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 2010-03-08 3:52 PM in reply to: #2714619 |
Expert  1023  Malvern, England |  Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official ThreadI have a tri bike second time round which I am using. It came with an 11-28 I think so I was going to stick with that. Of course once I get riding outside I will hit some hills and see how I get on. |
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| Expert 1023 Malvern, England | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread Ooh fun, bike talk for me: 1.11-28with a standard crank (53/39). I hope to ride sub 6:00. 2. I will be riding my Specialized Transition comp with Zipp 404/808 combination (not ridden with these yet - trying out in New Orleans HIM in April). |
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Master 2468   Muskego, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread |
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| Master 2468 Muskego, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread cusetri - 2010-03-09 12:25 AM papson14 - 2010-03-08 8:07 AM Eff! What was thought to be a bone bruise in my left foot turns out to be a stress fracture. Last night's run is my last for the week and on Friday I get to find out just how long I'm out. I also get to find out if I get to continue to swim and bike (since there's no pain while biking) while my foot heals. Bad news, yes, but I got a dose of reality when I got home and found ESPN showing IMAZ and double amputee Rudy Garcia-Tolson. I do have some crutches porn I could post. But they're not carbon so I'll save the pic for later.
I feel for you!....I hope you get better quickly, and it sounds like you caught it early... If you don't mind me asking, what were some of the early signs, now looking back? I only ask as to learn from your experience, and watch for those signs as I go forward. Good luck going forward, and it seems you're taking the right approach mentally and have a good attitude about it. The only warning signs was a bruise like feeling on the top of my foot. No bruise just the tenderness. By the end of my run it felt like someone was dropping something on my foot with each step. |
| 2010-03-08 4:57 PM in reply to: #2713972 |
| Master 2468 Muskego, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread Monty - 2010-03-09 1:41 AM papson14 - 2010-03-08 7:07 AM Stay positive. If your goal is to just finish, you still have plenty of time to pull this off, especially if you can swim and bike. My belief is that training to finish is not as much about specific as it is about the volume. I am purposely keeping my run volume low right now to avoid injury as that is where I get injured. If you can rest your foot till early May, that still gives you 2.5 months to train for the marathon. While not optimal, it is definately possible if you are starting from a high level of aerobic fitness from the extra cycling. Just my 2 cents. What does the in house doc say (your wife)? In any case I wish you luck and wanted to keep you positive. See you in LP..."you will do this!"Eff! What was thought to be a bone bruise in my left foot turns out to be a stress fracture. Last night's run is my last for the week and on Friday I get to find out just how long I'm out. I also get to find out if I get to continue to swim and bike (since there's no pain while biking) while my foot heals. Bad news, yes, but I got a dose of reality when I got home and found ESPN showing IMAZ and double amputee Rudy Garcia-Tolson. I do have some crutches porn I could post. But they're not carbon so I'll save the pic for later.
The wife thinks I'll be able to ride and swim but it's up to the Ortho guys. As for my finishing time, I was very dissapointed with my Japan finish and was planning on being closer to my IMFL finish from 08. While I'm not in the freakishly fast category like some of the others on this thread I am improving. I'm not sweating this injury. It's early and there is plenty of time to heal. Looking forward to aquajogging. Sounds like a hoot! |
| 2010-03-08 5:07 PM in reply to: #2714998 |
| Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread PennState - 2010-03-08 5:17 PM Which brings me to my next topic of discussion... gearing and bikes... 1. Tell me what your gearing is and what you expect/hope to ride the course in? 2. What bike/wheels you are riding? For me: 1. 12-25 with a standard crank (53/39). I hope to ride 5:20. 2. I am riding a Cannondale Slice with Zipp 404s. Hi Fred. I have a 12-25, too -- standard crank. I am hoping to ride around a 5:45. I've been toying around with the idea of going to a 12-27... |
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Master 1853 syracuse | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread |
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Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread PennState - 2010-03-08 3:12 PM I have a few thoughts... If you plan on riding over 6 hours... you should ride a triple in front. Yes I'm dead serious. If you plan on 5:40-6 hours, consider a 12-27. If you plan on 5:20-5:40, then 12-25 If you are under 5:20... yes, 11-23 is fine. Improper gearing is a huge problem at LP. If you have a big problem with the idea of a triple, then consider a compact crank and 12-27... but I'd still go with the triple. That's all probably good advice. I disagree with Dan's post earlier. I train and race with a 11-23 and have never wanted for more hill climbing gearing even on the biggest hills around here which are steeper than anything on the IMLP course. For a strong cyclist, you will want that 11 for descending. |
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| Pro 4608 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread PennState - 2010-03-08 5:17 PM Which brings me to my next topic of discussion... gearing and bikes... 1. Tell me what your gearing is and what you expect/hope to ride the course in? 2. What bike/wheels you are riding? For me: 1. 12-25 with a standard crank (53/39). I hope to ride 5:20. 2. I am riding a Cannondale Slice with Zipp 404s. 1. 12-27 with a compact, aiming for 6:30 2. P2C with Zipp 303 front, 404 back |
| 2010-03-08 6:37 PM in reply to: #2715219 |
| Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread PennState - 2010-03-08 5:32 PM Bryan, my guess is you would be around 5:10 on the bike at LP... so yes 11-23 would make sense for you. Yeah, that's why I though your analysis was spot on, Fred. ...and I agree, IMLP likely runs 15-20min slower than AZ, but put me down for a 5:05, I climb well.  Edited by bryancd 2010-03-08 6:44 PM |
| 2010-03-08 7:00 PM in reply to: #2337428 |
| Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread Looking back again at my coach's results from 2007, he went 1:00, 5:20, 3:35 for a 10:04 finish. He had a very good IMLP run and he's a good runner. So now that we have vetted the bike, what say you all about your run, because that's where the rubber will hit the road. |
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| Master 1853 syracuse | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread bryancd - 2010-03-08 8:00 PM Looking back again at my coach's results from 2007, he went 1:00, 5:20, 3:35 for a 10:04 finish. He had a very good IMLP run and he's a good runner. So now that we have vetted the bike, what say you all about your run, because that's where the rubber will hit the road. so so much depends on the run, but i'll play, and I really hate talking about times so far out (but it is fun to do, so I should throw something out there as well), and I promise I will post each split prediction for myself night before the race...not such a big range as below. 3:38-3:50 |
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| Regular 92 Mississauga, Ontario | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread 1. Compact crank, 12-27; expect 6:00 to 6:15 2. Cervelo S1 with either HED3s front and back, or a combination of Hed3 front/aero cover back, or deep (404 style) front and HEd3 back. |
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| Pro 3906 St Charles, IL | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread bryancd - 2010-03-08 7:00 PM Looking back again at my coach's results from 2007, he went 1:00, 5:20, 3:35 for a 10:04 finish. He had a very good IMLP run and he's a good runner. So now that we have vetted the bike, what say you all about your run, because that's where the rubber will hit the road. Bike - 5:20 to 5:40 ( 12-27 or 12-25, will pre-ride both on the course in June and see ) Run - 3:45 to 4:00 Though we'll have to see how recovery from my knee issue goes as well as how training is in the lead up to the race. I've uncorked a couple solid half IMs ( consistently well under 5:00 ). When I uncork a similar IM race execution, watch out. Might be IMLP 2010 is my time. I certainly plan on making it. |
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| Extreme Veteran 398 Sea Isle City, NJ | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread PennState - 2010-03-08 4:17 PM 1. I will stick with the 12-27 with 53/39 up front like last time. 6 hrs on the nose. Which brings me to my next topic of discussion... gearing and bikes... 1. Tell me what your gearing is and what you expect/hope to ride the course in? 2. What bike/wheels you are riding? For me: 1. 12-25 with a standard crank (53/39). I hope to ride 5:20. 2. I am riding a Cannondale Slice with Zipp 404s. 2. Cannondale Slice 09 hi mod with Blackwell 100mm front and back. |
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| Master 1471 Dunedin | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread I ain't no cyclist, but last year I was standing with some and watching riders come pass the oval and "fly over" the little bump between the oval and the olympic building (there's an announcer rigth at that sharp-ish corner and they said that's where a lot of people wiped out in '08)... They were saying that was a smart spot to get out of the saddle, just to keep momentum going, not because it's steep. yeats - 2010-03-08 11:06 AM To jackjack and pennstate, thanks for posting your thoughts on the bike course. I'll be referring back to these when I get to ride the course in June. Can't wait! jackjack, you said you didn't need to stand up on one of the climbs, but was there any point when you felt like you needed to get out of the saddle to finish a climb? That question is really to anyone who has ridden the course before. |
| 2010-03-09 7:32 AM in reply to: #2337428 |
| Master 1471 Dunedin | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread I'm sticking with my triple. I can't climb for $hit. Seriously. And, because of that I plan on going sub 8 hours on the bike. Ooooooooooooh yeah! For the marathon I'll be happy going under a 4:30 since I did a 4:06 in Philly (much flatter), but realistically, going under 5 for the marathon would be fine. If I hit a 1:10 or better on the swim then I have just about 2 hours of wiggle room. |
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| Master 1572 PA | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread PennState - 2010-03-08 5:17 PMWhich brings me to my next topic of discussion... gearing and bikes...1. Tell me what your gearing is and what you expect/hope to ride the course in?2. What bike/wheels you are riding?For me:1. 12-25 with a standard crank (53/39). I hope to ride 5:20.2. I am riding a Cannondale Slice with Zipp 404s. Compact. Though triples are my favorite! I will ride whatever my fitness is that day! 5:30, great! 6:00, great! 6:30, great! 7:00, great! 7:30, great! 8:00, great! 8:30, ouch, too much saddle time! My bike is a Felt. Can't remember what the wheels are...probably not the response of someone riding 5:30!  |
| 2010-03-09 10:39 AM in reply to: #2337428 |
| Pro 4608 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread It's bonus time at work and I think a little gift to myself is in order! I've been wanting a road bike for quite some time Any thoughts on the Cervelo S2? I can get an ureal deal on that one right now. |
| 2010-03-09 10:57 AM in reply to: #2714990 |
| Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread PennState - 2010-03-08 5:12 PM The over 6 hour is often women.I rode a 11-28 on compact and spent way to much time in my easiest gear in '08.For IM Canada last year, I looked at changing gearing on my bike and triple wouldn't fit the frame so I went with cheaper option, found a 10 speed 11-34 cassette made mostly for tandem bikes, and used a MTB derailuer which is 9 speed so shifting wasn't perfect..looked awesome on my Zipps. But that was a good option to get more gears riding more evenly with out spiking my power up all the hills, and I was able to spin up the hills and not burn out my legs. Despite being sick on the bike, I had a good run for me and I think having proper gearing helped.If I do IMLP in '11 as I'm planning I'll be using my 11-34 cassette again nless my cycling power improves a lot and/or my power/weight ratio improves. Monty - 2010-03-08 2:27 PMYou guys bring up a good point about gearing. I used a 12-27 the first time around and it worked great for me and my goals. Hoping to be a stronger cyclist this time around I am toying with the 11-23. I would like to cut at least a half hour off my bike time. I guess getting up there sometime in the spring and trying it will be the best determing factor. What is everyone else thinking? I am sure this has been hashed out already earlier in the thread, but I'm too lazy to go back and look. I have a few thoughts...If you plan on riding over 6 hours... you should ride a triple in front. Yes I'm dead serious.If you plan on 5:40-6 hours, consider a 12-27.If you plan on 5:20-5:40, then 12-25If you are under 5:20... yes, 11-23 is fine.Improper gearing is a huge problem at LP. If you have a big problem with the idea of a triple, then consider a compact crank and 12-27... but I'd still go with the triple. |
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