me his...and then I'll send him on his way.

I don't know where the "can't" may come from...... but judging from the way some of these girls look.... it ain't gonna be easy on the boy. Laughing

2013-08-19 4:02 PM
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Though I don't have any kids and so my opinion doesn't count, I can tell you what DIDN'T work for me when I was growing up...

My parents doing nothing but telling me that sex/sexual contact/boys in general were bad and/or forbidden.  I remember distinctly at about 8 years old my mom pulling me into the bedroom and telling me to "stay away from boys because all they want to do is have SEX with you!".  Um... okay... but what the heck is sex? She wouldn't tell me and just said that I'd find out later.  My parents then decided to leave it up to the school to fulfill my education when it came to all things sex-related.  Not such a great plan on their part.

Having them essentially forbid me to stay away from boys really only had the opposite effect of making me want to find out what was so bad about them... Innocent




Lucky me.


2013-08-19 4:16 PM
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Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Though I don't have any kids and so my opinion doesn't count, I can tell you what DIDN'T work for me when I was growing up...

My parents doing nothing but telling me that sex/sexual contact/boys in general were bad and/or forbidden.  I remember distinctly at about 8 years old my mom pulling me into the bedroom and telling me to "stay away from boys because all they want to do is have SEX with you!".  Um... okay... but what the heck is sex? She wouldn't tell me and just said that I'd find out later.  My parents then decided to leave it up to the school to fulfill my education when it came to all things sex-related.  Not such a great plan on their part.

Having them essentially forbid me to stay away from boys really only had the opposite effect of making me want to find out what was so bad about them... Innocent

Lucky me.

Practice makes perfect? 

2013-08-19 4:27 PM
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Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Though I don't have any kids and so my opinion doesn't count, I can tell you what DIDN'T work for me when I was growing up...

My parents doing nothing but telling me that sex/sexual contact/boys in general were bad and/or forbidden.  I remember distinctly at about 8 years old my mom pulling me into the bedroom and telling me to "stay away from boys because all they want to do is have SEX with you!".  Um... okay... but what the heck is sex? She wouldn't tell me and just said that I'd find out later.  My parents then decided to leave it up to the school to fulfill my education when it came to all things sex-related.  Not such a great plan on their part.

Having them essentially forbid me to stay away from boys really only had the opposite effect of making me want to find out what was so bad about them... Innocent

Lucky me.

Practice makes perfect?  ;)

You two should go break some stuff;)
2013-08-19 4:29 PM
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Originally posted by mr2tony
Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Though I don't have any kids and so my opinion doesn't count, I can tell you what DIDN'T work for me when I was growing up...

My parents doing nothing but telling me that sex/sexual contact/boys in general were bad and/or forbidden.  I remember distinctly at about 8 years old my mom pulling me into the bedroom and telling me to "stay away from boys because all they want to do is have SEX with you!".  Um... okay... but what the heck is sex? She wouldn't tell me and just said that I'd find out later.  My parents then decided to leave it up to the school to fulfill my education when it came to all things sex-related.  Not such a great plan on their part.

Having them essentially forbid me to stay away from boys really only had the opposite effect of making me want to find out what was so bad about them... Innocent

Lucky me.

Practice makes perfect? 

You two should go break some stuff

We should!  But I don't think work would approve... 

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Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl
Originally posted by mr2tony
Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Though I don't have any kids and so my opinion doesn't count, I can tell you what DIDN'T work for me when I was growing up...

My parents doing nothing but telling me that sex/sexual contact/boys in general were bad and/or forbidden.  I remember distinctly at about 8 years old my mom pulling me into the bedroom and telling me to "stay away from boys because all they want to do is have SEX with you!".  Um... okay... but what the heck is sex? She wouldn't tell me and just said that I'd find out later.  My parents then decided to leave it up to the school to fulfill my education when it came to all things sex-related.  Not such a great plan on their part.

Having them essentially forbid me to stay away from boys really only had the opposite effect of making me want to find out what was so bad about them... Innocent

Lucky me.

Practice makes perfect? 

You two should go break some stuff

We should!  But I don't think work would approve... 




If they didn't want their furniture broken, they should've been better at communicating when you were 8.
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Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl
Originally posted by mr2tony
Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Though I don't have any kids and so my opinion doesn't count, I can tell you what DIDN'T work for me when I was growing up...

My parents doing nothing but telling me that sex/sexual contact/boys in general were bad and/or forbidden.  I remember distinctly at about 8 years old my mom pulling me into the bedroom and telling me to "stay away from boys because all they want to do is have SEX with you!".  Um... okay... but what the heck is sex? She wouldn't tell me and just said that I'd find out later.  My parents then decided to leave it up to the school to fulfill my education when it came to all things sex-related.  Not such a great plan on their part.

Having them essentially forbid me to stay away from boys really only had the opposite effect of making me want to find out what was so bad about them... Innocent

Lucky me.

Practice makes perfect?  ;)

You two should go break some stuff;)

We should!  But I don't think work would approve...  ;)

If they didn't want their furniture broken, they should've been better at communicating when you were 8.
And beat you less. Or  more. Or something.


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I hope that your time with Tony can finally teach what is so bad about boys. If anyone can do it, he can!

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2013-08-19 5:39 PM
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Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Though I don't have any kids and so my opinion doesn't count, I can tell you what DIDN'T work for me when I was growing up...

My parents doing nothing but telling me that sex/sexual contact/boys in general were bad and/or forbidden.  I remember distinctly at about 8 years old my mom pulling me into the bedroom and telling me to "stay away from boys because all they want to do is have SEX with you!".  Um... okay... but what the heck is sex? She wouldn't tell me and just said that I'd find out later.  My parents then decided to leave it up to the school to fulfill my education when it came to all things sex-related.  Not such a great plan on their part.

Having them essentially forbid me to stay away from boys really only had the opposite effect of making me want to find out what was so bad about them... Innocent

I think the fact that you were prolly really cute and prolly had them buzzing around you like bee's maybe might have had a bit of influence too?

I think teens should have a lot of experiences socially.. with both boys and girls. I want my son to enjoy his teen years, definitely.

Providing guidelines for teen conduct, doesn't mean that one has to attempt to alienate the opposite sex..

I had a lot of friends in high school. I dated a lot of boys. I kept my distance sexually.  I had some friends who gravitated that way though.. and they got themselves into some really bad situations with guys who hurt them a lot... I had a close friend who was in a long term relationship with a guy.. and it was also physical. She was on birth control but still got pregnant. She ended up getting an abortion and the loving bf dumped her. I'll never forget how emotionally scared she was by the experience. I had another friend that this happened to. She left school to have the baby and then put it up for adoption. I can't imagine how that felt. And for what? a few moments.. of.. bodily function. 

2013-08-19 5:46 PM
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Originally posted by Teejaay

Here is how it played out 30 minutes ago ... in real life. So just for fun I thought I'd start a dialogue with my 17 year old, very dry humored and sarcastic, daughter who was sitting on the couch next to me.

(I would say I have the same thoughts on all of this as Switch.  I have always been open, honest and approachable when it's come to questions over the years about sex and dating and marriage and divorce and addiction, etc.  She asked .. I answered.
Me:  Hey, honey.  I want you to know that I hope you have awesome consensual sex.
Her:  I'm not having sex.  I'm going to work.
Me:  I know that .. but when you do have sex .. I hope it's awesome.
Her:  I haven't met anyone I want to have sex with.  Not at school or work or at a truck stop. The is no sex to have.
Me:  I understand .. but when you do have sex .. I hope it's awesome.
Her:  I'd rather have sex with the cats than anyone right now.  I'm too busy with school and work for relationships and drama.
Me:  That would be a bad idea .. they cats cannot give consent.  Therefore it would not be awesome for them .. there are laws.
Her:  Are you having a seizure? I have to go to work

And that was that.

Teejaay, you and your daughter win awesome of the day award! PURE WIN!

BTW, please tell your daughter, thank you. "Are you having a seizure?" is going to get worked into my repertoire at regular intervals.

2013-08-19 5:58 PM
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Originally posted by Teejaay

Here is how it played out 30 minutes ago ... in real life. So just for fun I thought I'd start a dialogue with my 17 year old, very dry humored and sarcastic, daughter who was sitting on the couch next to me.

(I would say I have the same thoughts on all of this as Switch.  I have always been open, honest and approachable when it's come to questions over the years about sex and dating and marriage and divorce and addiction, etc.  She asked .. I answered.
Me:  Hey, honey.  I want you to know that I hope you have awesome consensual sex.
Her:  I'm not having sex.  I'm going to work.
Me:  I know that .. but when you do have sex .. I hope it's awesome.
Her:  I haven't met anyone I want to have sex with.  Not at school or work or at a truck stop. There is no sex to have.
Me:  I understand .. but when you do have sex .. I hope it's awesome.
Her:  I'd rather have sex with the cats than anyone right now.  I'm too busy with school and work for relationships and drama.
Me:  That would be a bad idea .. they cats cannot give consent.  Therefore it would not be awesome for them .. there are laws.
Her:  Are you having a seizure? I have to go to work

And that was that.

I really like the sound of your daughter's sarcastic sense of humor and indifference to sex.  Can we introduce her to my son? Laughing



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If some teenage boy got one of your teenage daughter's pregnant, or gave her and std.. I doubt any of you dads would be non judgmental of his actions.

Peace out, from me on this thread.



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2013-08-19 6:50 PM
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Originally posted by KateTri1

If some teenage boy got one of your teenage daughter's pregnant, or gave her and std.. I doubt any of you dads would be non judgmental of his actions.

Peace out, from me on this thread. :)

Kate, I'm sorry you're out of this conversation, but I understand. I would just implore you to think about your last post and how it absolves, and by doing so takes all power away from, the girl for responsiblity for her own choices and reproductive health. In 2013, if we are talking about consensual sex, if a girl gets an STD or gets pregnant, she is responsible for that. Peace.
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Originally posted by KateTri1

If some teenage boy got one of your teenage daughter's pregnant, or gave her and std.. I doubt any of you dads would be non judgmental of his actions.

Peace out, from me on this thread.

Kate, I'm sorry you're out of this conversation, but I understand. I would just implore you to think about your last post and how it absolves, and by doing so takes all power away from, the girl for responsiblity for her own choices and reproductive health. In 2013, if we are talking about consensual sex, if a girl gets an STD or gets pregnant, she is responsible for that. Peace.


Not exactly, a large percentage of them are taken care of with my tax dollars.

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2013-08-19 7:09 PM
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Originally posted by KateTri1

If some teenage boy got one of your teenage daughter's pregnant, or gave her and std.. I doubt any of you dads would be non judgmental of his actions.

Peace out, from me on this thread.

Kate, I'm sorry you're out of this conversation, but I understand. I would just implore you to think about your last post and how it absolves, and by doing so takes all power away from, the girl for responsiblity for her own choices and reproductive health. In 2013, if we are talking about consensual sex, if a girl gets an STD or gets pregnant, she is responsible for that. Peace.

truth about that Switch.. girls are just as responsible for their actions..  But I don't have a girl, just a boy. My own personal experience has been that more sexual behavior has been initiated by boys though. They generally exert more pressure.. They have a higher sex drive.

When I was a teen I loved being noticed, wanted.. and I guess one be tempted to dress and act in a way that would make a boy interested. 

That doesn't mean that the average teen is mature enough to handle those kinds of pressures and responsibilities. 

Even though I've opened my mouth a lot on this thread, I've read every response and took them to heart. There are a lot of caring parents on BT. 

ok.. real thread "peace out". 

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