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jarvy01 - 2013-02-06 12:01 PM Obviously I'd love to run outside vs treadmill. This run will be done at 4 am. It's freezing and dark then. We also have more than a foot of snow on the ground and more on the way. Outside isn't happening. It's 4 am or not at all.

With that said, how do I make it work on the treadmill?

 

I try to find a run thought.  It might be "don't bounce", or "stay smooth", whatever.  Treadmills are necessary evils.  You'll have the days you can go outside, but work is work.  Keep your HR in the zone assigned regardless of the speed/distance.



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Analysis of data question:  I have been logging in my training activities here to BT since 1/1/10, andonly recently, (Nov. 2013) been collecting data with my Garmin 910.  I use the 910 to try and stay within my target HR zones, per my training plans, so I see the benefit of that use, but is there anything to be gained by looking at the historic data? 

I guess I can go back and look at a previous exercise to see what my ave HR was for a month ago, versus todays; or see what my average pace was for a bike or run exercise for a similar distance and route versus todays - is that about the extent of the historical datas usefulness?

Is there any other type of deeper analysis that can tell you if your fitness level is increasing/decreasing like a program that can complie a graph showing average swim/run/bike pace over time to see if you are getting faster?  Would be nice if there was, and it would link to Garminconnect.com

2013-02-06 1:54 PM
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jarvy01 - 2013-02-06 12:01 PM Obviously I'd love to run outside vs treadmill. This run will be done at 4 am. It's freezing and dark then. We also have more than a foot of snow on the ground and more on the way. Outside isn't happening. It's 4 am or not at all.

With that said, how do I make it work on the treadmill?

I had to do my run test on the treadmill because of the weather here. All I did was crank it as fast I could and adjust accordingly. The adjustment was typically speed increase toward the end of my mile. Just go.

2013-02-06 1:58 PM
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I beleive that things happen for a reason. I did my first Z1 run today; it will be an adjustment. But I get it. Then I stumbled on to an interesting article. Thought I would share.

http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/story/_/id/8894449/endurance-sports-ultradistance-triathlete-rich-roll-ultimate-self-remade-man

2013-02-06 2:35 PM
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jarvy01 - 2013-02-06 1:01 PM Obviously I'd love to run outside vs treadmill. This run will be done at 4 am. It's freezing and dark then. We also have more than a foot of snow on the ground and more on the way.

Shoveling is a great core workout.

2013-02-06 2:52 PM
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That's what I tell my husband, Scott. He needs that activity


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Well, just signed up for my first Oly on April 28.  I know it's not a big thing for those who do or are doing HIM, but it's a big step for me.
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luv2bhealthy - 2013-02-06 4:58 PM Well, just signed up for my first Oly on April 28.  I know it's not a big thing for those who do or are doing HIM, but it's a big step for me.

 

It's big.  It's the most painful jump out there IMO

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luv2bhealthy - 2013-02-06 5:58 PM Well, just signed up for my first Oly on April 28.  I know it's not a big thing for those who do or are doing HIM, but it's a big step for me.

Congratulations!

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ccmpsyd - 2013-02-06 2:58 PM

I beleive that things happen for a reason. I did my first Z1 run today; it will be an adjustment. But I get it. Then I stumbled on to an interesting article. Thought I would share.

http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/story/_/id/8894449/endurance-sports-ultradistance-triathlete-rich-roll-ultimate-self-remade-man

And the Z1 you use is equivalent to the Z2 that Rich Roll is talking about.

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cobratodd - 2013-02-06 1:39 PM

Analysis of data question:  I have been logging in my training activities here to BT since 1/1/10, andonly recently, (Nov. 2013) been collecting data with my Garmin 910.  I use the 910 to try and stay within my target HR zones, per my training plans, so I see the benefit of that use, but is there anything to be gained by looking at the historic data? 

I guess I can go back and look at a previous exercise to see what my ave HR was for a month ago, versus todays; or see what my average pace was for a bike or run exercise for a similar distance and route versus todays - is that about the extent of the historical datas usefulness?

Is there any other type of deeper analysis that can tell you if your fitness level is increasing/decreasing like a program that can complie a graph showing average swim/run/bike pace over time to see if you are getting faster?  Would be nice if there was, and it would link to Garminconnect.com

What your looking for is a trending decrease in pace and increase in power for the same HR over time.  E.g. in December you ran averaged an 8:30 min/mile at 145 bpm but in March you average 8:23. 



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kaburns1214 - 2013-02-06 9:06 PM

luv2bhealthy - 2013-02-06 5:58 PM Well, just signed up for my first Oly on April 28.  I know it's not a big thing for those who do or are doing HIM, but it's a big step for me.

Congratulations!

x2 I was just there last year! It will be an awesome experience!
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luv2bhealthy - 2013-02-06 4:58 PM Well, just signed up for my first Oly on April 28.  I know it's not a big thing for those who do or are doing HIM, but it's a big step for me.

Awesome! A big step is a big step regardless. Its all relative.

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kaburns1214 - 2013-02-06 8:08 PM
ccmpsyd - 2013-02-06 2:58 PM

I beleive that things happen for a reason. I did my first Z1 run today; it will be an adjustment. But I get it. Then I stumbled on to an interesting article. Thought I would share.

http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/story/_/id/8894449/endurance-sports-ultradistance-triathlete-rich-roll-ultimate-self-remade-man

And the Z1 you use is equivalent to the Z2 that Rich Roll is talking about.

Thanks for mentioning that.

2013-02-07 6:46 AM
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Run test done for the day.  I had to get up at 4 to get it done (along with a recovery ride with OLP).  I will be dragging this afternoon.  I struggled during the last interval so not sure if I paced the test properly?  Or is that the way it works?  Anyway, I'm glad it's done.  

I've put on around 5 lbs. since I made the dietary changes after the New Year.  Not sure what that's about but it sucks.  I think I'm going to have to toss the scale and not worry about it.  I'm seeing performance gains right now, and my health is improving, so that's all that's important. 

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jarvy01 - 2013-02-07 6:46 AM

I've put on around 5 lbs. since I made the dietary changes after the New Year.  Not sure what that's about but it sucks.  I think I'm going to have to toss the scale and not worry about it.  I'm seeing performance gains right now, and my health is improving, so that's all that's important. 

 

Awesome outlook!!

 

 



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jarvy01 - 2013-02-07 6:46 AM

I've put on around 5 lbs. since I made the dietary changes after the New Year.  Not sure what that's about but it sucks.  I think I'm going to have to toss the scale and not worry about it.  I'm seeing performance gains right now, and my health is improving, so that's all that's important. 

 

Awesome outlook!!

 

 

Thank you  It's really the only way to look at it because I'm not eating poorly.

I read that it's common for newly diagnosed Celiacs to gain weight.  It has something to do with the distress symptoms easing on the gluten-free diet.  The stomach starts to absorb everything from the food (fat, calories, nutrients, etc.) as it's healing.  I'm not making excuses, but I find this fact to be interesting and wonder if it's one of the reasons I've gained.  I've also added more fat to my diet, which could also be the reason.  The doctor told me to raise my HDL, and I'm hoping all the healthy fats I've added will do that.  Anyway, no worries.    

2013-02-07 7:56 AM
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I am exhausted.  IV bag of caffeine for the day?  Yup, I need that. 
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jarvy01 - 2013-02-07 7:56 AM I am exhausted.  IV bag of caffeine for the day?  Yup, I need that. 

For real.  I got in my tempo run this morning and have a trainer ride with tabatas later.  Me and the trainer are going to become VERY familiar with each other over the next few months.

 

 

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Jen toss the negatives ... you have been doing a ton of strength training, if I have seen your logs correctly.  Some of the weight gain is muscle gain.  You are gaining in performance and as long as you feel better (other than looking at the scale) that is whats important. 
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On a positive note, I have started my own diet this Monday with a friend of mine.  There is no point in my trying to be as disciplined as you guys have been, I am OK with little changes for now.  I am on day 4 of more responsible eating ... I have cut down some portions, cut out most additional salt, and have only had 1 1/2 cup of pop on Tuesday.  Very happy!  Its not much, but for me it is alot!



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jarvy01 - 2013-02-07 8:56 AMI am exhausted.  IV bag of caffeine for the day?  Yup, I need that. 
Hook me up too!
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carrie639 - 2013-02-07 8:08 AM

On a positive note, I have started my own diet this Monday with a friend of mine.  There is no point in my trying to be as disciplined as you guys have been, I am OK with little changes for now.  I am on day 4 of more responsible eating ... I have cut down some portions, cut out most additional salt, and have only had 1 1/2 cup of pop on Tuesday.  Very happy!  Its not much, but for me it is alot!

 

Baby steps.  I like it.  Why the salt though.  My opinion is that extra salt is the last thing any endurance athlete should really be worried about.

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I need some extra caffine too.

30 recovery ride on the trainer, 2100 yards in the pool, 2 mile recovery run on the dreadmill.

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 .... because I use excessive amounts of salt!  Salt is on just about everything, and lots of it.  My body also retains alot of water, part of it is DNA, part will be excessive salt.
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