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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Started a running routine this evening. Got 2 miles in non stop. Good start for not having run in over a month. My first week plan looks like this: Monday, Wednesday, Friday - 2 mile run Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday - Cross train (swim, bike, weights). Week 2 will increase mileage to 3 miles 3x week. I'll keep building from there. A question I have is what (if any) distance goal should I reach for in week 4 for my long run? Thanks. Hope all are having a great day. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() T1 rider - 2012-01-10 12:37 AM Started a running routine this evening. Got 2 miles in non stop. Good start for not having run in over a month. My first week plan looks like this: Monday, Wednesday, Friday - 2 mile run Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday - Cross train (swim, bike, weights). Week 2 will increase mileage to 3 miles 3x week. I'll keep building from there. A question I have is what (if any) distance goal should I reach for in week 4 for my long run? Thanks. Hope all are having a great day. hey Patrick -conventional wisdom will tell you that you should step up your long run mileage by. O more than 10% each week with a step back down in mileage every 3~4 weeks. However I have found that for me it is better to not have distance goals when training for endurance running. Instead, I would suggest you might try out having time goals instead (running for x amount of minutes), especially when doing early acclimatization runs. In fact the only runs I ever do for distance are speed work on the track and the occasional "step up" run, but even those are more often done by time interval. Mentally what this does for me is it keeps me focused on the efforts I should be running instead of always playing "beat the clock" by covering x distance faster than the last time. Also, when I run for distance I always tend to run the same known courses (again, playing beat the clock) and that running for time is really conducive to exploring new routes. I think most of us are better off focusing on time on our feet, not distance covered when it comes to the long run. FWIW, I believe the same is true for the long bike as well. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() daisymouse - 2012-01-09 11:59 PM I found dandelion root tea fantastic for water retention when I was pregnant - would make it the night before and drink it first thing in the morning. Disgusting but effective. Swimming; I have a tendency to do long slow swims when I'm on my own so like doing swim squads to push me along. We normally do a warm-up of about 500m, drills and then an aerobic set against the clock, we usually do 2.5-3km i a one hour session. I haven't been for a while and won't be able to go January as it's school hols. Another day, I do a squad with a different coach which is a technique session, so lots of drills but also lots of sets with us stroking to "wetronomes" where we have beepers in our swim caps. Everyone has their own cadence and we vary it to push us further or support a better stroke. It's great fun, except when the synchronised swimmers are training and we have to listen to their bizzare music. I love this coach (he swam the English Channel this year), I had a video analysis with him and it was fantastic. I could see exactly what I was doing wrong and he gave me drills on how to improve my catch and body position. None of this was picked up by the other coach who just keeps trying to make me glide more, but her session is at a really convenient time and I like the other swimmers there so I just really use it as an aerobic session. Then I have a third coach (don't know how sensible all this different input is but it works for me at the moment). This is an OWSwimming session down at our local river, where a lot of triathlons and swimming races are held. We do lots of sighting, how to cope with different conditions, swimming in a group, drafting etc. It's exhausting as I not confident in the river - visibility is poor and there is a lot of wildlife, including a pod of dolphins which are always lovely to see. Our coach is a 6 time world champion marathon swimmer and she is a hoot. I love swimming with this group. I was there this morning and we were going round bouys different ways, clockwise and couter-clockwise and practising swim head-on into the waves; I got smacked in the face a couple of times and swallowed some water. No major panic attacks this week even though there were jellyfish everywhere so I'm making progress :-) It's fantastic that you are both back it the water and enjoying it after surgery/injuries and I hope you continue to progress well. Touch rugby last night was brutal - hot and we had no girl subs but we only lost by one try which we were thrilled with. I felt like I'd been flogged though. I was really pleased to pull up so well this morning - I thought I might be sore after such a tough workout. It's sprint training really but with a bit of ball chucking thrown in. Hope you all have a great Tuesday Gwen x Sensible?!?!?! Your schedule sounds AWESOME to me! Yeah, if you want to get a few seconds faster in the 200 free in a pool, there might be a better way to do it, but swimming open water well in a tri or other endurance event requires variability and the ability to respond to a changing variety of conditions. Sounds to me like you have the dream set-up, Gwen!!! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm off to try a new yoga/pilates/kettle bell studio today (yoga), I got a groupon for one month unlimited for $29. Have any of you tried kettlebell? I have not, but I am eager to try new yoga and get back to doing some mat pilates - nothing better for the core. Seem to have survived my run/walk from yesterday ok. Another one tomorrow. For long run advice, when I was a marathon/ultra coach, we sometimes went longer than 10% increase, but only at LSD pace. And, shorter runs during the week. Just one long run per weekend. We never increased too much at one time, but in early days, adding a mile a week worked ok with adequate rest and recovery. Once over 10 miles, the 10% rule became more the way to go. For swimming, our YMCAs all have (FREE) masters swim programs, so when I need to bump that up I try their workouts, but in general I try to go with a plan, or else I will just get into a nice slow swim groove all day. I am SO LUCKY here because we have a guy, named Lucky, who opens his lake house for an OWS every day except Sunday! It's a 1K crossing, and you can do as many crossings as you can fit in. Often the triathletes will run or bike after to get a brick/tri workout. I am so picky tho', I only go when it's between a certain temp range, usually April-June. Hope everyone has a great day! My other goal today is to get my trainer back from my friend who borrowed it for HIM training, so I can get some extra time in the saddle. AND I almost forgot the best part - Tuesday is my weigh in day, and I am down THREE POUNDS!!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() annabananamc - 2012-01-10 9:09 AMI'm off to try a new yoga/pilates/kettle bell studio today (yoga), I got a groupon for one month unlimited for $29. Have any of you tried kettlebell? I have not, but I am eager to try new yoga and get back to doing some mat pilates - nothing better for the core.Seem to have survived my run/walk from yesterday ok. Another one tomorrow.For long run advice, when I was a marathon/ultra coach, we sometimes went longer than 10% increase, but only at LSD pace. And, shorter runs during the week. Just one long run per weekend. We never increased too much at one time, but in early days, adding a mile a week worked ok with adequate rest and recovery. Once over 10 miles, the 10% rule became more the way to go.For swimming, our YMCAs all have (FREE) masters swim programs, so when I need to bump that up I try their workouts, but in general I try to go with a plan, or else I will just get into a nice slow swim groove all day. I am SO LUCKY here because we have a guy, named Lucky, who opens his lake house for an OWS every day except Sunday! It's a 1K crossing, and you can do as many crossings as you can fit in. Often the triathletes will run or bike after to get a brick/tri workout. I am so picky tho', I only go when it's between a certain temp range, usually April-June.Hope everyone has a great day! My other goal today is to get my trainer back from my friend who borrowed it for HIM training, so I can get some extra time in the saddle.AND I almost forgot the best part - Tuesday is my weigh in day, and I am down THREE POUNDS!!! Ann - during my strength phase I have incorporated kettle bells, medicine ball, and Pilates into my routine a couple of times per week. I have proven to be particularly fragile on the run over the years and I feel this type of strength work has helped significantly. Don't overdo it - the soreness does go away. Over time you can feel the effects of the workout but you won't be sore at all. Well, much anyway. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TankBoy - 2012-01-10 5:13 AM T1 rider - 2012-01-10 12:37 AM Started a running routine this evening. Got 2 miles in non stop. Good start for not having run in over a month. My first week plan looks like this: Monday, Wednesday, Friday - 2 mile run Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday - Cross train (swim, bike, weights). Week 2 will increase mileage to 3 miles 3x week. I'll keep building from there. A question I have is what (if any) distance goal should I reach for in week 4 for my long run? Thanks. Hope all are having a great day. hey Patrick -conventional wisdom will tell you that you should step up your long run mileage by. O more than 10% each week with a step back down in mileage every 3~4 weeks. However I have found that for me it is better to not have distance goals when training for endurance running. Instead, I would suggest you might try out having time goals instead (running for x amount of minutes), especially when doing early acclimatization runs. In fact the only runs I ever do for distance are speed work on the track and the occasional "step up" run, but even those are more often done by time interval. Mentally what this does for me is it keeps me focused on the efforts I should be running instead of always playing "beat the clock" by covering x distance faster than the last time. Also, when I run for distance I always tend to run the same known courses (again, playing beat the clock) and that running for time is really conducive to exploring new routes. I think most of us are better off focusing on time on our feet, not distance covered when it comes to the long run. FWIW, I believe the same is true for the long bike as well. I agree. I run by time, as well. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ann and Gwen....you two are lucky to be able to do so many open water swims. I don't get that luxury around here. In one lagoon, you have to fight the tide and choppy conditions which makes a safety boat a necessity. In the other lagoon, people are getting bit by otters! Sheesh!!! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks for the feedback! I like the time idea especially seeing as my time is somewhat limited most days. However, most plans I have found in regards to mary/1/2 mary are distance based. I suppose it is good to have a knowledge of general pace in order to put the 2 factors together. That little fella is a Saw Whet owl. Our group catches, bands and releases them every year as they migrate through. One of the smallest owls. Doesn't look to happy in that pic! Edited by T1 rider 2012-01-10 10:23 AM (sawhet compr.jpg) Attachments ---------------- sawhet compr.jpg (72KB - 10 downloads) |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() owl_girl - 2012-01-09 10:04 AM Ann and Gwen....you two are lucky to be able to do so many open water swims. I don't get that luxury around here. In one lagoon, you have to fight the tide and choppy conditions which makes a safety boat a necessity. In the other lagoon, people are getting bit by otters! Sheesh!!!
Agreed - I really like OWS and struggle with getting to/into the pool. It's really hard to be motivated to strip down to a swim suit when you have worn a down coat, scarf, hat, gloves, boots, etc just to get to the pool. I think I'm going to try to get into the open water sooner than last year (wasn't really warm enough until mid June) due to a mid June race! Looks like wetsuit swimming will be in order. I really like Kathy's idea of swimming fast, focusing on form and going fast instead of distance. I have been swimming for distance the last couple of years and now I'm really good at going slow. About the running for time vs. distance: For me, i have to run by distance, mostly so I know I can cover the distance because my pace is pretty slow. If I followed a plan for my previous half marathons and ran only by time, the farthest I would have run would have been 10 miles. Mentally, I need to have the "I've run this distance before" card in my back pocket during the race. |
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New user![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi jennifer. I so agree with you. Im a bit of a slow coach, and i need to know i can actually finish whatever race i have entered. Also most importantly i get a huge buzz out of watching my times coming down for a set distance, feelsmlike im giving myself anpresent in that by going faster i gain a bit more time back formother parts of life.Hope you all get to the top of your personnal mountains today.Lorna |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() owl_girl - 2012-01-09 3:26 PM Since I have swimming issues, can we talk swimming? What does everyone do in the pool? I almost always have to begin with some 50's and 100's to get into a rhythm. My main set generally consists of 250's or 500's or 750's. I try (try is the operative word) to do a long swim of at least 1000 yards once per week. Since I dislocated my ankle about 4 weeks ago, I have not done the long swim. I need some advice. I'm at a swimming standstill at the moment. I came from a swimming background so my swim was always stronger than my bike and run. Now I've gotten to the point where my swim in my weak point. Right now I'm trying to increase my swim volume (I've has my stroke analyzed a few times -- you can see the video here) but I think the biggest thing for me is just swimming more. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() itsallrelative_Maine - 2012-01-10 11:19 AM About the running for time vs. distance: For me, i have to run by distance, mostly so I know I can cover the distance because my pace is pretty slow. If I followed a plan for my previous half marathons and ran only by time, the farthest I would have run would have been 10 miles. Mentally, I need to have the "I've run this distance before" card in my back pocket during the race. I think that's a really interesting thought. I do all of my running by time. Before Ironman Florida, my longest run was 1:45 (well short of a marathon). A big part of me just had to believe I was ready to run all 26.2 miles without having actually covered the distance in training. I ended up having a really good run at Florida but I can understand how hard it is to race without having done a full dress rehersal before hand.
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() T1 rider - 2012-01-10 8:13 AM Thanks for the feedback! I like the time idea especially seeing as my time is somewhat limited most days. However, most plans I have found in regards to mary/1/2 mary are distance based. I suppose it is good to have a knowledge of general pace in order to put the 2 factors together. That little fella is a Saw Whet owl. Our group catches, bands and releases them every year as they migrate through. One of the smallest owls. Doesn't look to happy in that pic! Awe...little saw whet.....so cute! |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Got my brick workout done! Whew! Thought it wasn't going to happen due to my little guy waking up and then promptly having a temper tantrum for an hour. I think he's going through a growth spurt. All of his pants are suddenly too short. Anyway, the brick workout went great! I did 55 minutes on the Spin bike and 35 minutes on the treadmill while Mr. Tantrum cooled his jets in gym childcare. High fives to all the mommies and daddies out there that make tri training and family life work together! |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KathyG - 2012-01-09 1:24 AM Steffi, Amazing how triathlon has grown in Iceland. One of the issues you have is no ows available so all your tris in Iceland are in pools, right? You should share with the group how the swims work as it is very different than here in US. I hope your experience with a coach is positive. Impressive to set PBs last year despite few obstacles. When you lost weight what was your typical daily food intake look like? Good luck with your weight loss! The Abu Dhabi race sounds like it will be a blast. It is on my dream race list.
Yes we do hardly any OWS here in Iceland except for the summer where we can swim in the ocean. Temps go as high as about 14C/56F and most people swim without a wetsuit! I don't! This year we have planned 1-2 Mini-sprint Tris (very low key on a summer night eve) where we will swim in the ocean. This will be interesting! All races we do here are pool swims and we have up to 10 people in one lane if it is a 50m pool and up to 5 if it is a 25m pool. You get used to it and some races work better than other of getting some space or finding someone to draft. I am still loosing weight and I am back down to about 1100 calories a day right now. This will increase slightly when I increase my workouts but for now I have the OK from my coach to keep them that low but closely monitor my energy levels. I eat very clean and my body gets everything it needs for now. Loosing weight is top priority for now and exercise comes second. This will change then when the race season is getting closer.... We can't wait for Abu Dhabi! It's been a dream ever since they had the first race in 2010 and we thought about going last year but the fact that it is very hot there and middle of winter for us and the fact that we would be coming off the bike trainer for a 100K race kind of scared us off until this year. It will be interesting for sure. We are both signed up for the short distance which is 1500m swim, 100K bike and 10K run and I just found out today that I cannot change my entry to the sprint distance (half the distance of the above) which really sucks. I will evaluate with my coach after 4 weeks if that distance would be possible without risking injury or not and if he thinks its not a good idea I will sign up for the sprint then. Just loose some money but not getting injured again is more important! |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi Everyone, I have been so busy the last 2 days I hardly had time to even read here. First 2 days in the office after 4 weeks away so you can imagine how much there is to do. I also just found out I will only have this week in the office and then I am flying the rest of the month followed by a 4 day training course in Germany so I have a ton to do over the next 3 days. But the flying might (might as it is not 100% confirmed yet) include a trip to Cuba via Canada....that will be something new for me and I am really looking forward to it. Did my first run today in 9 weeks and I can still run 30 min straight which really surprised me. It was definitely not fast but I could do it Had to do it on the treadmill as we have a winter snow storm here today! NO FUN!! Last night I spent 2 hours on completing the paperwork for my new triathlon coach. It's incredible how many information he needs from me and it was actually kind of fun to answer some of the questions. It really got me thinking! I also just added all of you to my friends list and I promise inspires will come soon! |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KathyG - 2012-01-09 11:49 AM Steffi: Exciting to be back on the bike. Hope professional fit and new saddle feels good. Time off takes a bit of time to feel back to normal. Do you put your Ceepo bike on the trainer? She has a hot tri bike!!! I just found this so I thought I better answer I love love love the new saddle (although I am a bit sore on my sit bones today) and I love the way the bike feels. I was able to be in aero without much effort and without getting any shoulder/neck pain. And it can only get better! And yes I only use the Tri-Bike on the trainer. I need to get used to sitting on that! OH, btw I don't have a Ceepo but an Argon 18 (E-112). But a Ceepo sure is pretty too but not as pretty as my bike |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Steffi, Congrats on your 30 minute run today Do you struggle with training when you are flying a lot? Sounds like your coach wants to know a lot about you to get to know you better. Is your husband using the same coach? I like the thought of your coach of waiting to see if you should change distances and register for sprint later. Other option might be to do the longer swim and bike if those come back quicker and stop after the bike. |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2012-01-09 2:16 PM Question for everyone -- I'm working to improve my body composition so I closely watch what I eat and weigh myself daily. Right now I'm dealing with a 4-6 lbs per week fluctuation because of water retention levels. I know its not "real" weight but its still frustrating -- any ideas on how to retain less water? I had a Personal Trainer in October and he told me to take this twice a day to start with and now I am still taking it in the morning: http://www.udoschoice.co.uk/udos_choice_beyond_greens I never had any water retention issues since then! I also drink green tea twice a day which helps as well. They sell it at Amazon in the US! And I assume you are already watching your sodium intake, right? |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KathyG - 2012-01-10 11:01 PM Steffi, Congrats on your 30 minute run today Do you struggle with training when you are flying a lot? Sounds like your coach wants to know a lot about you to get to know you better. Is your husband using the same coach? I like the thought of your coach of waiting to see if you should change distances and register for sprint later. Other option might be to do the longer swim and bike if those come back quicker and stop after the bike. Thanks Flying sometimes makes things complicated because if I have a layover somewhere I usually can only run (or use the stationary bike in the hotel gym which I usually choose NOT to do as I rather not bike then go on that My husband has a different coach (he actually uses Jorge (who made the bike program here on BT) but I went with a different one for various reasons. The coach told me right away the distance I am signed up for is not wise and we should go with the shorter one but at that point we did not know that I can´t change the entry without signing up new. I could NOT stop after the bike. No way! If I start then I finish.... |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KathyG - 2012-01-09 3:02 AM Today we went Duckpin bowling. Smaller pins and ball without holes the size of softball. Kids and Kevin played the first game and I watched. Second game I decided I would try it not sure how I could really bowl. I crutched up to the line, Kevin took my right crutch, while I kept left crutch under my arm, squatted on my right leg while putting bad leg slightly ahead of body and swung the ball. I could do it. I'd stand on the line with one crutch while Kevin would get another ball and I might move zig zag my foot to move right or left and he'd put the ball in my hand that was behind my back and I'd throw next ball. Duckpin you get three tries per frame. To get a spare you need to get all 10 pins down in the 2nd ball. Hard part is when bowling you squat down on leg opposite of arm you use for ball. So I should squat on left leg and and use my right arm. I what I did was squat with my right leg and swung with right arm which made it bit more difficult. My kids were astonished that I started out 3 out of 5 frames with spares or strikes and I had higher score then they even on crutches. It was quite fun. This sounds like lots of fun! I am glad you tried it and it worked. And way to go for beating your kids even on crutches |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() owl_girl - 2012-01-09 4:15 AM The first time trial is on the first Saturday in March. We'll see what this new tri bike can do! I've never raced with fancy wheels or helmet. Apparently, the record is held by a time trial queen. That time is going DOWN! I just LOVE that attitude! You go for it Girl!! |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sorry I only made it to page 6 but will keep catching up tomorrow (of course you all probably write 2-3 more pages while I sleep making it even harder lol). |
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