Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread (Page 68)

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My thoughts on special needs - have it stocked with anything you might need in case you need it, but don't stop if you don't have to.  Whether you agree with me or not has already been addressed by Gary - depends on our separate goals and motivations.

Hello again to the post. You all seem to train a lot and I have seen some numbers from those who posted and chatted about it. I with a few of you that the one thing that holds me back is life. I do not let my training get in the way of something for my son or wife. Some weeks that is hard, but keeps us all happy. My wife and my son know I need to swim so the last few weeks they have come to the pool with me and did thier own thing in the small pool. Since I do not have a lot of time some days. Does anyone have any good bike training tips. My run is ok, or I should say I am happy with my run times right now and know how to work that. My swim is my swim. I can get form A to B not real fast but I am getting better. I feel I can do the most for myself this year in the bike. If anyone has any ideas for a person who at times does not have a lot of time as in I have about 1.5 hours a day for my bike, let me know.

Also it as asked once before but there have been no answers. Does anyone have any information on the kids run that happens the Thurs before the race. Just basic info would be nice. My son who is 7 wants to do it, but I am not sure how long it is or anything else about it. I am sure it is fun, but looking for info.

I did the kids race in 2004 with my daughter, it was a 5k and there were more adults than kids (at that time they were calling it a fun run not a kids race).  Since then they have shortened the distance and attached the "kids race" title to it.  I do not know the exact distance now but I think that they have kept it limited to within the city park, maybe like a 1K.  A 7-year old is who this is geared towards, he will not be the youngest kid running. 

• edawno - 2011-03-22 1:02 PM

Hello again to the post. You all seem to train a lot and I have seen some numbers from those who posted and chatted about it. I with a few of you that the one thing that holds me back is life. I do not let my training get in the way of something for my son or wife. Some weeks that is hard, but keeps us all happy. My wife and my son know I need to swim so the last few weeks they have come to the pool with me and did thier own thing in the small pool. Since I do not have a lot of time some days. Does anyone have any good bike training tips. My run is ok, or I should say I am happy with my run times right now and know how to work that. My swim is my swim. I can get form A to B not real fast but I am getting better. I feel I can do the most for myself this year in the bike. If anyone has any ideas for a person who at times does not have a lot of time as in I have about 1.5 hours a day for my bike, let me know.

Another similar one is common to Jorge's winter cycling plan:

10 min warmup, 6x4 @ 110% FTP w/ 45 secs rest (~65% FTP) between each, 10 min cd.

This is really hard.  With the small amount of rest, if you overdo it on the first set, you'll get progressively slower on each one.  Your goal should be to maintain them all at the same level and maybe go a little harder on the last one.  It requires a lot of discipline (and an accurate, recent FTP test).

I started a thread about this a while back....

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=241032&start=1

Yeah, very expensive...

For you Im junkies, I would quess CDA is more expensive than most based on how much everything goes up the week of the race.  Is this true or do other races do this also?  I think if this all works out for me I may be leaning towards some non IM branded races - great flordian and Silverman.  However, I still have to see how I feel in May. 

For those who have done a non branded race what was your opinions vs a branded race?

CdA is better than many, cost-wise.  Ask Josh about IMLP

I did a non-branded HIM last summer and found the level of support (# of aid stations, etc) to be lower than a WTC race.  But I don't think you can really generalize - it depends on who is organizing it.  I've heard great things about Rev3.

I concur with Gary, although I'm a Jack Daniels man.

Makers Mark on the rocks, here.

Slightly different genre, but I'll take a Crown, neat.

Regarding coke/booze and steak/ketchup --- There's a airline exec/lobbiest who eats at a local Ruth's Chris every friday night, where I sometimes end up for happy hour.  Without fail, he get's the petite filet and then SMOTHERS it in ketchup.  I want to scream every time I see it.  Seems like such a waste, given that most ketchup has high fructose corn syrup in it.

A "rustic" 2 bedroom townhome 1.5 miles from the start at IMLP was $4G for 4 days, if that makes you feel better.

I know I have. 

Look I value both of your opinions and experience.  But for a first time IM athlete like me, after the third post on fructose vs glucose vs kool-aid I begin to glaze over.  Maybe as my tri career gets more advanced I'll begin to take these things more seriously.  But for those of us who's goal it is to finish before midnight... it honestly just gets a bit old. 

Besides, IMO the general IM race forum is a better place for stuff like this.  This thread should focus on CdA.

Stick around Rocket Man.

Believe what you may - every time it happens I get half a dozen PMs encouraging me to fight the good fight, reminding me that when you wrestle a pig you get dirty, etc.  I don't know enough to think those things about you and hadn't (until now) made this personal about you -- I've offered to buy the first beer in CdA -- I just think you're arguments are flawed... a lot.  It so happens those arguments often surface when you respond to my posts.  I have no problem with that, and can link to countless threads where I've engaged in healthy debate with others on this site and kept it about the issues.

Your condescending comments like "wow you can use a search engine" are typical when you get backed into a corner.  And this time I'm taking the bait.

The discussion stands for itself whether your PB perform comments were about taste or also (and primarily) included what I believe I've shown to be uninformed psuedu-science and then personal attacks when you were called out for it.  You went on a fructose attack and I simply pointed out that there is plenty of evidence for it's benefits, and that in fact your drink contains it.  I admit it snowballed from there while your arguments deflected from my points (I can't find one response directly to an argument I made) and attacked my credibility.

I've tried really hard to stick to the arguments here.  I didn't (until now) go into your blog where you admit to being 10 watts over your target on a long ride despite soft pedaling most of the way home, and then conclude that PB perform doesn't work for you because you ran out of gas.  My goal hasn't been to discredit you by attacking you... it was to show that your conclusions were flawed and not supported by the available data out there (which I do not apologize for existing on the internet - I think reasonable people can discern between good info on the web and bologna on the web).

I'm sorry (not really) you feel the need to take your ball and go home.  <---- that (and maybe the preceeding paragraph) was the first comment I've made that was about you, not about the arguments here.  As for p!$$sing contests - I offer up my skills below from a run last winter:

And I'll still buy anyone on this thread the first drink (as long as it's not a Pepsi mixer) in CdA.

First dry run this weekend.  An Olympic.  Nervous.  Feeling sore.  Never raced without a taper before.  Gonna be a hot one in Austin.  Ugh!     

Odd question.  Does anyone have an accelerated video of the CdA bike route?  I looked on you tube and did not find one. 

I agree.

After 6 IM's I can tell you that there is more than one way to get from the sign-up line to the finish line.  What may work great one year may not work the following year.  As with most things in life, anyone that says that their way is to only way is probably wrong.  And before y'all get your panties is a bunch I'm not saying that anyone in this argument has claimed to be all knowing.  In order to say that I would have had to actually read everything that has been written, and I have not, nor do I plan to.

Good luck!!!

Josh - You look a little de-hydrated.  Are you drinking enough water?

Being a scientist-practitioner myself, I value informed opinions. If Rocketman can defend his points I want to know what he has to say. Same goes for Josh. If you can't defend all or part of what you have to say, I think we can be big enough to accept criticism where its warranted.

Many times I throw stuff out there that I am not able to defend other than via anecdote (e.g., switch to coke late in the run and don't change back). However, call me out if I do and I will admit it. The thing is there is a base of information out there,  albeit relatively new, and we should try to use it to our collective advantage.

Yes your urine is too dark. I know that because I did some renal research 8)