Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread (Page 65)

For one of the few times ever, I mostly followed my Plan and as a result my SBR proportions are balanced.  For the average athlete, your Run should be .2 of your Bike.  In other words, for every 100 miles you bike - you should Run 20 miles.  Personally, I'd rather spend a majority of my time running and swimming, but that would not be beneficial to completing an Ironman . 

ckunst

Posted 2011-06-02 10:31 AM (#3528365 - in reply to #3098185) Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread

Member Posts: 13 Location: Grant, MI Offline

As I really am a "beginner triathlete" I have a question that I hope doesn't sound too stupid.  I am doing my first HIM this weekend and need to make a decision on what to wear.  My concern is for comfort on the bike leg.  I was planning on wearing my bike shorts (which I have used for my long rides and still experience discomfort by the end of the ride) and then switch to running shorts.  But I have learned that there won't be anywhere to change between legs, so now am not sure.  If I swim, bike, and run in thick padded bike shorts, will that be OK to ride with a thick wet pad and then also use it for the run, or am I better off wearing thinner padded tri shorts and just suffer on the bike?  Also, in desperation I have ordered a DeSoto seat pad.  If that arrives in time, is there any reason to not put it on for this weekend?  Any advice will be appreciated. ----- One step at a time

Mate - same question that i had 12mths ago when i did my first HIM (or tri for that matter).  I bought a pair of compression shorts - 2XU.  They have a tiny wee pad.  The go perfectly under the wetsuit, then you can throw a pair of cycling shorts on top (bib or regular), then running shorts on top for the run..   Easy...   You wear them from start to finish and no one gets to see you crown jewels....

I heard a story of a guy at IMLP one year who had only his birthday suit on.  So when he was stripped by the strippas - he had to run the 1/4 mile to T1 with things dangling ever where...  EEEEKKK.  Wonder if you could get arrested.  That would be a F`ed up way to DNF!

ckunst, good question.  First and foremost before I get to any of the chamois issues, have you had your bike properly fit from a bike shop?  Poor bike/tri short and lots of saddles can cause issues but it has been my experience and general understanding that the majority of discomfort on the bike comes from a poor or nonexisting bike fit.  So if you haven't gotten one yet, get one, and if you have gotten one, I might suggest checking out another shop for a fit.  They are totally worth whatever they make you pay, I guarantee that.  Best time to do it, at this point, is right after this race so your legs get used to the position for the rest of your training.

Now to the current situation.  Do not swim, bike, and run in bike shorts.  Not only will you lose a vast amount of skin but there is no way you can run well in bike shorts, it will start to throw your gait off and everything.  As a few others have said, if you're going to have discomfort you might as well have it in the tri shorts.  I've learned discomfort is discomfort no matter what you're wearing and that's part of the game of triathlon some days.  Besides, it's a race and things go numb and pain is overcome lots of times in races because your mind is more focused.  Depending on your course you might have the ability to come out of aero or out of the saddle enough to relieve the discomfort at times.

To the seat pad. Unless you can ride on the seat pad beforehand I wouldn't use it for the race.  Also, and this is just from what I've read and heard at bike shops, seat pads tend to make discomfort worse over the long-haul because there is more time for 'everything' to sink in and this creates more contact pressure and potentially more 'hot-spots'.  This is the reason so many bike saddles are hard, hard, hard.  The more padding there is the more the padding can shift and move when you shift and move, you don't want this out of a saddle, you want it more rigid so contact pressure is always consistent and not moving. Thing of it this way, a hard saddle will never rub in different places because it doesn't move, a pad can squish and shift with you so it can rub more places. This is a subjective matter though, I'm sure some will disagree.

Hope this helps.

Ouch.  I've been in similar situations, it took me a few days for the 'shock' to wear off then I was just sore for a week or so.  Heal up and don't do more than you need to.  Remember, under-trained is better than over-trained especially when hurt.  And if it was me, I'd be walking my bike down the rest of my training!

blackchr05 - 2011-06-02 8:31 AM

ckunst

Posted 2011-06-02 10:31 AM (#3528365 - in reply to #3098185) Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread

Member Posts: 13 Location: Grant, MI Offline

As I really am a "beginner triathlete" I have a question that I hope doesn't sound too stupid.  I am doing my first HIM this weekend and need to make a decision on what to wear.  My concern is for comfort on the bike leg.  I was planning on wearing my bike shorts (which I have used for my long rides and still experience discomfort by the end of the ride) and then switch to running shorts.  But I have learned that there won't be anywhere to change between legs, so now am not sure.  If I swim, bike, and run in thick padded bike shorts, will that be OK to ride with a thick wet pad and then also use it for the run, or am I better off wearing thinner padded tri shorts and just suffer on the bike?  Also, in desperation I have ordered a DeSoto seat pad.  If that arrives in time, is there any reason to not put it on for this weekend?  Any advice will be appreciated. ----- One step at a time

Mate - same question that i had 12mths ago when i did my first HIM (or tri for that matter).  I bought a pair of compression shorts - 2XU.  They have a tiny wee pad.  The go perfectly under the wetsuit, then you can throw a pair of cycling shorts on top (bib or regular), then running shorts on top for the run..   Easy...   You wear them from start to finish and no one gets to see you crown jewels....

I heard a story of a guy at IMLP one year who had only his birthday suit on.  So when he was stripped by the strippas - he had to run the 1/4 mile to T1 with things dangling ever where...  EEEEKKK.  Wonder if you could get arrested.  That would be a F`ed up way to DNF!

I too am doing my first Full at IMLP. I like this idea of wearing the tri shorts for all three disciplines. 2 questions... My DeSoto tri shorts might have a little more padding than your 2XU shorts. I wore them for a HIM without a problem. Transition time is not an issue for me, so I have a choice between changing into dry bike shorts or adding them over my tri-shorts? Also what is the reason for putting running shorts over the tri shorts?

i heard the story of no clothed man at LP as well.

LP will be my first IM.

Im planning on wearing my bike shorts during the swim under wetsuit, stick extra chamois in after swim, bike, then change into running shorts for the run.

HIM i used a tri suit with small chamois and did not change.

8 weeks to go! woohooo!!!!!

Hi DD - No reason to put running shrots above 2XU compression shorts - sometimes i do, sometimes i don`t.  I put bike shorts over the 2XU compression shorts for padding.  I just see 2XU compression shorts as an extra layer of skin.

Rev 3:  30% chance of thunderstorms are Rev 3 on Sunday.  High of only 68oF (which i guess is good for quick (relative) times but i was hoping for a heat fest just in case Placid has a mini heat wave in 7 weeks)...  Just booked another trip to Placid in 3 weeks (wedding planning and training).  I kinda like it there.

Yeah, I've been tapering a whopping 4 days for my HIM now... and I'm going out of my mind.  Not, errr..., sure how I'm gonna be with TWO WEEKS leading up to Placid. 

I just snapped a pic of myself with my i-Phone.  Man I look as crazy as I feel...

**Pity Party**

Still too sore to train. Hell, too sore to sleep well.

Effity, eff, eff!!

I did it last night. Put on my tri shorts and tri top. Hosed off (Cold water) brrrrrr. Quick towel dry and put on my bike shorts over the tri shorts. Rode about an hour. umm... my junk felt all smashed together. After the ride I was doing a brick. Took off the bike shorts and then put running shorts over the tri shorts. It all felt wrong. I like the idea though. I think I'll get a pair of swimming jammers. (no pad) and put them on underneath for the whole race.