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 2014-03-20 7:52 AM in reply to: popsracer |
Expert  4929     Middle River, Maryland Silver member |  Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challengeOriginally posted by popsracer Mike, what race are you doing to try to qualify for AGN? Rock Hall International (MD)...it's a USAT Regional Qualifier so the top 3rd of each AG qualify. I think we were talking about this in one of the other challenges (Daniels? Weakness?)...weren't you considering coming to this one? |
| 2014-03-20 11:33 AM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Pro 6520  Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Originally posted by popsracer Mike, what race are you doing to try to qualify for AGN? Rock Hall International (MD)...it's a USAT Regional Qualifier so the top 3rd of each AG qualify. I think we were talking about this in one of the other challenges (Daniels? Weakness?)...weren't you considering coming to this one? I was looking for a special qualifier because I doubt I am going to be top 10% unless the field is very, very weak which in my age group is doubtful. I'd have to go sub 2:30 based on last year's results. I think I'm close especially given the course. I see it's very flat but is wind an issue there? I also see they have a partcipant's list so could do some Athlinks stalking to maybe get an idea of depth of current field. |
| 2014-03-20 1:25 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by popsracer Steve, there's a race in Iowa in early June you might want to check out. "Accel" They have the shortest transition ever. Course is flat. Weather might be the only potential sucky part. Here's a link to last year's results. http://www.truetimeracing.com/results.php?id=3137Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Originally posted by popsracer Mike, what race are you doing to try to qualify for AGN? Rock Hall International (MD)...it's a USAT Regional Qualifier so the top 3rd of each AG qualify. I think we were talking about this in one of the other challenges (Daniels? Weakness?)...weren't you considering coming to this one? I was looking for a special qualifier because I doubt I am going to be top 10% unless the field is very, very weak which in my age group is doubtful. I'd have to go sub 2:30 based on last year's results. I think I'm close especially given the course. I see it's very flat but is wind an issue there? I also see they have a partcipant's list so could do some Athlinks stalking to maybe get an idea of depth of current field. |
| 2014-03-20 1:53 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Expert 4929 Middle River, Maryland Silver member | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Originally posted by popsracer Mike, what race are you doing to try to qualify for AGN? Rock Hall International (MD)...it's a USAT Regional Qualifier so the top 3rd of each AG qualify. I think we were talking about this in one of the other challenges (Daniels? Weakness?)...weren't you considering coming to this one? I was looking for a special qualifier because I doubt I am going to be top 10% unless the field is very, very weak which in my age group is doubtful. I'd have to go sub 2:30 based on last year's results. I think I'm close especially given the course. I see it's very flat but is wind an issue there? I also see they have a partcipant's list so could do some Athlinks stalking to maybe get an idea of depth of current field. Wind can be an issue but usually that early in the morning it's not too bad that time of year. It's one week before Eagleman, and more or less the same terrain (pancake flat), but Rock Hall has a little more in the way of wind suppression as opposed to the tidal marshes around Eagleman. |
| 2014-03-20 1:54 PM in reply to: switch |
Expert 4929 Middle River, Maryland Silver member | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Perfect. Me too. See you at the pool!So I walked out to the car today to drive to the pool for a quick swim session at lunch today, and my car battery is D-E-A-D. You gotta be kidding me. I went for a 4 mile run instead. At this rate, I'm going to have to swim every day the rest of the week to make n+1 ETA: That was pretty callous of me. I'm sorry your battery died. That sucks. PS See your butt at the pool Consider it done. Got in about 1K yards exactly (900 meters) as a recovery swim after my tempo run. |
| 2014-03-20 1:58 PM in reply to: switch |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer Steve, there's a race in Iowa in early June you might want to check out. "Accel" They have the shortest transition ever. Course is flat. Weather might be the only potential sucky part. Here's a link to last year's results. http://www.truetimeracing.com/results.php?id=3137Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Originally posted by popsracer Mike, what race are you doing to try to qualify for AGN? Rock Hall International (MD)...it's a USAT Regional Qualifier so the top 3rd of each AG qualify. I think we were talking about this in one of the other challenges (Daniels? Weakness?)...weren't you considering coming to this one? I was looking for a special qualifier because I doubt I am going to be top 10% unless the field is very, very weak which in my age group is doubtful. I'd have to go sub 2:30 based on last year's results. I think I'm close especially given the course. I see it's very flat but is wind an issue there? I also see they have a partcipant's list so could do some Athlinks stalking to maybe get an idea of depth of current field. Thanks Elisa. That happens to be the busiest weekend of the year. I already have to pick between Boise 70.3, another great local Oly, and a marathon that I want to run all scheduled on the same day. Besides, looks like you got some pretty fast old guys in Iowa. I'm still crossing my fingers for Kona lottery and if I get picked everything changes in a heartbeat. |
| 2014-03-20 2:47 PM in reply to: switch |
| 324 | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge swim #2 this week; yesterday: My swim coach/teacher was briefly in town so met up for a swim (not a lesson); this is more organized then I usually am! She feels you should always have some sprint in a session. plus she says my stroke and breathing are better when I sprint. figures. warm up- 150 m did 3X (25 fingertip drill, 25 "perfect stroke") 4X build each 25 Speed work: 150 smooth 25 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 50 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 75 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 100 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 4X of kick 25, breast 25, rest 50 more for taping. |
| 2014-03-20 2:58 PM in reply to: el penguino |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by el penguino swim #2 this week; yesterday: My swim coach/teacher was briefly in town so met up for a swim (not a lesson); this is more organized then I usually am! She feels you should always have some sprint in a session. plus she says my stroke and breathing are better when I sprint. figures. warm up- 150 m did 3X (25 fingertip drill, 25 "perfect stroke") 4X build each 25 Speed work: 150 smooth 25 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 50 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 75 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 100 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 4X of kick 25, breast 25, rest 50 more for taping. That sounds like a great workout. I have a very hard time with speed focused sessions. I have a hard time gauging my speed and holding back enough that I am not gassed before finishing the workout. I like the easy/recovery swims between hard efforts. Maybe that would help. I am trying to talk myself into taking a late lunch and getting my +1 swim in today. I know what you all would say so I better get moving. |
| 2014-03-20 3:02 PM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Yeah, buddy!Originally posted by switch Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Perfect. Me too. See you at the pool!So I walked out to the car today to drive to the pool for a quick swim session at lunch today, and my car battery is D-E-A-D. You gotta be kidding me. I went for a 4 mile run instead. At this rate, I'm going to have to swim every day the rest of the week to make n+1 ETA: That was pretty callous of me. I'm sorry your battery died. That sucks. PS See your butt at the pool :) Consider it done. Got in about 1K yards exactly (900 meters) as a recovery swim after my tempo run. I did my first morning swim since last race season this morning. A little bit brutal, but done.
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| 2014-03-20 3:04 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by popsracer Popular weekend, huh? Old? Stop that.Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer Steve, there's a race in Iowa in early June you might want to check out. "Accel" They have the shortest transition ever. Course is flat. Weather might be the only potential sucky part. Here's a link to last year's results. http://www.truetimeracing.com/results.php?id=3137Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Originally posted by popsracer Mike, what race are you doing to try to qualify for AGN? Rock Hall International (MD)...it's a USAT Regional Qualifier so the top 3rd of each AG qualify. I think we were talking about this in one of the other challenges (Daniels? Weakness?)...weren't you considering coming to this one? I was looking for a special qualifier because I doubt I am going to be top 10% unless the field is very, very weak which in my age group is doubtful. I'd have to go sub 2:30 based on last year's results. I think I'm close especially given the course. I see it's very flat but is wind an issue there? I also see they have a partcipant's list so could do some Athlinks stalking to maybe get an idea of depth of current field. Thanks Elisa. That happens to be the busiest weekend of the year. I already have to pick between Boise 70.3, another great local Oly, and a marathon that I want to run all scheduled on the same day. Besides, looks like you got some pretty fast old guys in Iowa. I'm still crossing my fingers for Kona lottery and if I get picked everything changes in a heartbeat. I missed that you had entered the lottery?!?! When do you find out?
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| 2014-03-20 3:06 PM in reply to: el penguino |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by el penguino swim #2 this week; yesterday: My swim coach/teacher was briefly in town so met up for a swim (not a lesson); this is more organized then I usually am! She feels you should always have some sprint in a session. plus she says my stroke and breathing are better when I sprint. figures. warm up- 150 m did 3X (25 fingertip drill, 25 "perfect stroke") 4X build each 25 Speed work: 150 smooth 25 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 50 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 75 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 100 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 4X of kick 25, breast 25, rest 50 more for taping. Yeah, Nancy! That does look like a good (hard) session. I really like it that people are sharing their sets. Lots of good ideas :) |
| 2014-03-20 4:55 PM in reply to: switch |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer Popular weekend, huh? Old? Stop that.Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer Steve, there's a race in Iowa in early June you might want to check out. "Accel" They have the shortest transition ever. Course is flat. Weather might be the only potential sucky part. Here's a link to last year's results. http://www.truetimeracing.com/results.php?id=3137Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Originally posted by popsracer Mike, what race are you doing to try to qualify for AGN? Rock Hall International (MD)...it's a USAT Regional Qualifier so the top 3rd of each AG qualify. I think we were talking about this in one of the other challenges (Daniels? Weakness?)...weren't you considering coming to this one? I was looking for a special qualifier because I doubt I am going to be top 10% unless the field is very, very weak which in my age group is doubtful. I'd have to go sub 2:30 based on last year's results. I think I'm close especially given the course. I see it's very flat but is wind an issue there? I also see they have a partcipant's list so could do some Athlinks stalking to maybe get an idea of depth of current field. Thanks Elisa. That happens to be the busiest weekend of the year. I already have to pick between Boise 70.3, another great local Oly, and a marathon that I want to run all scheduled on the same day. Besides, looks like you got some pretty fast old guys in Iowa. I'm still crossing my fingers for Kona lottery and if I get picked everything changes in a heartbeat. I missed that you had entered the lottery?!?! When do you find out?
Lottery winners are announced April 15th. Getting to Kona anyway I can and running Boston are at the top of my bucket list. Oh, and I just got back from +1 swim. Yay!! Got an eight mile run this evening then I think I'll need a beer or two. Seems like Friday today. |
| 2014-03-20 6:09 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by popsracer OK, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you on the 15th then. That would be for Kona this year, right? Not 2015?Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer Popular weekend, huh? Old? Stop that.Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer Steve, there's a race in Iowa in early June you might want to check out. "Accel" They have the shortest transition ever. Course is flat. Weather might be the only potential sucky part. Here's a link to last year's results. http://www.truetimeracing.com/results.php?id=3137Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Originally posted by popsracer Mike, what race are you doing to try to qualify for AGN? Rock Hall International (MD)...it's a USAT Regional Qualifier so the top 3rd of each AG qualify. I think we were talking about this in one of the other challenges (Daniels? Weakness?)...weren't you considering coming to this one? I was looking for a special qualifier because I doubt I am going to be top 10% unless the field is very, very weak which in my age group is doubtful. I'd have to go sub 2:30 based on last year's results. I think I'm close especially given the course. I see it's very flat but is wind an issue there? I also see they have a partcipant's list so could do some Athlinks stalking to maybe get an idea of depth of current field. Thanks Elisa. That happens to be the busiest weekend of the year. I already have to pick between Boise 70.3, another great local Oly, and a marathon that I want to run all scheduled on the same day. Besides, looks like you got some pretty fast old guys in Iowa. I'm still crossing my fingers for Kona lottery and if I get picked everything changes in a heartbeat. I missed that you had entered the lottery?!?! When do you find out?
Lottery winners are announced April 15th. Getting to Kona anyway I can and running Boston are at the top of my bucket list. Oh, and I just got back from +1 swim. Yay!! Got an eight mile run this evening then I think I'll need a beer or two. Seems like Friday today. What do you need to BQ? When and where are you going to do that? (<-- notice there is not "try" only do) |
| 2014-03-20 6:17 PM in reply to: switch |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge I got my two swims in today--first time ever. Yay! Morning swim: 5/7, 2100yds Purpose: keep it EZ, see what an am swim feels like 350 S, did turns (they sucked) 4 x (200 S, 100 P, 100 K)< :05RI between each CD Afternoon swim: 6/7, 2200yds Purpose: work form, proper muscle engagement, high elbow 850S at CSS 2 x (200 S, 100 K, 200 P) 100, 50, 50 @ 95% trying to hold form (pretty tired at this point) CD
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| 2014-03-20 6:19 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by popsracer Lottery winners are announced April 15th. Getting to Kona anyway I can and running Boston are at the top of my bucket list. Oh, and I just got back from +1 swim. Yay!! Got an eight mile run this evening then I think I'll need a beer or two. Seems like Friday today. I hope you get in! Kona is an awesome place. |
| 2014-03-20 6:21 PM in reply to: switch |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch I got my two swims in today--first time ever. Yay! Morning swim: 5/7, 2100yds Purpose: keep it EZ, see what an am swim feels like 350 S, did turns (they sucked) 4 x (200 S, 100 P, 100 K)< :05RI between each CD Afternoon swim: 6/7, 2200yds Purpose: work form, proper muscle engagement, high elbow 850S at CSS 2 x (200 S, 100 K, 200 P) 100, 50, 50 @ 95% trying to hold form (pretty tired at this point) CD
Good stuff! I can't remember the last time I swam twice in a day (on the beach in a Mexican resort doesn't count). |
| 2014-03-20 6:46 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Lottery drawing is for this October's race. If selected you have to complete another WTC 70.3 or IM by the end of August to validate your slot. That's why I'm holding Boise 70.3 open if I need to race there. BQ for me is 3:30. My next marathon is in two weeks and I'm shooting for 3:55ish. Goal is to get down around 3:45 this year and qualify next year. Might take another year but I am very contend to smell the roses and enjoy my races along the way. And two swims a day in just crazy. Shame on me for just two swims a week. You all set some pretty high bars. |
| 2014-03-20 7:05 PM in reply to: switch |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch I got my two swims in today--first time ever. Yay! Morning swim: 5/7, 2100yds Purpose: keep it EZ, see what an am swim feels like 350 S, did turns (they sucked) 4 x (200 S, 100 P, 100 K)< :05RI between each CD Afternoon swim: 6/7, 2200yds Purpose: work form, proper muscle engagement, high elbow 850S at CSS 2 x (200 S, 100 K, 200 P) 100, 50, 50 @ 95% trying to hold form (pretty tired at this point) CD
Wow! Very impressive! When I first saw your goal of 7 per week, I was impressed that you were planning to swim every day...the thought of two swims in a day hadn't even crossed my mind. Kudos! |
| 2014-03-20 7:08 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by popsracer Shame on me for just two swims a week. My thoughts exactly!! |
| 2014-03-20 7:10 PM in reply to: MikeyP4 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by MikeyP4 Originally posted by popsracer My thoughts exactly!! Shame on me for just two swims a week. Aww, thanks guys. I'm pumped about it. Did I mention I haven't been on my bike yet this year?
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| 2014-03-20 7:16 PM in reply to: switch |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by MikeyP4 Originally posted by popsracer My thoughts exactly!! Shame on me for just two swims a week. Aww, thanks guys. I'm pumped about it. Did I mention I haven't been on my bike yet this year?
Sounds like an n+1 bike challenge might be next...  |
| 2014-03-20 8:33 PM in reply to: el penguino |
Veteran 727 Baltimore Area | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by el penguino swim #2 this week; yesterday: My swim coach/teacher was briefly in town so met up for a swim (not a lesson); this is more organized then I usually am! She feels you should always have some sprint in a session. plus she says my stroke and breathing are better when I sprint. figures. warm up- 150 m did 3X (25 fingertip drill, 25 "perfect stroke") 4X build each 25 Speed work: 150 smooth 25 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 50 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 75 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 100 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 4X of kick 25, breast 25, rest 50 more for taping. I like your set. My swim coach says on my short swim days or if I am pressed for time, focus on speed work. After a short warm up, sprint 25, swim 25 easy and repeat until the end of the session. |
| 2014-03-20 10:28 PM in reply to: axteraa |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by switch I got my two swims in today--first time ever. Yay! Morning swim: 5/7, 2100yds Purpose: keep it EZ, see what an am swim feels like 350 S, did turns (they sucked) 4 x (200 S, 100 P, 100 K)< :05RI between each CD Afternoon swim: 6/7, 2200yds Purpose: work form, proper muscle engagement, high elbow 850S at CSS 2 x (200 S, 100 K, 200 P) 100, 50, 50 @ 95% trying to hold form (pretty tired at this point) CD
Good stuff! I can't remember the last time I swam twice in a day (on the beach in a Mexican resort doesn't count). Just now for me. And yeah, it's still tough. In swimming, the more you beat yourself up, the better, right? Even more so with some bike intervals in there as well. |
| 2014-03-20 11:14 PM in reply to: MikeyP4 |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by MikeyP4 Originally posted by switch Sounds like an n+1 bike challenge might be next... Originally posted by MikeyP4 Originally posted by popsracer My thoughts exactly!! Shame on me for just two swims a week. Aww, thanks guys. I'm pumped about it. Did I mention I haven't been on my bike yet this year?
My thoughts exactly. |
| 2014-03-21 2:41 AM in reply to: Lovey |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by Lovey Originally posted by el penguino swim #2 this week; yesterday: My swim coach/teacher was briefly in town so met up for a swim (not a lesson); this is more organized then I usually am! She feels you should always have some sprint in a session. plus she says my stroke and breathing are better when I sprint. figures. warm up- 150 m did 3X (25 fingertip drill, 25 "perfect stroke") 4X build each 25 Speed work: 150 smooth 25 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 50 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 75 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 100 sprint, rest, 25 easy rest 4X of kick 25, breast 25, rest 50 more for taping. I like your set. My swim coach says on my short swim days or if I am pressed for time, focus on speed work. After a short warm up, sprint 25, swim 25 easy and repeat until the end of the session. I like your coach! |
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