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2012-07-23 4:30 PM
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Learning to drive with the hips, and pull primarily with the lats but also back with the whole body as you rotate to the other side ... recruits so many of the big muscle groups to help. Much easier, more efficient, and ultimately much more powerful too.

Please explain - in the context of swimming - how to drive with your hips. I don't remember if that was covered in Shiela's book and I'm too lazy to look it up.

All good swimmers have either (mostly) a hip-driven freestyle or shoulder-driven. Shoulder is difficult--requires a lot more shoulder girdle flexibility and strength and more common amongst sprinters/short distance.

Less experienced swimmers tend to begin the stroke/initiate the catch primarily by just reaching their arm out. No no no no no. It initiates from the hip rotation. It's like reaching for something very high on a shelf ... you do just put your arm up, but you get the extra distance by turning your hip TOWARD the shelf.

Similarly, when you actually pull back, the power and motion should come primarily from the other hip rotating back to center line. You're not pulling your arm back; you're anchoring your arm in the water and pulling yourself forward with your whole body.

Thanks, pretty sure I do that. Sometimes.


2012-07-23 4:30 PM
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TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:22 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:20 AM

Yeah, I am guessing I am not using my whole body/core enough. I hate to admit but my lats aren't sore at all. Just the deltoids. 

Also, I don't really kick very much. I feel like I almost only use kicking as means for stability not propulsion. I'm sure that's a problem as well. 

I wouldn't worry any about your kick at this point. If they're not dragging and holding you back, they're fine.

As long as I am on the whine-train today I'm going for it. Swimming is so complicated! 

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2012-07-23 4:30 PM
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ukweeble - 2012-07-24 5:27 AM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-23 10:01 PM
ukweeble - 2012-07-23 3:58 PM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 8:04 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 2:51 AM

How should I structure my swims for the next 4 weeks if I am going to do another sprint tri?Obviously, once again my training won't be great. 4 weeks is not really enough time. Especially since I am still supposed to be taking it easy again this week. But, whatever.

I can go to the pool 2 times a week for sure, maybe 3. For an hour at a time. Ish. 

Warm up however you like. Throughout WU and main set, really every time you're in the pool, be very mindful of form, particularly as it applies to a vertical-forearm-wrist-hand, high-elbow pull. Pull back with your whole body, not just your arm.

Main set should be combos of (at most) 200s, but mostly 100s with a good dose of 50s and even 25s. Try to do them on the 2:00/100, or whatever interval gives you a few seconds rest but that you can still consistently make (barely, if at all make on the last few).

Some kind of cool-down.

My logs should give you a pretty good idea ... ugh, yes, I plan to be in the pool ... anyway, the last two MS for example:

2x (200 hard, 200 easy)
3x (100 hard, 100 easy)
3x (50 hard, 50 easy)
4x (25 hard, 25 easy)

12x100: 1-4 @1:50, 5-8 @1:45, 9-12 @1:40

Doubling Allen's workout main sets would be good too.

 

What you trying to say???

I'm doing the Oly and she gets to twice as much as me> Thats not fair. I'm going to swim til i drown in protest!!

She's saying your frog's not hard enough or, something like that. I think I mixed up the words. 

 

Also, this leads me to a question. What kind of insurance or documents does BT have or need in case someone takes some bit of training advice to heart and dies? 

I'm in the pool tommorrow and i'm going to show people just how hard this frog can get. I hope they don't throw me out.

By all means, wear a budgie smuggler. All the big frogs do.

2012-07-23 4:31 PM
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TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:30 PM
ukweeble - 2012-07-24 5:27 AM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-23 10:01 PM
ukweeble - 2012-07-23 3:58 PM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 8:04 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 2:51 AM

How should I structure my swims for the next 4 weeks if I am going to do another sprint tri?Obviously, once again my training won't be great. 4 weeks is not really enough time. Especially since I am still supposed to be taking it easy again this week. But, whatever.

I can go to the pool 2 times a week for sure, maybe 3. For an hour at a time. Ish. 

Warm up however you like. Throughout WU and main set, really every time you're in the pool, be very mindful of form, particularly as it applies to a vertical-forearm-wrist-hand, high-elbow pull. Pull back with your whole body, not just your arm.

Main set should be combos of (at most) 200s, but mostly 100s with a good dose of 50s and even 25s. Try to do them on the 2:00/100, or whatever interval gives you a few seconds rest but that you can still consistently make (barely, if at all make on the last few).

Some kind of cool-down.

My logs should give you a pretty good idea ... ugh, yes, I plan to be in the pool ... anyway, the last two MS for example:

2x (200 hard, 200 easy)
3x (100 hard, 100 easy)
3x (50 hard, 50 easy)
4x (25 hard, 25 easy)

12x100: 1-4 @1:50, 5-8 @1:45, 9-12 @1:40

Doubling Allen's workout main sets would be good too.

 

What you trying to say???

I'm doing the Oly and she gets to twice as much as me> Thats not fair. I'm going to swim til i drown in protest!!

She's saying your frog's not hard enough or, something like that. I think I mixed up the words. 

 

Also, this leads me to a question. What kind of insurance or documents does BT have or need in case someone takes some bit of training advice to heart and dies? 

I'm in the pool tommorrow and i'm going to show people just how hard this frog can get. I hope they don't throw me out.

By all means, wear a budgie smuggler. All the big frogs do.

Hahahahahahaha

2012-07-23 4:32 PM
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Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:30 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:22 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:20 AM

Yeah, I am guessing I am not using my whole body/core enough. I hate to admit but my lats aren't sore at all. Just the deltoids. 

Also, I don't really kick very much. I feel like I almost only use kicking as means for stability not propulsion. I'm sure that's a problem as well. 

I wouldn't worry any about your kick at this point. If they're not dragging and holding you back, they're fine.

As long as I am on the whine-train today I'm going for it. Swimming is so complicated! 

It is. It has more in common with ballet than biking or running. Even more difficult because of the foreign medium. (No, I'm not talking about me ... I'm talking about water).



2012-07-23 4:37 PM
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TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:32 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:30 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:22 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:20 AM

Yeah, I am guessing I am not using my whole body/core enough. I hate to admit but my lats aren't sore at all. Just the deltoids. 

Also, I don't really kick very much. I feel like I almost only use kicking as means for stability not propulsion. I'm sure that's a problem as well. 

I wouldn't worry any about your kick at this point. If they're not dragging and holding you back, they're fine.

As long as I am on the whine-train today I'm going for it. Swimming is so complicated! 

It is. It has more in common with ballet than biking or running. Even more difficult because of the foreign medium. (No, I'm not talking about me ... I'm talking about water).

I'm a ballet drop out. Age 5, two practices in, I hung up the tights for good. Broke my dear mothers heart.

2012-07-23 4:43 PM
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Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:37 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:32 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:30 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:22 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:20 AM

Yeah, I am guessing I am not using my whole body/core enough. I hate to admit but my lats aren't sore at all. Just the deltoids. 

Also, I don't really kick very much. I feel like I almost only use kicking as means for stability not propulsion. I'm sure that's a problem as well. 

I wouldn't worry any about your kick at this point. If they're not dragging and holding you back, they're fine.

As long as I am on the whine-train today I'm going for it. Swimming is so complicated! 

It is. It has more in common with ballet than biking or running. Even more difficult because of the foreign medium. (No, I'm not talking about me ... I'm talking about water).

I'm a ballet drop out. Age 5, two practices in, I hung up the tights for good. Broke my dear mothers heart.

Heh. I'm a ballet and Brownies um ... kick-out.

So I'm a little lively and disruptive. I'm sure this information shocks you.

Swimming is more like pole-vaulting, then ... underwater, repeatedly.

Pole vaulting underwater is not to be confused with drilling in the hot tub

2012-07-23 4:44 PM
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Actually it's funny, when I went down to visit my parents a while back my mom and I had a h2h. 

I was telling her that sometimes I wish that I would have taken some opportunities when I was younger. For instance, our HS track coach tried to get me to do XC and distance. It never occurred to me that it was because he thought I might be decent at it. I just though he was being nice or something.  Anyway, I had also told my mom that although I wished they would have pushed me a little, overall I am glad they let me make my own decisions. Since I have seen way too many of those overbearing parents making their kids do stuff they hate. 

She said, "Darn right you should be glad we didn't push you. You'd still be doing ballet!" 

Touche mom, touche! 

2012-07-23 4:45 PM
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TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:43 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:37 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:32 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:30 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:22 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:20 AM

Yeah, I am guessing I am not using my whole body/core enough. I hate to admit but my lats aren't sore at all. Just the deltoids. 

Also, I don't really kick very much. I feel like I almost only use kicking as means for stability not propulsion. I'm sure that's a problem as well. 

I wouldn't worry any about your kick at this point. If they're not dragging and holding you back, they're fine.

As long as I am on the whine-train today I'm going for it. Swimming is so complicated! 

It is. It has more in common with ballet than biking or running. Even more difficult because of the foreign medium. (No, I'm not talking about me ... I'm talking about water).

I'm a ballet drop out. Age 5, two practices in, I hung up the tights for good. Broke my dear mothers heart.

Heh. I'm a ballet and Brownies um ... kick-out.

So I'm a little lively and disruptive. I'm sure this information shocks you.

Swimming is more like pole-vaulting, then ... underwater, repeatedly.

Pole vaulting underwater is not to be confused with drilling in the hot tub

Jesus, you aren't making this any easier! You are making it harder, one might say. 

2012-07-23 4:55 PM
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Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:45 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:43 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:37 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:32 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:30 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:22 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:20 AM

Yeah, I am guessing I am not using my whole body/core enough. I hate to admit but my lats aren't sore at all. Just the deltoids. 

Also, I don't really kick very much. I feel like I almost only use kicking as means for stability not propulsion. I'm sure that's a problem as well. 

I wouldn't worry any about your kick at this point. If they're not dragging and holding you back, they're fine.

As long as I am on the whine-train today I'm going for it. Swimming is so complicated! 

It is. It has more in common with ballet than biking or running. Even more difficult because of the foreign medium. (No, I'm not talking about me ... I'm talking about water).

I'm a ballet drop out. Age 5, two practices in, I hung up the tights for good. Broke my dear mothers heart.

Heh. I'm a ballet and Brownies um ... kick-out.

So I'm a little lively and disruptive. I'm sure this information shocks you.

Swimming is more like pole-vaulting, then ... underwater, repeatedly.

Pole vaulting underwater is not to be confused with drilling in the hot tub

Jesus, you aren't making this any easier! You are making it harder, one might say. 

It's cool. I'm imagining you in a tutu and pointe shoes.



2012-07-23 5:03 PM
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TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:55 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:45 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:43 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:37 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:32 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:30 AM
TriAya - 2012-07-23 4:22 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-24 5:20 AM

Yeah, I am guessing I am not using my whole body/core enough. I hate to admit but my lats aren't sore at all. Just the deltoids. 

Also, I don't really kick very much. I feel like I almost only use kicking as means for stability not propulsion. I'm sure that's a problem as well. 

I wouldn't worry any about your kick at this point. If they're not dragging and holding you back, they're fine.

As long as I am on the whine-train today I'm going for it. Swimming is so complicated! 

It is. It has more in common with ballet than biking or running. Even more difficult because of the foreign medium. (No, I'm not talking about me ... I'm talking about water).

I'm a ballet drop out. Age 5, two practices in, I hung up the tights for good. Broke my dear mothers heart.

Heh. I'm a ballet and Brownies um ... kick-out.

So I'm a little lively and disruptive. I'm sure this information shocks you.

Swimming is more like pole-vaulting, then ... underwater, repeatedly.

Pole vaulting underwater is not to be confused with drilling in the hot tub

Jesus, you aren't making this any easier! You are making it harder, one might say. 

It's cool. I'm imagining you in a tutu and pointe shoes.

Now that sounds like a hot mess

2012-07-23 5:09 PM
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I did, however, quite enjoy Black Swan. Smile
2012-07-23 5:32 PM
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Awesome afternoon for the manatees, although i'm just a voyeur apparently.

 

I have no idea what I do on my swim but my elbow has started to bother, slight pain, me on some of my harder/longer workouts, pool workouts get your mind out of the gutter, thoughts?  I think I need to make Sheila's book my next no idea about form I just go...

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ebshot - 2012-07-23 1:36 AM I am exhausted.  I spent about 5 hours painting our shed.  Ugh.  The weather was perfect though, sunny and 70's.  I wanted to ride the trainer today but there is no way I am doing that now. 

I have a run on tap for tomorrow morning and it's my weekly weigh in day.  I hope to see the scale moving downward.

Good luck with the weigh in

I meant to say ditto but computer ran away!  I hate weighing in, haven't done so for ages, I just know if my jeans feel tight it's time to cut down, if not eat heartily!


Maybe I need to adopt your strategy...the scale wasn't too kind today.  Only down one pound this week but at least it's a loss.

I think I need diet help.  Usually I drop weight pretty fast but for some reason I am not this time.  I am counting my calories and upping my workouts.  Am I not eating enough?  Eating too many carbs?  My daily calories are in my logs and I usually eat about 50% carbs, 20% protein and 20% fat (yeah, I know that doesn't add up to 100, work with me here. ).  So, what do you think??

I find when I up my training I tend to plateau a bit quicker and it is because you're probably not eating enough.  Calories in vs calories out in theory is the way to go but I find upping the protein and cutting down the carbs makes that equation work quicker.  A pound down is actually a really steady rate of loss, slower it comes off slower it goes back on i find!

Stick with it.

2012-07-23 5:54 PM
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ebshot - 2012-07-23 1:36 AM I am exhausted.  I spent about 5 hours painting our shed.  Ugh.  The weather was perfect though, sunny and 70's.  I wanted to ride the trainer today but there is no way I am doing that now. 

I have a run on tap for tomorrow morning and it's my weekly weigh in day.  I hope to see the scale moving downward.

Good luck with the weigh in

I meant to say ditto but computer ran away!  I hate weighing in, haven't done so for ages, I just know if my jeans feel tight it's time to cut down, if not eat heartily!


Maybe I need to adopt your strategy...the scale wasn't too kind today.  Only down one pound this week but at least it's a loss.

I think I need diet help.  Usually I drop weight pretty fast but for some reason I am not this time.  I am counting my calories and upping my workouts.  Am I not eating enough?  Eating too many carbs?  My daily calories are in my logs and I usually eat about 50% carbs, 20% protein and 20% fat (yeah, I know that doesn't add up to 100, work with me here. ).  So, what do you think??

I find when I up my training I tend to plateau a bit quicker and it is because you're probably not eating enough.  Calories in vs calories out in theory is the way to go but I find upping the protein and cutting down the carbs makes that equation work quicker.  A pound down is actually a really steady rate of loss, slower it comes off slower it goes back on i find!

Stick with it.

Yes, excellent advice. I also find it better to try and get the majority of your carbs from a wide variety of vegetables rather than processed pasta. 

I sub in veggies for a lot of stuff like spaghetti squash instead of pasta noodles. 



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Asalzwed - 2012-07-23 6:54 PM
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ebshot - 2012-07-23 6:16 AM
jobaxas - 2012-07-23 2:39 AM
ukweeble - 2012-07-23 1:30 AM

ebshot - 2012-07-23 1:36 AM I am exhausted.  I spent about 5 hours painting our shed.  Ugh.  The weather was perfect though, sunny and 70's.  I wanted to ride the trainer today but there is no way I am doing that now. 

I have a run on tap for tomorrow morning and it's my weekly weigh in day.  I hope to see the scale moving downward.

Good luck with the weigh in

I meant to say ditto but computer ran away!  I hate weighing in, haven't done so for ages, I just know if my jeans feel tight it's time to cut down, if not eat heartily!


Maybe I need to adopt your strategy...the scale wasn't too kind today.  Only down one pound this week but at least it's a loss.

I think I need diet help.  Usually I drop weight pretty fast but for some reason I am not this time.  I am counting my calories and upping my workouts.  Am I not eating enough?  Eating too many carbs?  My daily calories are in my logs and I usually eat about 50% carbs, 20% protein and 20% fat (yeah, I know that doesn't add up to 100, work with me here. ).  So, what do you think??

I find when I up my training I tend to plateau a bit quicker and it is because you're probably not eating enough.  Calories in vs calories out in theory is the way to go but I find upping the protein and cutting down the carbs makes that equation work quicker.  A pound down is actually a really steady rate of loss, slower it comes off slower it goes back on i find!

Stick with it.

Yes, excellent advice. I also find it better to try and get the majority of your carbs from a wide variety of vegetables rather than processed pasta. 

I sub in veggies for a lot of stuff like spaghetti squash instead of pasta noodles. 


Thanks for all the advice guys.  I have eaten a ton of veggies today and really have been thinking about more protein and less carbs at meal time.  I think I just need to keep being mindful of what I am eating, trying to get more protein and up my workouts a bit.  I also am going to try to get in more good calories, not crap calories.
2012-07-23 6:31 PM
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Swim squad was evil - truly torturous!

FINS
200M FREE
200M (100 CATCH UP 2 SCULLS, 100 OTTER NO KICK)
200M FIST CATCH UP
200M (100M LEFT ARM BREATHE EVERY 3RD STROKE, OPP ARM BY SIDE, 100M RIGHT ARM DITTO)
200M (100M BACKSTROKE, 100 OTTER NO KICK)

NO FINS
4 SETS OF THE BELOW

1.300M FREESTYLE
2.4X25M (BAND SURVIVAL) - basically legs in bondage and go hell for leather to the end of the pool!
3.50m KICK BOARD

I missed the fourth set of the Band Survival.

Finish was 150m pull buoy breathe every 6 (missed this)
50m cool down (missed this)

So at the end I had done 2.7km - the Band Survival just about finished me, bring back the fly!

2012-07-23 7:01 PM
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ebshot - 2012-07-23 7:02 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-07-23 6:54 PM
jobaxas - 2012-07-23 5:33 PM
ebshot - 2012-07-23 6:16 AM
jobaxas - 2012-07-23 2:39 AM
ukweeble - 2012-07-23 1:30 AM

ebshot - 2012-07-23 1:36 AM I am exhausted.  I spent about 5 hours painting our shed.  Ugh.  The weather was perfect though, sunny and 70's.  I wanted to ride the trainer today but there is no way I am doing that now. 

I have a run on tap for tomorrow morning and it's my weekly weigh in day.  I hope to see the scale moving downward.

Good luck with the weigh in

I meant to say ditto but computer ran away!  I hate weighing in, haven't done so for ages, I just know if my jeans feel tight it's time to cut down, if not eat heartily!


Maybe I need to adopt your strategy...the scale wasn't too kind today.  Only down one pound this week but at least it's a loss.

I think I need diet help.  Usually I drop weight pretty fast but for some reason I am not this time.  I am counting my calories and upping my workouts.  Am I not eating enough?  Eating too many carbs?  My daily calories are in my logs and I usually eat about 50% carbs, 20% protein and 20% fat (yeah, I know that doesn't add up to 100, work with me here. ).  So, what do you think??

I find when I up my training I tend to plateau a bit quicker and it is because you're probably not eating enough.  Calories in vs calories out in theory is the way to go but I find upping the protein and cutting down the carbs makes that equation work quicker.  A pound down is actually a really steady rate of loss, slower it comes off slower it goes back on i find!

Stick with it.

Yes, excellent advice. I also find it better to try and get the majority of your carbs from a wide variety of vegetables rather than processed pasta. 

I sub in veggies for a lot of stuff like spaghetti squash instead of pasta noodles. 


Thanks for all the advice guys.  I have eaten a ton of veggies today and really have been thinking about more protein and less carbs at meal time.  I think I just need to keep being mindful of what I am eating, trying to get more protein and up my workouts a bit.  I also am going to try to get in more good calories, not crap calories.
I would also suggest to make sure you are adequately hydrated with as hot as it has been on east coast need to keep yourself hydrated, also helps with keeping you feeling full.
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Maybe I missed it but what is your current setup TJ?

 

The trusty steed is a 2003 Giant TCR Aero 2

The factory specs:

CranksetShimano 105, 39/53 teeth
PedalsNot included
Bottom BracketShimano BB-5500, 109.5mm spindle
BB Shell Width68mm English
Rear Cogs9-speed, 12 - 25 teeth
Chain1/2 x 3/32"

My tires are NM resistant (see prior goathead dialogue) so they are beefy and heavy, but they keep me from fixing flats every ride, which is what I was doing before I went with the armadillo/goo filled/lined set up

 

I guess it's either change hardware or ride more, or a little of both.  If it were me, I would leave the hardware alone and just keep chugging along.  I can only speak from my own, extensive, 3 solid years of cycling experience.

My first road bike was a triple 52/42/30 with a 12/24 casette,  At first I would use the "granny gear" on climbs but I eventually got to where I did not use it at all.  So basically I rode the 52/42 with the 12/24.  The 12/24 was only 8 speed so essentially I had a 16 speed bike.  I went from MOP cyclist to FOP with that setup in less then two years time.

In my opiniion you do not necessarily to ride hills ALL THE TIME to get better at hills.  But when you ride flats, ride HARD!  Cycling is not like running where you just want a bunch of easy miles in etc.  On flats I'm hammering away with smooth pedal strokes trying to maintain a very high speed.  On climbs I'm at high effort trying to get up that hill as fast as I can.  The only time I "recover" is just after the climb for a bit but before long I'm hammering away again as the sting is my legs wears off.  I don't know what kind of tires you have (the kind that go on hybrid bikes, cyclocross?) but I suggest road tires that are durable, yet have low rolling resistance.  I ride on some crappy roads at times but I use Continental Grand Prix 4000S tires.  They're not cheap, but well worth the investment.  They have a GP 4000 which is not the same as the GP 4000S.  I few online retailers will sell them in bunches of four to ten for $40 a tire.  Bike shops usually want $65 to $80 each for them.

Of course now I have a newer bike which has the compact 50/34 with the 11-25 cassette.  But I don't feel there's a huge difference in my overall bike performance based on the crank/cassette setup.  Most of it is the result of some serious T.I.T.S.

I will say this however, on my compact crank I am hardly ever on the small ring which makes shifting much easier than it used to be.   My last two sprint tri's were on a very hilly course, with the "dam" hill per my RR, and I was on the large chain ring the whole time.  So there's something to be said about the compact crank.

Not sure if this is helpful, but's it's all I've got!

Reece, I absolutely agree with working on the engine! I have noticed the hills I normally ride get steadily easier as I do more hills.  I've been trying to focus on pushing on the flats.  I need to get away from the Sunday cruise habit and push.  I'm hoping that Strava will push me to do that.

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Up and on the drainer at 5am today - think I was running a bit of a fever with my cold but sweated it out nicely.  Feel better for the 45mins of hell on wheels!  I figured if I do these workouts in the morning or lunchtime for running it just seems easier for me, if I put off until the evening I can ALWAYs find an excuse not to go!  Also means tonight I'm free to do spellings homework with Artemis!  Thought we'd make up some poems with the words today!

She won two awards at school yesterday for excellence in Art and Italian - so proud.   Here she is on the left with her BFF Willow.

 





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What you trying to say???

I'm doing the Oly and she gets to twice as much as me> Thats not fair. I'm going to swim til i drown in protest!!

She's saying your frog's not hard enough or, something like that. I think I mixed up the words. 

 Also, this leads me to a question. What kind of insurance or documents does BT have or need in case someone takes some bit of training advice to heart and dies? 

I'm in the pool tommorrow and i'm going to show people just how hard this frog can get. I hope they don't throw me out.

Ahh, hahahahaha. YOu show 'em how you HTFU (harden the frog up, of course)

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Yeah, I am guessing I am not using my whole body/core enough. I hate to admit but my lats aren't sore at all. Just the deltoids. 

Also, I don't really kick very much. I feel like I almost only use kicking as means for stability not propulsion. I'm sure that's a problem as well. 

I wouldn't worry any about your kick at this point. If they're not dragging and holding you back, they're fine.

As long as I am on the whine-train today I'm going for it. Swimming is so complicated! 

It is. It has more in common with ballet than biking or running. Even more difficult because of the foreign medium. (No, I'm not talking about me ... I'm talking about water).

I'm a ballet drop out. Age 5, two practices in, I hung up the tights for good. Broke my dear mothers heart.

I made it through one 8-week session. I didn't like it because it made me sweat.  If you had seen me at boot camp tonight...oh, how things have changed.  Really HTBU - hardened the Brie up. (but isn't Brie supposed to be soft??? It was my argument for many years, probably age 5 to 21)

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Up and on the drainer at 5am today - think I was running a bit of a fever with my cold but sweated it out nicely.  Feel better for the 45mins of hell on wheels!  I figured if I do these workouts in the morning or lunchtime for running it just seems easier for me, if I put off until the evening I can ALWAYs find an excuse not to go!  Also means tonight I'm free to do spellings homework with Artemis!  Thought we'd make up some poems with the words today!

She won two awards at school yesterday for excellence in Art and Italian - so proud.   Here she is on the left with her BFF Willow.

 

THat is fantastic! She is adorable.  I love seeing kids excited about school

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Yeah, I am guessing I am not using my whole body/core enough. I hate to admit but my lats aren't sore at all. Just the deltoids. 

Also, I don't really kick very much. I feel like I almost only use kicking as means for stability not propulsion. I'm sure that's a problem as well. 

I wouldn't worry any about your kick at this point. If they're not dragging and holding you back, they're fine.

As long as I am on the whine-train today I'm going for it. Swimming is so complicated! 

It is. It has more in common with ballet than biking or running. Even more difficult because of the foreign medium. (No, I'm not talking about me ... I'm talking about water).

I'm a ballet drop out. Age 5, two practices in, I hung up the tights for good. Broke my dear mothers heart.

I made it through one 8-week session. I didn't like it because it made me sweat.  If you had seen me at boot camp tonight...oh, how things have changed.  Really HTBU - hardened the Brie up. (but isn't Brie supposed to be soft??? It was my argument for many years, probably age 5 to 21)

Name a dance, any dance.  I did it.  Ballet, jazz, tap, gymnastics, highland dancing, baton twirling.  Frilly socks, sequined outfits, vaseline on the teeth, the works.  Quit it all as soon as I could. 

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