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 2015-11-05 9:54 AM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Pro  15655    |  Subject: RE: TrumpOriginally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by dmiller5 1 or 3 running a for profit business, and running the government, are extraordinarily different. The government is legally not allowed to really make money. Correct....but the Govt. is allowed to save money, and it is allowed to balance it's budget....something that would REALLY benefit all of us. I tend to agree that we need someone in that office with come business acumen, particularly when it comes to foreign policy in this "global economy". I don't see many candidates (actually none) besides Trump that fit that bill. If my choices are either Clinton or Sanders........and Trump. I'll vote for Trump. hes a joke Ok.....but Clinton is a liar who just constantly plays political games (one of the worst of the lot as far as I'm concerned.....I'm done with career politicians), and Sanders is a dreamer (with NO chance of being the Dem candidate)......so I'll take the joke with good business sense every time. Besides, it'll be fun. no I meant you LB :P LMAO I have feelings........that was hurtful.
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| 2015-11-05 10:29 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Trump |
| 2015-11-05 10:51 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 9391  Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump that video made me LOL for real. haha |
| 2015-11-05 11:47 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by tuwood that video made me LOL for real. haha SNL is still on? |
| 2015-11-05 11:53 AM in reply to: mdg2003 |
| New user 900 , | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by mdg2003 Originally posted by tuwood that video made me LOL for real. haha SNL is still on? To quote Bugs Bunny, "what a maroon". |
| 2015-11-05 12:10 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by jeffnboise I concur. I just don't get how presumably educated, informed voters can listen to Trump spew his gibberish and think he has even a remote chance of getting the Republican nod, much less a room at 1600 Penn Blvd. The Democrats haven't even BEGUN to attack the Repub front runners. They don't have to-they'll implode all on there own. What will Trumps speeches sound like now that he's NOT leading in the polls. How is Rubio gonna explain his misuse of Florida Party charge/credit cards. And Cruz.....we'll he's just Ted. He's disliked so completely that the establishment Repubs will vote for Hillary before they back Cruz. Meanwhile the 'Select" Committee only strengthened Hillary in the eyes of moderate Democrats. We're talking about the wife of Teflon Bill, here.
I have trouble understanding how presumably educated and informed voters can listen to Sanders and Clinton spew their gibberish and believe they are any different than the republican front runners. What have either of these two knuckleheads managed correctly? Ted Cruz is the only one running that wants to try and rein in the ridiculous debt our country has piled up since Teflon Bill left office. Everyone else is just babbling about spending more or cutting the head off the unicorn. But you are correct, Ted is unelectable. He panders to the religious groups and that will help kill him at the national level. Do you give a flip about what you are leaving behind for the children that you cherish so much when it comes to guns, climate control and the environment? How do educated people believe that we can spend our way out of this mess? Our debt is at such a ridiculous level right now that we are teetering on the edge of extinction. Bernie plans to double that debt; while increasing enough tax revenue to run the Post Office for about one day. Do you care about the future of this country for your children and their children? We're doing it wrong as a nation. Doubling down on stupid won't magically turn it all around. Gay marriage, abortion, Benghazi, immigration, a border fence... these are all smoke screens being thrown up by another slate full of incompetent politicians in an effort to get us to take our eye off the ball. Our debt and out of control, unchecked spending is the ball. Who has a plan for tackling that? I have trouble understanding how anyone can defend any of the front runners. Of either party. Edited by mdg2003 2015-11-05 12:14 PM |
| 2015-11-05 12:11 PM in reply to: NXS |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by NXS Originally posted by mdg2003 Originally posted by tuwood that video made me LOL for real. haha SNL is still on? To quote Bugs Bunny, "what a maroon". wait. Did you just call me purple? |
| 2015-11-05 12:28 PM in reply to: mdg2003 |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by mdg2003 Originally posted by jeffnboise I have trouble understanding how presumably educated and informed voters can listen to Sanders and Clinton spew their gibberish and believe they are any different than the republican front runners. What have either of these two knuckleheads managed correctly? Ted Cruz is the only one running that wants to try and rein in the ridiculous debt our country has piled up since Teflon Bill left office. Everyone else is just babbling about spending more or cutting the head off the unicorn. But you are correct, Ted is unelectable. He panders to the religious groups and that will help kill him at the national level. Do you give a flip about what you are leaving behind for the children that you cherish so much when it comes to guns, climate control and the environment? How do educated people believe that we can spend our way out of this mess? Our debt is at such a ridiculous level right now that we are teetering on the edge of extinction. Bernie plans to double that debt; while increasing enough tax revenue to run the Post Office for about one day. Do you care about the future of this country for your children and their children? We're doing it wrong as a nation. Doubling down on stupid won't magically turn it all around. Gay marriage, abortion, Benghazi, immigration, a border fence... these are all smoke screens being thrown up by another slate full of incompetent politicians in an effort to get us to take our eye off the ball. Our debt and out of control, unchecked spending is the ball. Who has a plan for tackling that? I have trouble understanding how anyone can defend any of the front runners. Of either party. I concur. I just don't get how presumably educated, informed voters can listen to Trump spew his gibberish and think he has even a remote chance of getting the Republican nod, much less a room at 1600 Penn Blvd. The Democrats haven't even BEGUN to attack the Repub front runners. They don't have to-they'll implode all on there own. What will Trumps speeches sound like now that he's NOT leading in the polls. How is Rubio gonna explain his misuse of Florida Party charge/credit cards. And Cruz.....we'll he's just Ted. He's disliked so completely that the establishment Repubs will vote for Hillary before they back Cruz. Meanwhile the 'Select" Committee only strengthened Hillary in the eyes of moderate Democrats. We're talking about the wife of Teflon Bill, here.
cutting taxes increases the debt and hurts the economy. people not having health care hurts the economy. not having a social safety net hurts the economy. inequality hurts the economy. |
| 2015-11-05 12:47 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 2802 Minnetonka, Minnesota Bronze member | Subject: RE: Trump Whoa, unbuch those undies! Maybe the debt isn't all THAT bad? http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/02/01/qa-what-the-18-trillion-n... If I were King I would: 1. Cut defense spending by 10 to 20%. We have WAY too many unneeded and very expensive programs (F35!) and too many overseas bases, etc. 2. Get rid of the cap on Social Security or have a donut hole so it picks up again at 500,000 or something. 3. Keep working on reducing the growth of medical expenses and move to single payer for a basic coverage and make people pay extra for premium programs. Why should health car be linked to having a job??? 4. Amend the constitution if need be so "corporations aren't people" and get the gross amount of money out of politics. 5. Work to streamline and eliminate unneeded regulations. 6. Create a new Glass-Steagall to separate traditional banking from more risky investment schemes. 7. Start enforcing the Sherman Antitrust Act again. Edited by ejshowers 2015-11-05 12:48 PM |
| 2015-11-05 12:52 PM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by mdg2003 Originally posted by jeffnboise I have trouble understanding how presumably educated and informed voters can listen to Sanders and Clinton spew their gibberish and believe they are any different than the republican front runners. What have either of these two knuckleheads managed correctly? Ted Cruz is the only one running that wants to try and rein in the ridiculous debt our country has piled up since Teflon Bill left office. Everyone else is just babbling about spending more or cutting the head off the unicorn. But you are correct, Ted is unelectable. He panders to the religious groups and that will help kill him at the national level. Do you give a flip about what you are leaving behind for the children that you cherish so much when it comes to guns, climate control and the environment? How do educated people believe that we can spend our way out of this mess? Our debt is at such a ridiculous level right now that we are teetering on the edge of extinction. Bernie plans to double that debt; while increasing enough tax revenue to run the Post Office for about one day. Do you care about the future of this country for your children and their children? We're doing it wrong as a nation. Doubling down on stupid won't magically turn it all around. Gay marriage, abortion, Benghazi, immigration, a border fence... these are all smoke screens being thrown up by another slate full of incompetent politicians in an effort to get us to take our eye off the ball. Our debt and out of control, unchecked spending is the ball. Who has a plan for tackling that? I have trouble understanding how anyone can defend any of the front runners. Of either party. I concur. I just don't get how presumably educated, informed voters can listen to Trump spew his gibberish and think he has even a remote chance of getting the Republican nod, much less a room at 1600 Penn Blvd. The Democrats haven't even BEGUN to attack the Repub front runners. They don't have to-they'll implode all on there own. What will Trumps speeches sound like now that he's NOT leading in the polls. How is Rubio gonna explain his misuse of Florida Party charge/credit cards. And Cruz.....we'll he's just Ted. He's disliked so completely that the establishment Repubs will vote for Hillary before they back Cruz. Meanwhile the 'Select" Committee only strengthened Hillary in the eyes of moderate Democrats. We're talking about the wife of Teflon Bill, here.
cutting taxes increases the debt and hurts the economy. people not having health care hurts the economy. not having a social safety net hurts the economy. inequality hurts the economy. Did I mention cutting taxes? I think you're tired because this isn't A game from you, but I'll play. Everyone has healthcare in this country. It is the law and we call it ACA or obamacare. We have social safety nets. Medicaid, SS, WIC, Welfare, Foodstamps. The list of social safety nets available in this country is so long I won't attempt to list them all. You know they are there. Inequality? Really? We can spend our way to equality for all? Haven't we got a Constitution that grants equal rights to all? It's up to the individual to stand up and make certain their rights and equality aren't infringed upon. Stand up for yourself and your rights, otherwise you're just part of the problem. |
| 2015-11-05 12:57 PM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Member 465 | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by dmiller5 1 or 3 running a for profit business, and running the government, are extraordinarily different. The government is legally not allowed to really make money. Isn't the government the only legal entity that can make money? |
| 2015-11-05 1:01 PM in reply to: mdg2003 |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by mdg2003 Originally posted by dmiller5 Did I mention cutting taxes? I think you're tired because this isn't A game from you, but I'll play. Everyone has healthcare in this country. It is the law and we call it ACA or obamacare. We have social safety nets. Medicaid, SS, WIC, Welfare, Foodstamps. The list of social safety nets available in this country is so long I won't attempt to list them all. You know they are there. Inequality? Really? We can spend our way to equality for all? Haven't we got a Constitution that grants equal rights to all? It's up to the individual to stand up and make certain their rights and equality aren't infringed upon. Stand up for yourself and your rights, otherwise you're just part of the problem. Originally posted by mdg2003 Originally posted by jeffnboise I have trouble understanding how presumably educated and informed voters can listen to Sanders and Clinton spew their gibberish and believe they are any different than the republican front runners. What have either of these two knuckleheads managed correctly? Ted Cruz is the only one running that wants to try and rein in the ridiculous debt our country has piled up since Teflon Bill left office. Everyone else is just babbling about spending more or cutting the head off the unicorn. But you are correct, Ted is unelectable. He panders to the religious groups and that will help kill him at the national level. Do you give a flip about what you are leaving behind for the children that you cherish so much when it comes to guns, climate control and the environment? How do educated people believe that we can spend our way out of this mess? Our debt is at such a ridiculous level right now that we are teetering on the edge of extinction. Bernie plans to double that debt; while increasing enough tax revenue to run the Post Office for about one day. Do you care about the future of this country for your children and their children? We're doing it wrong as a nation. Doubling down on stupid won't magically turn it all around. Gay marriage, abortion, Benghazi, immigration, a border fence... these are all smoke screens being thrown up by another slate full of incompetent politicians in an effort to get us to take our eye off the ball. Our debt and out of control, unchecked spending is the ball. Who has a plan for tackling that? I have trouble understanding how anyone can defend any of the front runners. Of either party. I concur. I just don't get how presumably educated, informed voters can listen to Trump spew his gibberish and think he has even a remote chance of getting the Republican nod, much less a room at 1600 Penn Blvd. The Democrats haven't even BEGUN to attack the Repub front runners. They don't have to-they'll implode all on there own. What will Trumps speeches sound like now that he's NOT leading in the polls. How is Rubio gonna explain his misuse of Florida Party charge/credit cards. And Cruz.....we'll he's just Ted. He's disliked so completely that the establishment Repubs will vote for Hillary before they back Cruz. Meanwhile the 'Select" Committee only strengthened Hillary in the eyes of moderate Democrats. We're talking about the wife of Teflon Bill, here.
cutting taxes increases the debt and hurts the economy. people not having health care hurts the economy. not having a social safety net hurts the economy. inequality hurts the economy. we do have these things, but many of the Rep. candidates seemingly want to erode them. Blatant racism and sexism, saying things like they'd repeal ACA the first day in office. Those are things that turn me off of every BOP candidate |
| 2015-11-05 1:03 PM in reply to: ejshowers |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by ejshowers Whoa, unbuch those undies! Maybe the debt isn't all THAT bad? http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/02/01/qa-what-the-18-trillion-n... If I were King I would: 1. Cut defense spending by 10 to 20%. We have WAY too many unneeded and very expensive programs (F35!) and too many overseas bases, etc. 2. Get rid of the cap on Social Security or have a donut hole so it picks up again at 500,000 or something. 3. Keep working on reducing the growth of medical expenses and move to single payer for a basic coverage and make people pay extra for premium programs. Why should health car be linked to having a job??? 4. Amend the constitution if need be so "corporations aren't people" and get the gross amount of money out of politics. 5. Work to streamline and eliminate unneeded regulations. 6. Create a new Glass-Steagall to separate traditional banking from more risky investment schemes. 7. Start enforcing the Sherman Antitrust Act again. Undies are not bunched. Just having a political chat with some fellow Amurcans.  I think I'm with you on most of these to a certain extent. #3, nope. Sure we can get healthcare for all and we don't necessarily need single payer to accomplish that. That's a whole different and lengthy argument though. Why make those with healthcare through their job pay a fine for having a premium plan? Why should having healthcare through a job be penalized? Doesn't make any sense to me. If I'm working, paying taxes and my compensation includes healthcare, why do I need to be fined? Seems counterproductive. I could probably vote for you for King if you were running. No wait. Monarchs don't get elected... |
| 2015-11-05 1:08 PM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Trump I guess it comes down to what you consider "running" or "fixing" the economy to look like. My view on Trump is that he's a guy who has already profited handsomely from the status quo. If what I understand you to be saying is, "The way the economy works today is bad and we need a person who will come in and do things differently", my question would be, "why would you expect a person who has literally made billions of dollars off the existing economic structure to come in and radically change how it works"? Why would you expect a billionaire who has profited extensively from decreased oversight and deregualtion of financial markets to put up guardrails that protect small investors and hold Wall Street executives accountable for playing fast and loose with the financial industry? Why would you expect the owner of a billion-dollar multinational corporation to be the champion of small business? Why would you expect a person whose success has been partially the result of negotiating effectively with labor to protect the rights of workers in equal measure to protecting their employers? Why would you expect a person who has never, ever been remotely close to being middle class, and who has loudly, ostentatiously created a world that caters only to the most wealthy, to be the person who defends the shrinking middle class? You think that because he's wealthy that Trump's somehow incorruptible? That he "can't be bought" by lobbyists? If anything, the opposite is true. You think he hasn't made some sweetheart deals with politicians or union leaders in his life to get a good deal on a property or make a labor dispute go away? But once he's president, you expect him to just ignore the phone when his cronies come calling looking for a handout or a fat government contract? |
| 2015-11-05 1:12 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by mdg2003 Originally posted by dmiller5 Did I mention cutting taxes? I think you're tired because this isn't A game from you, but I'll play. Everyone has healthcare in this country. It is the law and we call it ACA or obamacare. We have social safety nets. Medicaid, SS, WIC, Welfare, Foodstamps. The list of social safety nets available in this country is so long I won't attempt to list them all. You know they are there. Inequality? Really? We can spend our way to equality for all? Haven't we got a Constitution that grants equal rights to all? It's up to the individual to stand up and make certain their rights and equality aren't infringed upon. Stand up for yourself and your rights, otherwise you're just part of the problem. Originally posted by mdg2003 Originally posted by jeffnboise I have trouble understanding how presumably educated and informed voters can listen to Sanders and Clinton spew their gibberish and believe they are any different than the republican front runners. What have either of these two knuckleheads managed correctly? Ted Cruz is the only one running that wants to try and rein in the ridiculous debt our country has piled up since Teflon Bill left office. Everyone else is just babbling about spending more or cutting the head off the unicorn. But you are correct, Ted is unelectable. He panders to the religious groups and that will help kill him at the national level. Do you give a flip about what you are leaving behind for the children that you cherish so much when it comes to guns, climate control and the environment? How do educated people believe that we can spend our way out of this mess? Our debt is at such a ridiculous level right now that we are teetering on the edge of extinction. Bernie plans to double that debt; while increasing enough tax revenue to run the Post Office for about one day. Do you care about the future of this country for your children and their children? We're doing it wrong as a nation. Doubling down on stupid won't magically turn it all around. Gay marriage, abortion, Benghazi, immigration, a border fence... these are all smoke screens being thrown up by another slate full of incompetent politicians in an effort to get us to take our eye off the ball. Our debt and out of control, unchecked spending is the ball. Who has a plan for tackling that? I have trouble understanding how anyone can defend any of the front runners. Of either party. I concur. I just don't get how presumably educated, informed voters can listen to Trump spew his gibberish and think he has even a remote chance of getting the Republican nod, much less a room at 1600 Penn Blvd. The Democrats haven't even BEGUN to attack the Repub front runners. They don't have to-they'll implode all on there own. What will Trumps speeches sound like now that he's NOT leading in the polls. How is Rubio gonna explain his misuse of Florida Party charge/credit cards. And Cruz.....we'll he's just Ted. He's disliked so completely that the establishment Repubs will vote for Hillary before they back Cruz. Meanwhile the 'Select" Committee only strengthened Hillary in the eyes of moderate Democrats. We're talking about the wife of Teflon Bill, here.
cutting taxes increases the debt and hurts the economy. people not having health care hurts the economy. not having a social safety net hurts the economy. inequality hurts the economy. we do have these things, but many of the Rep. candidates seemingly want to erode them. Blatant racism and sexism, saying things like they'd repeal ACA the first day in office. Those are things that turn me off of every BOP candidate Dude, you need to drop the sexist racist BS if you really want me to take anything you post seriously. Repealing ACA has nothing to with race or gender. It has to do with erasing an already bloated failure from the list of taxpayer dependent programs. That is a win for the entire country. Let's get a bi-partisan effort going and make a program that is created EQUALLY for all Americans. ACA was written with specific exemptions and favors for each politician they needed to buy to vote for it. It is a bloated POS that needs to be fixed before it is too late. Can the rinos fix it after they were to repeal it? Probably not, but I would like to see them at least try. Yikes! Time flies. I have to go to work! Cheers y'all. Edited by mdg2003 2015-11-05 1:13 PM |
| 2015-11-05 1:13 PM in reply to: mdg2003 |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Trump I'm talking about he candidates being openly sexist and racist... |
| 2015-11-05 2:09 PM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by dmiller5 I'm talking about he candidates being openly sexist and racist... Every time you say sexist and racist a baby polar bear dies. |
| 2015-11-05 2:18 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Trump |
| 2015-11-05 2:23 PM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Expert 2180 Boise, Idaho | Subject: RE: Trump Republicans insist that the answer is MOVE TO THE RIGHT! On EVERYTHING! It's not working. We are a Center-Right country. Moderate Republicans across the county are beginning to feel disenfranchised (sp) just like any other voting group. When you get you handed to you in the last 2 presidential elections-I think you need to rethink your (failed) stra-tee-ger-ee. 2016 will pit Hillary against a (badly) damaged Republican who has suddenly done a Romney-esq 'etch a sketch' maneuver to the center. Repubs on the Right AND the Center will stomp their collective feet, take you toys and go home. i.e. NOT VOTE! They will, instead channel that rage and mass produce 100's of illiterate bumper stickers pledging their Devotion to Guns, God and The Red, White and Blue, "Impeach Hillary" and......well, you get the idea. And maybe, MAYBE when the dust settles they'll take the hint and start to actually try to GOVERN. Then we'll see 'real' progress. |
| 2015-11-05 2:34 PM in reply to: jeffnboise |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by jeffnboise Republicans insist that the answer is MOVE TO THE RIGHT! On EVERYTHING! It's not working. We are a Center-Right country. Moderate Republicans across the county are beginning to feel disenfranchised (sp) just like any other voting group. When you get you handed to you in the last 2 presidential elections-I think you need to rethink your (failed) stra-tee-ger-ee. 2016 will pit Hillary against a (badly) damaged Republican who has suddenly done a Romney-esq 'etch a sketch' maneuver to the center. Repubs on the Right AND the Center will stomp their collective feet, take you toys and go home. i.e. NOT VOTE! They will, instead channel that rage and mass produce 100's of illiterate bumper stickers pledging their Devotion to Guns, God and The Red, White and Blue, "Impeach Hillary" and......well, you get the idea. And maybe, MAYBE when the dust settles they'll take the hint and start to actually try to GOVERN. Then we'll see 'real' progress. You sound pretty confident in Hillary catching fire. The problem with the last two elections was the fact that the GOPe pushed "their guy" out front in both cases. Romney and McCain were the center people that were "most electable" because they could reach across the great divide. All the while the Democrats were pushing a guy who was the most hard core lefty that's ever ran for office. Guess who won? The guy who was hard core left because his base was excited and showed up to vote while the republicans were repulsed by their candidates and many stayed home. With Trump the Republicans now have a true populist candidate who is touching on the hard core right in areas, but also very centrist on other issues that bridge over. He'll be going up against a coronated candidate who the democrats are not very excited about. If anything it appears the Democrats have learned from the Republicans how to lose an election and I couldn't be happier about it. |
| 2015-11-05 2:56 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Trump BAHAHA, Obama hard core lefty? He is center left at best. bernie is much further left. hillary swings a little to the right of obama |
| 2015-11-05 3:09 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Master 2802 Minnetonka, Minnesota Bronze member | Subject: RE: Trump Most interesting super-early analysis I have read: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-election-is-a-year-away-is-e... |
| 2015-11-05 3:18 PM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by dmiller5 I'm talking about he candidates being openly sexist and racist... I know you were. That's why I called BS on you. Stick to the issues and don't try to sidetrack the discussion with perceived injustices against groups that you don't even belong to. |
| 2015-11-05 4:11 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by dmiller5 BAHAHA, Obama hard core lefty? He is center left at best. bernie is much further left. hillary swings a little to the right of obama Umm, what areas would you consider Obama to be centrist on? I did a quick google and found a ranking site that has him tied with Carter as the most liberal modern day president. (http://us-presidents.insidegov.com/stories/5037/ranking-presidents-least-most-conservative#2-Barack-Obama) I have never heard from anyone that he's anything but far left and that's one of his positive points. He ran left, he stayed left, and when he got in office he ran a left agenda. I am not a fan of his agenda, but I truly commend him for doing it because most politicians go straight to the status quo when they get to office no matter what platform they ran on. ** edit, btw I do agree that Bernie is further left than Obama but they guy is a socialist so that's about the only way. haha Edited by tuwood 2015-11-05 4:12 PM |
| 2015-11-05 4:31 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Expert 2180 Boise, Idaho | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jeffnboise Republicans insist that the answer is MOVE TO THE RIGHT! On EVERYTHING! It's not working. We are a Center-Right country. Moderate Republicans across the county are beginning to feel disenfranchised (sp) just like any other voting group. When you get you handed to you in the last 2 presidential elections-I think you need to rethink your (failed) stra-tee-ger-ee. 2016 will pit Hillary against a (badly) damaged Republican who has suddenly done a Romney-esq 'etch a sketch' maneuver to the center. Repubs on the Right AND the Center will stomp their collective feet, take you toys and go home. i.e. NOT VOTE! They will, instead channel that rage and mass produce 100's of illiterate bumper stickers pledging their Devotion to Guns, God and The Red, White and Blue, "Impeach Hillary" and......well, you get the idea. And maybe, MAYBE when the dust settles they'll take the hint and start to actually try to GOVERN. Then we'll see 'real' progress. COME ON, MAHN!! I thought the 'bumper sticker' line would elicit more of a primordial response.
You sound pretty confident in Hillary catching fire. The problem with the last two elections was the fact that the GOPe pushed "their guy" out front in both cases. Romney and McCain were the center people that were "most electable" because they could reach across the great divide. All the while the Democrats were pushing a guy who was the most hard core lefty that's ever ran for office. Guess who won? The guy who was hard core left because his base was excited and showed up to vote while the republicans were repulsed by their candidates and many stayed home. With Trump the Republicans now have a true populist candidate who is touching on the hard core right in areas, but also very centrist on other issues that bridge over. He'll be going up against a coronated candidate who the democrats are not very excited about. If anything it appears the Democrats have learned from the Republicans how to lose an election and I couldn't be happier about it. |
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