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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I've been blue this week about some of my own stuff, but this really puts it in perspective, particularly since we have small kids also. Thanks for trusting us enough to share this. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm shifting this week from a swim focus (3X/week) to a run focus (3x/week). I'm currently running about an hour a week in two sessions, for a total distance of about 6 miles miles per week. Now that I'm going to be adding one more session and more miles, what is the best way to do it? Starting with the "rule" that I shouldn't increase weekly distance by more than 10%/week, should divide my current hour into three 20 minute sessions on different days and go from there? Also, as I add distance, is it better to add all the distance to one of the days and keep the other two short, or should I add to all of the sessions equally?Finally, is it a rule that I shouldn't run on consecutive days, to allow my body to recover from the pounding? I'd certainly appreciate any thoughts you more experienced folks have. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kuma - 2013-02-05 8:49 PM I'm shifting this week from a swim focus (3X/week) to a run focus (3x/week). I'm currently running about an hour a week in two sessions, for a total distance of about 6 miles miles per week. Now that I'm going to be adding one more session and more miles, what is the best way to do it? Starting with the "rule" that I shouldn't increase weekly distance by more than 10%/week, should divide my current hour into three 20 minute sessions on different days and go from there? Also, as I add distance, is it better to add all the distance to one of the days and keep the other two short, or should I add to all of the sessions equally?Finally, is it a rule that I shouldn't run on consecutive days, to allow my body to recover from the pounding? I'd certainly appreciate any thoughts you more experienced folks have. When training for my 1/2 mary I ran multiple days in a row...and many say the more you run, the better...I can't speak to what your training schedule is like etc., but as long as you aren't doing sprints etc., back to back...and take it fairly easy, I'd say go for it. Again, I defer to the experts. Also, when I was running back to back, I was not throwing in a bike workout too, so my legs generally felt fine. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Scott - my heart goes out to you thank you for sharing. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kuma - 2013-02-05 9:49 PM I'm shifting this week from a swim focus (3X/week) to a run focus (3x/week). I'm currently running about an hour a week in two sessions, for a total distance of about 6 miles miles per week. Now that I'm going to be adding one more session and more miles, what is the best way to do it? Starting with the "rule" that I shouldn't increase weekly distance by more than 10%/week, should divide my current hour into three 20 minute sessions on different days and go from there? Also, as I add distance, is it better to add all the distance to one of the days and keep the other two short, or should I add to all of the sessions equally?Finally, is it a rule that I shouldn't run on consecutive days, to allow my body to recover from the pounding? I'd certainly appreciate any thoughts you more experienced folks have. There are lots of "rules" but what's most important is what works for you. If you have been running twice a week for 30 minutes each, I think you are fine going to three 30 minute sessions. Given your background, here's what I would do: Week 1 - 30 min , 30 min , 30 min Week 2 - 30 min, 30 min, 40 min Week 3 - 35 min, 30 min, 45 min Week 4 - 40 min , 30 min , 55 min Essentially splitting the increased volume between two runs so you end up with a short, middle and long run. Also make sure that when you are adding volume you keep the runs aerobic in nature. For the purposes of developing run fitness what matters is the cumulative volume of your running, not the volume of any one run. Plus long runs create a big recovery debt so I find there to be very little utility in very long runs for tri preparation. Its also fine to run on consecutive days. If you are having leg / pain issues its likely a form problem, which can be corrected with some drill work. Generally my weeks are structured with middle distance run on Tue, recovery run on Wed, middle distance run on Thur, short T-run on Saturday and long run on Sunday. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2013-02-06 5:37 AM Scott - my heart goes out to you thank you for sharing. x2 |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Scott - Thank you for opening up like this. My heart felt so heavy when I read your story. Your wife and daughters are beautiful. I cannot begin to imagine the pain you carry around every day, but I am glad you find relief (albeit temporary) through training and racing. I am going to keep you, your wife, and your precious baby girl in my thoughts and prayers. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Scott that was awesome of you to share this. I am sure it was difficult to share but thank you. Our thoughts and prayers go up for you and your family. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks for sharing. I am sure it is still difficult to share or talk about, but I am glad to see you were eventually able to put one foot in front of the other and take something positive away from something so horrible in your life. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Front end drills in the pool and a recovery run.
The painter showed up with help today. Awesomeness. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Time trials in pool today. I'm pretty happy with my results, as they are an accurate reflection of the type of training sessions I'm doing right now. Lots of all out 25s in my training, and I think that helped with my 200 TT. My 800 TT didn't improve very much (6 sec), but I think I need to be swimming a lot more yardage to see big improvement there. No worries. I'm very happy and proud of myself. This run test tomorrow is a different story. I feel like I'm lacking confidence there. Plus, it has to be done on the treadmill.......EW. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks for the kind words. I used to blog, for myself not public, every single day so it was a way to get the pain out of my system. I times I get the urge like I did yesterday to just let it out. The month before her birthday 11/3 and her passing 3/1 are the toughest part of the year. For some people it's the holidays but I can compartmentalize those so my other children have good memories about them. 90 minutes on the trainer as 15 minute warmup, 60 minutes intervals, 15 minute cool down followed by 5 miles in Z1 on the treadmill. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() uhcoog - 2013-02-06 9:35 AM Front end drills in the pool Is that just a term for doing a combination of closed fist drill, catchup drill, one arm drills, etc? |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DDVMM - 2013-02-05 7:01 PM Scott - you have lived through my worst imaginable nightmare. You have a beautiful family. I will light a candle on March 1 for baby Emmie, a life taken way too soon. Thank you for sharing such a personal piece of your life with us. X2. I am so sorry. It is amazing how you have coped. My brother was killed in a car accident when he was 22 (this happened 12 years ago) and we still think of him every day. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Jen, find an indoor track to do the run test on. I have never done one on the treadmill as I think it could limit my test. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kr140.6 - 2013-02-06 11:13 AM DDVMM - 2013-02-05 7:01 PM Scott - you have lived through my worst imaginable nightmare. You have a beautiful family. I will light a candle on March 1 for baby Emmie, a life taken way too soon. Thank you for sharing such a personal piece of your life with us. X2. I am so sorry. It is amazing how you have coped. My brother was killed in a car accident when he was 22 (this happened 12 years ago) and we still think of him every day. I'm very sorry about your brother. When I was 22-ish a guy the same age died in a motorcycle accident. I didn't know him all that well but liked him. He was a ball buster in a funny way and being that way myself I gravitate to people like that. I did know a lot of his friends quite well so a group of us timed it so we would arrive at the wake together and go in as a group. For whatever reason I ended up first of our group in the receiving line. I didn't know it going in but he had crashed in the middle of the day, on a straight road with no traffic around. So his parents wanted to know why. Was he racing some random cyclist? Did he just get distracted.......Not knowing as I know how just tears you apart. So his mother was a really large Irish woman and when she saw me and didn't recognize me she grabbed me in a bear hug so tight it literally took my breath away and I could bench 400 pounds at the time. She was screaming and crying, "were you there? just tell me please........" I often think of that now because I just wanted out of there so badly. I just wanted to run. Part of me writes it off to being 22, wet behind the ears and not capable of the compassion that should have been shown. Another part doesn't cut myself nearly as much slack knowing what I know now. All of me wishes I had a do over and I wish there was a way to reach out to her now. Anyway long winded story but I'm sure your parents live it every day and always will. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() everlong - 2013-02-06 9:17 AM uhcoog - 2013-02-06 9:35 AM Front end drills in the pool Is that just a term for doing a combination of closed fist drill, catchup drill, one arm drills, etc?
Pretty much. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jarvy01 - 2013-02-06 9:55 AM This run test tomorrow is a different story. I feel like I'm lacking confidence there. Plus, it has to be done on the treadmill.......EW. carrie639 - 2013-02-06 11:29 AM Jen, find an indoor track to do the run test on. I have never done one on the treadmill as I think it could limit my test. I run faster with a lower heart rate on a track vs the treadmill. There's just something about my stride that's different on the treadmill. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() uhcoog - 2013-02-06 11:47 AM everlong - 2013-02-06 9:17 AM uhcoog - 2013-02-06 9:35 AM Front end drills in the pool Is that just a term for doing a combination of closed fist drill, catchup drill, one arm drills, etc? Pretty much. Thanks. I hadn't heard the term used before and wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on something. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() uhcoog - 2013-02-06 9:35 AM Ahhh yes I did those on Monday. Today is a 1 hour ride with emphasis on finishing the last 15 mins at the top of z2 bottom of z3.Front end drills in the pool and a recovery run.
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() everlong - 2013-02-06 11:48 AM jarvy01 - 2013-02-06 9:55 AM This run test tomorrow is a different story. I feel like I'm lacking confidence there. Plus, it has to be done on the treadmill.......EW. carrie639 - 2013-02-06 11:29 AM Jen, find an indoor track to do the run test on. I have never done one on the treadmill as I think it could limit my test. I run faster with a lower heart rate on a track vs the treadmill. There's just something about my stride that's different on the treadmill. Treadmills encourage poor form. Because the belt is moving beneath you the runner is "rewarded" when he or she incorporates additional vertical movement into the stride (when you bounce up high the treadmill continues to move under neath you). Too much time on the treadmill can cause a super bouncy stride that is really effective on the treadmill but does you no good on the road. Obviously we all have to use treadmills sometimes but I prefer the road to a treadmill. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() uhcoog - 2013-02-06 11:47 AM everlong - 2013-02-06 9:17 AM uhcoog - 2013-02-06 9:35 AM Front end drills in the pool Is that just a term for doing a combination of closed fist drill, catchup drill, one arm drills, etc?
Pretty much. These are drills that focus on the front active portion of you stroke as compared to the back end, recovery or body position. Generally they focus on creating a strong initial pull with a high elbow and an early vertical forearm. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() everlong - 2013-02-06 10:46 AM Ooh, Scott, that is every parent's nightmare, to lose a child. When my youngest was close to 5, his appendix ruptured. By the time they got him through ER and figured out what happened, he was a very sick little boy as the infectious material in the appendix was now in his abdominal cavity. The doctor said it was a very serious situation and he could have died. What a terrible ordeal for you and your family. I'm glad you and your wife got through it intact as a family. Each child is a blessing, and everything that happens in life happens for a reason even if we don't understand it. I am glad you have five beautiful daughters.kr140.6 - 2013-02-06 11:13 AM DDVMM - 2013-02-05 7:01 PM Scott - you have lived through my worst imaginable nightmare. You have a beautiful family. I will light a candle on March 1 for baby Emmie, a life taken way too soon. Thank you for sharing such a personal piece of your life with us. X2. I am so sorry. It is amazing how you have coped. My brother was killed in a car accident when he was 22 (this happened 12 years ago) and we still think of him every day. I'm very sorry about your brother. When I was 22-ish a guy the same age died in a motorcycle accident. I didn't know him all that well but liked him. He was a ball buster in a funny way and being that way myself I gravitate to people like that. I did know a lot of his friends quite well so a group of us timed it so we would arrive at the wake together and go in as a group. For whatever reason I ended up first of our group in the receiving line. I didn't know it going in but he had crashed in the middle of the day, on a straight road with no traffic around. So his parents wanted to know why. Was he racing some random cyclist? Did he just get distracted.......Not knowing as I know how just tears you apart. So his mother was a really large Irish woman and when she saw me and didn't recognize me she grabbed me in a bear hug so tight it literally took my breath away and I could bench 400 pounds at the time. She was screaming and crying, "were you there? just tell me please........" I often think of that now because I just wanted out of there so badly. I just wanted to run. Part of me writes it off to being 22, wet behind the ears and not capable of the compassion that should have been shown. Another part doesn't cut myself nearly as much slack knowing what I know now. All of me wishes I had a do over and I wish there was a way to reach out to her now. Anyway long winded story but I'm sure your parents live it every day and always will. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Obviously I'd love to run outside vs treadmill. This run will be done at 4 am. It's freezing and dark then. We also have more than a foot of snow on the ground and more on the way. Outside isn't happening. It's 4 am or not at all. With that said, how do I make it work on the treadmill? |
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