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2009-08-09 6:42 PM
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Got in last long ride-112. Pace was killed by my stupid choice of the most hilly route in Central Alabama. Heat index was well above 100 by early afternoon. Did not take anough fluids for first loop & ended up riding about 45 minutes with no fluids. Had flat tire at mile 48. Dropped my last bottle around mile 90. Went by two stores-but forgot $$$. Started one hour run & wheels totally fell off by mile two.Walk/run to finish hour. My body & confidence are totally gone. My training has gone so well for the last 3 months-this is not the way i wanted to enter my taper. Sorry to vent, but I'm just frustrated Cry


2009-08-09 6:53 PM
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Show me the TAPER.....Last long run today Temp 90+ with 22 miles thankfully behind me.  It was nice and slow but if i can feel even close to this good in the end in 3 weeks I'll be Cool.  I start dropping the volume this week and to be honest I'm planning on playing with my son, relaxing some and celebrating my B-Day on the 12th :P

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That sucsk man sorry to hear that!
2009-08-09 7:58 PM
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Well first humid day in upstate NY all summer ran in it was not bad at all.  I had a nother breakthrough ran 9 miles and leg was feeling ok.  One more week of 16 hours then I start my tpper woo hoo!  This must have been the weekend of flats had two and ended up having to  be driven back to th ehouse was lucky got 75 miles in before the flats hit.  So I too k the bike into the shop was goign to get new tires anyways this jsut made it happen a coupel of days early.  Getting Michelin Pro3 Race Tire   anyone ever use them?
  They seem to get good reviews. 
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2009-08-09 8:11 PM
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opiejoe - 2009-08-09 6:42 PM

Got in last long ride-112. Pace was killed by my stupid choice of the most hilly route in Central Alabama. Heat index was well above 100 by early afternoon. Did not take anough fluids for first loop & ended up riding about 45 minutes with no fluids. Had flat tire at mile 48. Dropped my last bottle around mile 90. Went by two stores-but forgot $$$. Started one hour run & wheels totally fell off by mile two.Walk/run to finish hour. My body & confidence are totally gone. My training has gone so well for the last 3 months-this is not the way i wanted to enter my taper. Sorry to vent, but I'm just frustrated Cry


Glad I am not the only one. I also had a bad weekend. I have one more week here to try to end on a good note. Keep your fingers crossed.
2009-08-10 6:30 AM
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When I read that a person had to end their I.M. quest after crashing over RR tracks in broke my heart.  I'm sorry to hear this.  Hopefully you will heal quickly enough to do something with your fitness later in the fall.Surprised


Looks like many of us are feeling sluggish.  Yesterday I convinced myself I had fallen out of shape, had lost all good form in everything, and would have to struggle to do a 1.2 mile swim.  None of this is true however.  Last week I had a great long swim, long ride, and long run.  To start this week, this morning I ran four miles, each one progressively faster-  8:32; 7:44; 6:36; 5:52 and it did wonders for my confidence just to know that I am still fit.  I'm not saying to go out and attempt a 5k or 10k PR or anything, but doing a shorter-faster workout can sometimes help to shake out some cobwebs.Laughing

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2009-08-10 7:35 AM
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Sounds like youre almost ready!  This is how you should be feeling by this point, totally beat down and suffering after months of hard training.  This is all just practice for the big race, so this is the best time to make mistakes and learn from them. 

opiejoe - 2009-08-09 7:42 PM Got in last long ride-112. Pace was killed by my stupid choice of the most hilly route in Central Alabama. Heat index was well above 100 by early afternoon. Did not take anough fluids for first loop & ended up riding about 45 minutes with no fluids. Had flat tire at mile 48. Dropped my last bottle around mile 90. Went by two stores-but forgot $$$. Started one hour run & wheels totally fell off by mile two.Walk/run to finish hour. My body & confidence are totally gone. My training has gone so well for the last 3 months-this is not the way i wanted to enter my taper. Sorry to vent, but I'm just frustrated Cry

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opiejoe - 2009-08-09 7:42 PM Got in last long ride-112. Pace was killed by my stupid choice of the most hilly route in Central Alabama. Heat index was well above 100 by early afternoon. Did not take anough fluids for first loop & ended up riding about 45 minutes with no fluids. Had flat tire at mile 48. Dropped my last bottle around mile 90. Went by two stores-but forgot $$$. Started one hour run & wheels totally fell off by mile two.Walk/run to finish hour. My body & confidence are totally gone. My training has gone so well for the last 3 months-this is not the way i wanted to enter my taper. Sorry to vent, but I'm just frustrated Cry


Running out of water was the only real problem you had.  You should remain confident in your fitness level.  This is exactly what you are supposed to fee like if you've been progressively wearing out and rebuilding your body for the big day.  If your training plan over the past 4 months has been a periodization plan, you've been through several blocks of 3-4 weeks of tough training followed by 1 week of lighter hours, with each 3-4 week block getting progressively harder.  That means that you've just finished the final (and toughest) training block of your year.  If your body is not completely empty, you've either not trainined to full potential or you're a pro/freak that can take even more punishment of a tougher training plan.  Sounds like you are exactly where you need to be.  The final weekend of the last hard week is designed to completely drain the body.  Don't let it mess with your confidence, though.  In fact, you should be emboldened, knowing that you've gotten every drop out of your legs.

The taper is meant for the recovery.  Mentally, we'll all feel like we're getting sluggish, gaining weight over these next couple of weeks.  Don't stop training, but resist the desire to hit the road too hard.  Training should be at 50-75% effort, and 50-75% distance for a good two weeks in order to let your body heal and strengthen what's been broken down over the summer.  Virtually no additional fitmess can be gained in the last two weeks, so just take it easy and maintain what you've worked so hard to accumulate - and get plenty of rest to recover.

Stay safe out there.  



    

 

2009-08-10 8:04 AM
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Georgian - 2009-08-10 9:01 AM


 Virtually no additional fitmess can be gained in the last two weeks, so just take it easy and maintain what you've worked so hard to accumulate - and get plenty of rest to recover.



That was a typo, but Freudian, I believe.


2009-08-10 8:33 AM
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Yeah, I had a bad weekend of training too.  The workout on Saturday was supposed to be a race simulation.  The bike went OK.  But, when I got to the run I just didn't have anything left.  I think this was due to not being recovered from my last long run and from chronic dehydration.  I was thirsty during the entire workout.  Anyway, it's done.  Onward to taper and some fast workouts.

< 3 weeks.  Can't wait to be there.
2009-08-10 8:56 AM
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Great weekend of training for me. 

Saturday:  1 hour swim (2.6 miles), 6 hour bike (108 miles), 45 min run (4.5 miles).  It was 97 degrees, with a 105 Heat Index and 30-40 mph winds.  Chose the hillest course in the KC area. . Good news is that I felt great, especially on the run, the run time is slow because I was walking with my training partner for half of it because he was in pretty bad shape. 

Sunday:  2 hour run (14 miles and felt AWESOME!!!!)

For those that didn't get in their long bikes/runs as planned don't worry too much about it, you will not gain any or lose any fitness between now and race day.  The main focus now is to get their without any injuries and ready to go.  Don't try and makeup any workouts this close in either, especailly long runs. 


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I was had food poisoning this week and it wound up draining me more than I thought....5 hours ride was 4.5 hours and the transition run....that did not happen.

Having trainined for IMKY last year, I like going back and checking out my logs from last year.  Thought I would share what I posted a year ago...enjoy and feel free to add your own

You might be training for an IM if

- U are hungry all the time (even after finishing a meal your stomach groans for more)

- your hair is always wet from pool, shower or sweat

- the laundry basket is full of sweat-wicking fabrics with a few pair of underwear thrown in

- you are constantly hungry

- you have no patience (in fact have stopped going to Starbucks because having more than 2 people in line in front of you means waiting too f-in long for a coffee!)

- Gu and electrolyte drinks are their own food group

- incessant hunger

- when you leave the gym, people at the front desk say "see you later" rather than "have a nice day"

- body glide, deodorant, GU and goggles are in your glovebox in the car

- people no longer ask "how are you?" they ask "how's the training going?"

- have I mentioned the hunger?

- you are always packing/unpacking clothes for the next workout

- you significant other tells you over dinner how the movie/tv show you watched last night ended b/c you fell asleep watching it

- you debate eating your arm while waiting for the waitress to bring over the friggin bread at a restaurant for fear you may starve to death

- you stop trying to figure out how much money you have spent training

- you know that surviving all of the above is worth having an IM finisher's medal!!!!  


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OK, i feel better after reading the above few posts. I guess i thought I would just blow yesterdays training away & feel awesome afterward. To sum up yesterday, my 8 yo daughter comes up to me last night with a drawing of me lying down at the Ironman finish. I said "what is this??" and she replied " it's you passed out at the finish line!!!". I then asked "well were is Mr. Ben (my training partner for IMKY) and she repklied "Oh, he is over there outside the picture throwing up"

What can you say??????Laughing
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opiejoe - 2009-08-10 9:59 AM OK, i feel better after reading the above few posts. I guess i thought I would just blow yesterdays training away & feel awesome afterward. To sum up yesterday, my 8 yo daughter comes up to me last night with a drawing of me lying down at the Ironman finish. I said "what is this??" and she replied " it's you passed out at the finish line!!!". I then asked "well were is Mr. Ben (my training partner for IMKY) and she repklied "Oh, he is over there outside the picture throwing up"

What can you say??????Laughing


OMG, that is PRICELESS!!!!!
2009-08-10 12:38 PM
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Wow... IT is already here... I have to be honest... I have trained as much as my 'busy life' allowed me... and I broke a lot of barriers (swiming!!!!)... but I haven't had the chance to have either a long bike or a long run. This is my LAST week of heavy traning... and I do not have time to put them together (I will be on a family trip during the weekend... hence... no training at all). This is my plan: tomorrow morning I'll do 3 hours of bike before work... and three after work (that sums 6... and I guess it should count as a long ride).
Wednesday I'll do the same with the run.... 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the evening... with this I will close the training before tapering... Is this a good game plan?
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Tri Sam - 2009-08-10 7:30 AM When I read that a person had to end their I.M. quest after crashing over RR tracks in broke my heart.  I'm sorry to hear this.  Hopefully you will heal quickly enough to do something with your fitness later in the fall.Surprised


Looks like many of us are feeling sluggish.  Yesterday I convinced myself I had fallen out of shape, had lost all good form in everything, and would have to struggle to do a 1.2 mile swim.  None of this is true however.  Last week I had a great long swim, long ride, and long run.  To start this week, this morning I ran four miles, each one progressively faster-  8:32; 7:44; 6:36; 5:52 and it did wonders for my confidence just to know that I am still fit.  I'm not saying to go out and attempt a 5k or 10k PR or anything, but doing a shorter-faster workout can sometimes help to shake out some cobwebs.Laughing

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thanks. i wish those of u having doubts now will look at the bright side of things....u can race!  i felt the same way just recently and now i know i was being foolish. i was ready! i could have done it! u never know how much u wanted something until its gone.  rest up guys/gals....you'll all be IRONMEN soon! i'll be there in spirit


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Bernabe - 2009-08-10 1:38 PM Wow... IT is already here... I have to be honest... I have trained as much as my 'busy life' allowed me... and I broke a lot of barriers (swiming!!!!)... but I haven't had the chance to have either a long bike or a long run. This is my LAST week of heavy traning... and I do not have time to put them together (I will be on a family trip during the weekend... hence... no training at all). This is my plan: tomorrow morning I'll do 3 hours of bike before work... and three after work (that sums 6... and I guess it should count as a long ride). Wednesday I'll do the same with the run.... 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the evening... with this I will close the training before tapering... Is this a good game plan?


Depends on your ability to recover.  The six hours of riding sounds OK to me, especially spaced out like that.  But 4 hours of running in one day 2.5 weeks before IM seems like too much unless you have an amazing base.  I'd be worried about getting an injury.
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opiejoe - 2009-08-10 11:59 AM OK, i feel better after reading the above few posts. I guess i thought I would just blow yesterdays training away & feel awesome afterward. To sum up yesterday, my 8 yo daughter comes up to me last night with a drawing of me lying down at the Ironman finish. I said "what is this??" and she replied " it's you passed out at the finish line!!!". I then asked "well were is Mr. Ben (my training partner for IMKY) and she repklied "Oh, he is over there outside the picture throwing up"

What can you say??????Laughing


Awesome!  But its very likely that could happen.
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FYI per the IMKY website they changed the cut off to 16hrs! EDIT

IT is now removed!!!!  Not sure what is going on.

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razorxp - 2009-08-10 2:20 PM FYI per the IMKY website they changed the cut off to 16hrs! 


Didn't see it, but it makes sense.  Last year I was about 3/4 of the way back and it took me 44 minutes to get into the water. 

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2009-08-10 2:44 PM
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razorxp - 2009-08-10 2:20 PM FYI per the IMKY website they changed the cut off to 16hrs! 


 It's gone now... Head over to ST  they have about three different threads of people with taper maddness already, with up to the seconds reports on the swim start...


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Yeah, it was up on the site for about 10 minutes and then it was gone.  I wonder what the deal is? 

Why they don't have a mass start is beyond me. .   The reason for TT start the first year (2007) is because the water was so high and the current so strong. . .. 

I think the Mass start is a beautiful thing and would take care of the worries about getting there to line up at 2:30 am, etc. . .  Plus you don't know who you are truly racing. . I mean, if someone in your age group passes you, or you pass someone, you might wonder. . "did they start 20 minutes before or after me or ???"  I guess that only applies for Kona hopefulls though?
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Gaarryy - 2009-08-10 3:44 PM
razorxp - 2009-08-10 2:20 PM FYI per the IMKY website they changed the cut off to 16hrs! 


 It's gone now... Head over to ST  they have about three different threads of people with taper maddness already, with up to the seconds reports on the swim start...


Great, now you've done it Gaarryy. 

I'm not talking about the 16/17 hour debate (panic) that I'm sure you've touched off on this blog.  I'm upset that you've now clued me into the SlowTwitch forum on IM-KY.  I'm already spending waaaay too much time at my desk thinking about Louisville and not getting any work done.  The last thing I needed was another drain in which to dump my work day. 

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razorxp - 2009-08-10 12:20 PM FYI per the IMKY website they changed the cut off to 16hrs! EDIT

IT is now removed!!!!  Not sure what is going on.


According to the athlete guide the course will be open until Midnight, so 17 hours.  Although you only REALLY have the full 17 hours if you are one of the ones in the water.  LAst year I think the course was open for 17 hours after the last person got in the water.
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I have a question about the IMKY swim and I'm not sure if it's been discussed yet. I'm trying to make the transition from being a comfortable wetsuit swimmer to feeling comfortable without it. With a lot of practice in the open water I am feeling much more comfortable now. My question, is how choppy/wavy is the Ohio River? I've noticed I get tired much quicker when the water is choppy.
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