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Also tried to hook up zwift...I have a wahoo cadence/speed sensor but still need to buy a ANT+ stick or dongle for computer I think. Does anyone know if you need a specific one or does anyone work?

Any ANT+ dongle should work. Cheapest one I've seen in the Suunto from MEC.

is this it?

http://www.mec.ca/product/5023-200/suunto-move-stick-mini/?Ntk=productsearch_en_q32008&h=10&q=suunto%2Bant

It's great you've found an LBS that is working with you.  That's a big part of it.  When you do find one that works, be sure to drop off a six-pack in appreciation

There's lots of potential issues here, and what it comes down to is largely personal preference and what works for you.  That being said, there is some science involved.  Make sure you measure your sit bones.  There's lots of videos on how to do that, and depending on the method, it can get a little personal.  A few years go, the den of inquity known as Slowtwitch ran a "saddle tour" at a bunch of shops.  You can try contacting those shops to try to duplicate that experience.  My wife and I both did it; for me, in reinforced what I already knew, and for my wife, it caused a $150 purchase of a Cobb V FLow Max.  Slowtwitch also has a series of articles on saddle theory that are interesting to read.  Cobb also has a nifty article on women's saddles, as does Total Women's Cycling.  

I personally ride an ISM Adamo Prologue; for me, fiddling with saddles was a necessity due to major numbness issues that were ruining my wife and I's intimate time, and going to my Adamo fixed that.  When I was having issues, I searched a bunch of forums (here, Slowtwitch, Weight Weenies, etc) to find similar problems and what solutions others have found, and went from there.

Checking your bike fit never hurts either.  Your sit bones should pivot on the ears of the saddle, whether you are sitting upright or down in the drops or aero. Cervelo's illustrations and articles illustrate it perfectly.   For me, that means the saddle is about as far back as it will go - on both my road bike and my tri bike, so my fitment position in terms of saddle-bars-bottom bracket is, in a word, non-traditional.  My tri saddle is a degree or two nose-down, while my road saddle is dead level.  I tried a nose-up setup on my tri saddle, and it was great for up-right and in-the-hoods cycling, but anything else made that setup unpleasant.  Even an ideal saddle can be a painful proposition with an improper placement, angle, or height.

There's a few other things:

• Wear good cycling shorts, or preferably bibs.  There's a world of difference between a $30 pair and my $100+ Desoto bibs.  I do have a few pairs of cheap shorts, but they really aren't worth it; here is one place where spending two or three times the money does actually get you two or three times the quality.
• Chamois cream helps tremendously with any chafing issues.  I don't bother on rides of less than an hour, but anything over that and the cream comes out.
• Trainers suck.  I have no issues going for 4+ hour rides, but the constant, dynamic shifting balance of the road is very different from the static pressure of the trainer.  I just don't ride the trainer over 2.5 hours, period.  It's soul-sucking and painful after that amount of time. I also don't sit in aero on the tri bike on the trainer unless I really have to; the same position I sat in for 5+ hours at IMWI is untenable after 40 minutes on the trainer; my road bike sits on the trainer instead.
• Take a break.  This recommendation was made to me and it flash of insight moment on my part.  On the trainer you are constantly pedaling and there's no coasting or stretching - so add some.  At then end of an interval or whatever, stand and stretch your hamstrings and calves, taking the pressure off your bones.  Go refill your water bottle.  On the road, there's very few instances when you're going to spend 2+ hours in the saddle constantly peddling, so if you want to take a break, do so.
• Vary your workouts.  For me, nothing is worse than zone 2 work on the trainer; as counter-intuitive as it is, the mental effort required for long trainer days is just too high for me.  So, instead, I'll go with something shorter and more intense. If my plan calls for a 2.5 hour aerobic effort, I'll do Sufferfest Blender instead.  3 or 3.5 hour effort - time to bring out ISLAGIATT.  Steady-state effort is fun for the road, but on the trainer, I like to keep it on the intensive side.  

Bruised sitbones aren't a bad thing.  Going to my Adamo involved a two-week period of sore bones (but no numbness!) and get re-acclimated to the trainer after I fell off the wagon in November was another period of sore sitbones.  

Sorry I can't be more helpful.  Good luck! 

It's great you've found an LBS that is working with you.  That's a big part of it.  When you do find one that works, be sure to drop off a six-pack in appreciation

There's lots of potential issues here, and what it comes down to is largely personal preference and what works for you.  That being said, there is some science involved.  Make sure you measure your sit bones.  There's lots of videos on how to do that, and depending on the method, it can get a little personal.  A few years go, the den of inquity known as Slowtwitch ran a "saddle tour" at a bunch of shops.  You can try contacting those shops to try to duplicate that experience.  My wife and I both did it; for me, in reinforced what I already knew, and for my wife, it caused a $150 purchase of a Cobb V FLow Max.  Slowtwitch also has a series of articles on saddle theory that are interesting to read.  Cobb also has a nifty article on women's saddles, as does Total Women's Cycling.  

I personally ride an ISM Adamo Prologue; for me, fiddling with saddles was a necessity due to major numbness issues that were ruining my wife and I's intimate time, and going to my Adamo fixed that.  When I was having issues, I searched a bunch of forums (here, Slowtwitch, Weight Weenies, etc) to find similar problems and what solutions others have found, and went from there.

Checking your bike fit never hurts either.  Your sit bones should pivot on the ears of the saddle, whether you are sitting upright or down in the drops or aero. Cervelo's illustrations and articles illustrate it perfectly.   For me, that means the saddle is about as far back as it will go - on both my road bike and my tri bike, so my fitment position in terms of saddle-bars-bottom bracket is, in a word, non-traditional.  My tri saddle is a degree or two nose-down, while my road saddle is dead level.  I tried a nose-up setup on my tri saddle, and it was great for up-right and in-the-hoods cycling, but anything else made that setup unpleasant.  Even an ideal saddle can be a painful proposition with an improper placement, angle, or height.

There's a few other things:

• Wear good cycling shorts, or preferably bibs.  There's a world of difference between a $30 pair and my $100+ Desoto bibs.  I do have a few pairs of cheap shorts, but they really aren't worth it; here is one place where spending two or three times the money does actually get you two or three times the quality.
• Chamois cream helps tremendously with any chafing issues.  I don't bother on rides of less than an hour, but anything over that and the cream comes out.
• Trainers suck.  I have no issues going for 4+ hour rides, but the constant, dynamic shifting balance of the road is very different from the static pressure of the trainer.  I just don't ride the trainer over 2.5 hours, period.  It's soul-sucking and painful after that amount of time. I also don't sit in aero on the tri bike on the trainer unless I really have to; the same position I sat in for 5+ hours at IMWI is untenable after 40 minutes on the trainer; my road bike sits on the trainer instead.
• Take a break.  This recommendation was made to me and it flash of insight moment on my part.  On the trainer you are constantly pedaling and there's no coasting or stretching - so add some.  At then end of an interval or whatever, stand and stretch your hamstrings and calves, taking the pressure off your bones.  Go refill your water bottle.  On the road, there's very few instances when you're going to spend 2+ hours in the saddle constantly peddling, so if you want to take a break, do so.
• Vary your workouts.  For me, nothing is worse than zone 2 work on the trainer; as counter-intuitive as it is, the mental effort required for long trainer days is just too high for me.  So, instead, I'll go with something shorter and more intense. If my plan calls for a 2.5 hour aerobic effort, I'll do Sufferfest Blender instead.  3 or 3.5 hour effort - time to bring out ISLAGIATT.  Steady-state effort is fun for the road, but on the trainer, I like to keep it on the intensive side.  

Bruised sitbones aren't a bad thing.  Going to my Adamo involved a two-week period of sore bones (but no numbness!) and get re-acclimated to the trainer after I fell off the wagon in November was another period of sore sitbones.  

Sorry I can't be more helpful.  Good luck!