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2013-07-15 6:49 PM in reply to: kaburns1214 |
Master 1832 Elgin, IL | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Chicago marathon is my next A race hoping for a huge time reduction. Tri's are pretty much done for the year for me and this experience training and racing just solidify that I am not ready for a full IM. I need to do a few more 1/2's to feel even remotely comfortable to sign up for an IM. I have to say this is sick twisted obsession because I am already thinking of which 70.3 to do next year! Probably Steelhead and maybe an early 70.3 as well. Racine while really close has a horrible bike ... Thump, thump, thump with all the cracks in the road for 56 miles! Thoughts on an early race that also fits with Steelhead? Miami is really early next year? New Orleans? |
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2013-07-15 6:51 PM in reply to: kaburns1214 |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by kaburns1214 Originally posted by ccmpsyd Originally posted by carrie639 Finally finished my rave report. Kind or wordy, but I guess all firsts are. Enjoy! I also want to thank everyone for all the support along the way, whether it was words of encouragement or tips for race day ... They were all used!!! http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/RaceLog/races-edit.asp?raceid=237... Nice Job Carrie! Way to give it out on the swim. How bumpy was the course for the bike ? Chris -- you looking at Muncie for 2014? I am looking at Muncie for 2014 (80% sure). Come join me, Chris! Nice job, Carrie! You did well and we are proud. |
2013-07-15 7:22 PM in reply to: jarvy01 |
Master 1832 Elgin, IL | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed For anyone considering Muncie I would offer these thoughts: Swim is beautiful and generally pretty flat, so pretty easy. Bike is super, super fast, even with the rough sections. The run is kinda pretty, but is hilly and very exposed to the sun. Huge disadvantage of this race: it is generally a VERY HOT race ... This year was an exception. Parking is really close. Course because it is closed to traffic (run and bike) which is awesome, makes it very difficult for family/spectators to get to. So don't expect a lot of fan support, but volunteers were awesome! As a comparison to Rev3 events, huge WTC advantage is amount of aid stations, variety and quantity of what's offered. Rev3 Knoxville had aid stations about every 2 miles, Muncie was at most every mile. |
2013-07-15 9:36 PM in reply to: carrie639 |
Extreme Veteran 828 North Shore, MA. | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Nice Job Carrie. I guess I am in taper town, which is a little horrifying but also a little exciting. I have learned many things over the last few months, hopefully they will be things I can carry forward to next season and beyond. From early on my training sucked. I had way too much going on to have ever completed the training the way I would have liked. Some of which I could have prevented, but there was also a biggie that smacked me out of the ballpark and I never saw it coming. I know I won't be happy with my time or performance, but at this point it is what it is. I'm already thinking about next year, is that weird? I think I would like to spend next season doing mostly shorter distances and a HIM. I really need to work on my speed again and I can't wait for LP to be done so I can focus on nutrition as I have some work to do there. I would like to switch coaches for next year and really go after it. Sorry, I am just rambling. I don't know what's the matter with my brain at the moment lol |
2013-07-15 9:47 PM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 490 Higganum, Connecticut | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Cheekymonkeys1: I am in a very similar situation in regards to my coaching program, I really regret sticking with it for 10 months, when I second guessed the program in January. It is what it is at this point and we have to make the best of what we have accomplished. There is next year to do it better and I hope it works out for you. Enjoy the ride this year and learn from it. Edited by cobratodd 2013-07-15 9:50 PM |
2013-07-15 10:13 PM in reply to: cobratodd |
Extreme Veteran 828 North Shore, MA. | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Todd, For me, I'm not sure it was the program I was following. I'm sure it is fine for some, just not for me and I take full responsibility for the training I didn't do / get to do. However, I think the actual coaching thing is more of a 'mismatch' at this point: I'm irritated, she isn't as responsive as I'd like yadda yadda yadda It's just niggly stuff. It'll all come out in the wash. |
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2013-07-16 9:04 AM in reply to: cheekymonkeys1 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by cheekymonkeys1 Nice Job Carrie. I guess I am in taper town, which is a little horrifying but also a little exciting. I have learned many things over the last few months, hopefully they will be things I can carry forward to next season and beyond. From early on my training sucked. I had way too much going on to have ever completed the training the way I would have liked. Some of which I could have prevented, but there was also a biggie that smacked me out of the ballpark and I never saw it coming. I know I won't be happy with my time or performance, but at this point it is what it is. I'm already thinking about next year, is that weird? I think I would like to spend next season doing mostly shorter distances and a HIM. I really need to work on my speed again and I can't wait for LP to be done so I can focus on nutrition as I have some work to do there. I would like to switch coaches for next year and really go after it. Sorry, I am just rambling. I don't know what's the matter with my brain at the moment lol
FYI your brain won't function correctly until one to two weeks post IMLP. |
2013-07-16 9:09 AM in reply to: uhcoog |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by uhcoog Originally posted by cheekymonkeys1 Nice Job Carrie. I guess I am in taper town, which is a little horrifying but also a little exciting. I have learned many things over the last few months, hopefully they will be things I can carry forward to next season and beyond. From early on my training sucked. I had way too much going on to have ever completed the training the way I would have liked. Some of which I could have prevented, but there was also a biggie that smacked me out of the ballpark and I never saw it coming. I know I won't be happy with my time or performance, but at this point it is what it is. I'm already thinking about next year, is that weird? I think I would like to spend next season doing mostly shorter distances and a HIM. I really need to work on my speed again and I can't wait for LP to be done so I can focus on nutrition as I have some work to do there. I would like to switch coaches for next year and really go after it. Sorry, I am just rambling. I don't know what's the matter with my brain at the moment lol
FYI your brain won't function correctly until one to two weeks post IMLP. Why? |
2013-07-16 9:18 AM in reply to: jarvy01 |
Expert 1481 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed 500 yard swim as a warmup and then a 5 mile run. Squeaking in what training I can but once the house stuff is done I'm looking to kick it back up. I'm just a nicer person when I'm training. When I don't have that release it wears on me. I have no idea what I'm going to do next. Part of me just wants to go into base earlier than usual and not race again until next year. Another part wants to just do a fall century. Another wants to do a marathon but if I do the goal is sub 3:25 to qualify for Boston. Really not sure. If I do the century I may do the 148 mile Harpoon B2B next June in place of an HIM. I was planning on going IM in 2014 but I'm thinking the way this year got broken up I'm better served waiting until 2015 but I could do an early spring marathon, the B2B 148 and there's a 3 mile Boston Harbor swim and then I could do Beach to Battleship in October. Choice are awesome and evil. |
2013-07-16 9:34 AM in reply to: jarvy01 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by jarvy01 Originally posted by uhcoog Why? Originally posted by cheekymonkeys1 Nice Job Carrie. I guess I am in taper town, which is a little horrifying but also a little exciting. I have learned many things over the last few months, hopefully they will be things I can carry forward to next season and beyond. From early on my training sucked. I had way too much going on to have ever completed the training the way I would have liked. Some of which I could have prevented, but there was also a biggie that smacked me out of the ballpark and I never saw it coming. I know I won't be happy with my time or performance, but at this point it is what it is. I'm already thinking about next year, is that weird? I think I would like to spend next season doing mostly shorter distances and a HIM. I really need to work on my speed again and I can't wait for LP to be done so I can focus on nutrition as I have some work to do there. I would like to switch coaches for next year and really go after it. Sorry, I am just rambling. I don't know what's the matter with my brain at the moment lol
FYI your brain won't function correctly until one to two weeks post IMLP.
Exhaustion. I kind of relate it to what I hear women talk of "pregnancy brain" |
2013-07-16 9:52 AM in reply to: kaburns1214 |
Veteran 580 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by kaburns1214 Originally posted by ccmpsyd Originally posted by carrie639 Finally finished my rave report. Kind or wordy, but I guess all firsts are. Enjoy! I also want to thank everyone for all the support along the way, whether it was words of encouragement or tips for race day ... They were all used!!! http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/RaceLog/races-edit.asp?raceid=237... Nice Job Carrie! Way to give it out on the swim. How bumpy was the course for the bike ? Chris -- you looking at Muncie for 2014? Nope |
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2013-07-16 9:54 AM in reply to: jarvy01 |
Veteran 580 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by jarvy01 Originally posted by kaburns1214 Originally posted by ccmpsyd Originally posted by carrie639 Finally finished my rave report. Kind or wordy, but I guess all firsts are. Enjoy! I also want to thank everyone for all the support along the way, whether it was words of encouragement or tips for race day ... They were all used!!! http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/RaceLog/races-edit.asp?raceid=237... Nice Job Carrie! Way to give it out on the swim. How bumpy was the course for the bike ? Chris -- you looking at Muncie for 2014? I am looking at Muncie for 2014 (80% sure). Come join me, Chris! Nice job, Carrie! You did well and we are proud. Too hot...If/when I do another HIM...I would like to do the Pumpkinman again next year so I can beat this year's time. There is also the REV half in OOB, Maine in August...not sure why I would want to leave Maine in the summer to go some place that is hotter than it is here. |
2013-07-16 10:06 AM in reply to: uhcoog |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by uhcoog Originally posted by jarvy01 Originally posted by uhcoog Why? Originally posted by cheekymonkeys1 Nice Job Carrie. I guess I am in taper town, which is a little horrifying but also a little exciting. I have learned many things over the last few months, hopefully they will be things I can carry forward to next season and beyond. From early on my training sucked. I had way too much going on to have ever completed the training the way I would have liked. Some of which I could have prevented, but there was also a biggie that smacked me out of the ballpark and I never saw it coming. I know I won't be happy with my time or performance, but at this point it is what it is. I'm already thinking about next year, is that weird? I think I would like to spend next season doing mostly shorter distances and a HIM. I really need to work on my speed again and I can't wait for LP to be done so I can focus on nutrition as I have some work to do there. I would like to switch coaches for next year and really go after it. Sorry, I am just rambling. I don't know what's the matter with my brain at the moment lol
FYI your brain won't function correctly until one to two weeks post IMLP.
Exhaustion. I kind of relate it to what I hear women talk of "pregnancy brain" I'm going to have to get the brain working a little more quickly than that. IM is on Sunday. We drive straight home on Tuesday. My kids start school on Thursday. Those 2 weeks post-IM are insanely busy for me. |
2013-07-16 10:20 AM in reply to: jarvy01 |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed A 12 hour drive should be fun with 4 kids. Any guesses on how many times I'm going to hear "are we there yet??" I'm going to keep track and then I'll let you all know the number. |
2013-07-16 10:49 AM in reply to: jarvy01 |
Member 216 Haymarket, VA | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by jarvy01 A 12 hour drive should be fun with 4 kids. Any guesses on how many times I'm going to hear "are we there yet??" I'm going to keep track and then I'll let you all know the number. Yikes, and here I thought 17 hours with 4 huskies was bad. At least they only made noise when they needed to use the bathroom. |
2013-07-16 12:07 PM in reply to: jarvy01 |
Expert 1481 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by jarvy01 A 12 hour drive should be fun with 4 kids. Any guesses on how many times I'm going to hear "are we there yet??" I'm going to keep track and then I'll let you all know the number. Driving to Williamsburg was brutal and with traffic and construction a 10.5 hour trip turned into 20 hours over two days. Are we there yet is only the start. She's touching me, I'm bored, how much longer, I have to pee.......... Good luck. |
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2013-07-16 2:39 PM in reply to: everlong |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by everlong Originally posted by jarvy01 A 12 hour drive should be fun with 4 kids. Any guesses on how many times I'm going to hear "are we there yet??" I'm going to keep track and then I'll let you all know the number. Driving to Williamsburg was brutal and with traffic and construction a 10.5 hour trip turned into 20 hours over two days. Are we there yet is only the start. She's touching me, I'm bored, how much longer, I have to pee.......... Good luck. Stop it! That doesn't help, Scott. We're going to break up the trip there with a stop but the way home..... I hate the chorus of I'm boreds. No sh*t, kids. I'm bored too. LOL. At least they get to watch movies in the back. I'm taking Benadryl on the drive home so I sleep through the shenanigans |
2013-07-16 2:46 PM in reply to: mleech77 |
Regular 211 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Well vacation is sadly over, and it is back to real life. I had a wonderful time in Hawaii, and was even able to get in a reasonable amount of working out, including several runs, one long bike ride with a great long climb and beautiful scenery, and a swim race they apparently have every year called the King's Swim. It is a 1.2 mile open water race in the ocean, finishing where the Ironman swim finishes. It took me awhile to get used to swimming in lakes, so the ocean was something else altogether. I did have one coughing fit while swimming breaststroke for a little while. I came up and opened my mouth to take a breath - and was hit by a wave that gave me a big mouthful of salt water - yum. Happily the water was crystal clear, so you could see straight to the bottom, even in 50-75 feet of water. I saw lots of fish and sea turtles as we swam past. The water was pretty flat, so the swell wasn't high enough to affect breathing. I'm told salt water is more buoyant than fresh, so perhaps that helped me some too. The course was pretty simple - we swam out from shore, around an anchored boat, and then back to near the start. I ended up finishing in 39:17 - placing 154th out of 238. Not qualifying for the real Kona race yet, but I'll take it. First place went to a local 17-year old girl who finished in 25:10. I'm told she's something of a local celebrity who plans to swim the 26 mile shark-infested channel from Oahu to Molokai later this year. Second, third, and fourth places were all also teenage girls. I met several people at the event who were all really friendly. Many of them swim this same course every day for their daily swim workouts. I really envied them for their access to such wonderful places to work out and weather that lets them do so year-round. Sigh. Now I have to re-adjust to real life again. I'll catch up on everyone's postings for the last couple weeks, but did want to say hello. |
2013-07-16 2:48 PM in reply to: jarvy01 |
Expert 1481 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by jarvy01 Originally posted by everlong Originally posted by jarvy01 A 12 hour drive should be fun with 4 kids. Any guesses on how many times I'm going to hear "are we there yet??" I'm going to keep track and then I'll let you all know the number. Driving to Williamsburg was brutal and with traffic and construction a 10.5 hour trip turned into 20 hours over two days. Are we there yet is only the start. She's touching me, I'm bored, how much longer, I have to pee.......... Good luck. Stop it! That doesn't help, Scott. We're going to break up the trip there with a stop but the way home..... I hate the chorus of I'm boreds. No sh*t, kids. I'm bored too. LOL. At least they get to watch movies in the back. I'm taking Benadryl on the drive home so I sleep through the shenanigans Are we there yet? |
2013-07-16 2:50 PM in reply to: Kuma |
Expert 1481 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by Kuma Well vacation is sadly over, and it is back to real life. I had a wonderful time in Hawaii, and was even able to get in a reasonable amount of working out, including several runs, one long bike ride with a great long climb and beautiful scenery, and a swim race they apparently have every year called the King's Swim. It is a 1.2 mile open water race in the ocean, finishing where the Ironman swim finishes. It took me awhile to get used to swimming in lakes, so the ocean was something else altogether. I did have one coughing fit while swimming breaststroke for a little while. I came up and opened my mouth to take a breath - and was hit by a wave that gave me a big mouthful of salt water - yum. Happily the water was crystal clear, so you could see straight to the bottom, even in 50-75 feet of water. I saw lots of fish and sea turtles as we swam past. The water was pretty flat, so the swell wasn't high enough to affect breathing. I'm told salt water is more buoyant than fresh, so perhaps that helped me some too. The course was pretty simple - we swam out from shore, around an anchored boat, and then back to near the start. I ended up finishing in 39:17 - placing 154th out of 238. Not qualifying for the real Kona race yet, but I'll take it. First place went to a local 17-year old girl who finished in 25:10. I'm told she's something of a local celebrity who plans to swim the 26 mile shark-infested channel from Oahu to Molokai later this year. Second, third, and fourth places were all also teenage girls. I met several people at the event who were all really friendly. Many of them swim this same course every day for their daily swim workouts. I really envied them for their access to such wonderful places to work out and weather that lets them do so year-round. Sigh. Now I have to re-adjust to real life again. I'll catch up on everyone's postings for the last couple weeks, but did want to say hello. That swim sounds awesome. Glad you had fun. |
2013-07-16 2:51 PM in reply to: jarvy01 |
Veteran 580 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by jarvy01 Originally posted by everlong Originally posted by jarvy01 A 12 hour drive should be fun with 4 kids. Any guesses on how many times I'm going to hear "are we there yet??" I'm going to keep track and then I'll let you all know the number. Driving to Williamsburg was brutal and with traffic and construction a 10.5 hour trip turned into 20 hours over two days. Are we there yet is only the start. She's touching me, I'm bored, how much longer, I have to pee.......... Good luck. Stop it! That doesn't help, Scott. We're going to break up the trip there with a stop but the way home..... I hate the chorus of I'm boreds. No sh*t, kids. I'm bored too. LOL. At least they get to watch movies in the back. I'm taking Benadryl on the drive home so I sleep through the shenanigans If I hear I am bored from one of the kids, I tell them that only boring people get bored. |
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2013-07-16 2:56 PM in reply to: ccmpsyd |
Veteran 580 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by ccmpsyd Originally posted by jarvy01 Originally posted by everlong Originally posted by jarvy01 A 12 hour drive should be fun with 4 kids. Any guesses on how many times I'm going to hear "are we there yet??" I'm going to keep track and then I'll let you all know the number. Driving to Williamsburg was brutal and with traffic and construction a 10.5 hour trip turned into 20 hours over two days. Are we there yet is only the start. She's touching me, I'm bored, how much longer, I have to pee.......... Good luck. Stop it! That doesn't help, Scott. We're going to break up the trip there with a stop but the way home..... I hate the chorus of I'm boreds. No sh*t, kids. I'm bored too. LOL. At least they get to watch movies in the back. I'm taking Benadryl on the drive home so I sleep through the shenanigans If I hear I am bored from one of the kids, I tell them that only boring people get bored. but with three girls who are not biologically related, they can entertain themselves quite well and we have been overseas and it was actually okay So...I can't really complain...and I will just stop typing. |
2013-07-16 3:42 PM in reply to: Kuma |
Member 216 Haymarket, VA | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by Kuma Well vacation is sadly over, and it is back to real life. I had a wonderful time in Hawaii, and was even able to get in a reasonable amount of working out, including several runs, one long bike ride with a great long climb and beautiful scenery, and a swim race they apparently have every year called the King's Swim. It is a 1.2 mile open water race in the ocean, finishing where the Ironman swim finishes. It took me awhile to get used to swimming in lakes, so the ocean was something else altogether. I did have one coughing fit while swimming breaststroke for a little while. I came up and opened my mouth to take a breath - and was hit by a wave that gave me a big mouthful of salt water - yum. Happily the water was crystal clear, so you could see straight to the bottom, even in 50-75 feet of water. I saw lots of fish and sea turtles as we swam past. The water was pretty flat, so the swell wasn't high enough to affect breathing. I'm told salt water is more buoyant than fresh, so perhaps that helped me some too. The course was pretty simple - we swam out from shore, around an anchored boat, and then back to near the start. I ended up finishing in 39:17 - placing 154th out of 238. Not qualifying for the real Kona race yet, but I'll take it. First place went to a local 17-year old girl who finished in 25:10. I'm told she's something of a local celebrity who plans to swim the 26 mile shark-infested channel from Oahu to Molokai later this year. Second, third, and fourth places were all also teenage girls. I met several people at the event who were all really friendly. Many of them swim this same course every day for their daily swim workouts. I really envied them for their access to such wonderful places to work out and weather that lets them do so year-round. Sigh. Now I have to re-adjust to real life again. I'll catch up on everyone's postings for the last couple weeks, but did want to say hello. That swim sounds amazing! |
2013-07-16 4:23 PM in reply to: ccmpsyd |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by ccmpsyd Originally posted by ccmpsyd but with three girls who are not biologically related, they can entertain themselves quite well and we have been overseas and it was actually okay So...I can't really complain...and I will just stop typing. Originally posted by jarvy01 If I hear I am bored from one of the kids, I tell them that only boring people get bored. Originally posted by everlong Stop it! That doesn't help, Scott. We're going to break up the trip there with a stop but the way home..... I hate the chorus of I'm boreds. No sh*t, kids. I'm bored too. LOL. At least they get to watch movies in the back. I'm taking Benadryl on the drive home so I sleep through the shenanigans Originally posted by jarvy01 A 12 hour drive should be fun with 4 kids. Any guesses on how many times I'm going to hear "are we there yet??" I'm going to keep track and then I'll let you all know the number. Driving to Williamsburg was brutal and with traffic and construction a 10.5 hour trip turned into 20 hours over two days. Are we there yet is only the start. She's touching me, I'm bored, how much longer, I have to pee.......... Good luck.
My parents are driving my 2 eldest daughters from Miami to Greenville, SC, to meet us there at my great grandparents' house. I pray for their sanity. |
2013-07-16 4:56 PM in reply to: mleech77 |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 and UHCoog's Mentor Group-Closed Originally posted by mleech77 Originally posted by Kuma Well vacation is sadly over, and it is back to real life. I had a wonderful time in Hawaii, and was even able to get in a reasonable amount of working out, including several runs, one long bike ride with a great long climb and beautiful scenery, and a swim race they apparently have every year called the King's Swim. It is a 1.2 mile open water race in the ocean, finishing where the Ironman swim finishes. It took me awhile to get used to swimming in lakes, so the ocean was something else altogether. I did have one coughing fit while swimming breaststroke for a little while. I came up and opened my mouth to take a breath - and was hit by a wave that gave me a big mouthful of salt water - yum. Happily the water was crystal clear, so you could see straight to the bottom, even in 50-75 feet of water. I saw lots of fish and sea turtles as we swam past. The water was pretty flat, so the swell wasn't high enough to affect breathing. I'm told salt water is more buoyant than fresh, so perhaps that helped me some too. The course was pretty simple - we swam out from shore, around an anchored boat, and then back to near the start. I ended up finishing in 39:17 - placing 154th out of 238. Not qualifying for the real Kona race yet, but I'll take it. First place went to a local 17-year old girl who finished in 25:10. I'm told she's something of a local celebrity who plans to swim the 26 mile shark-infested channel from Oahu to Molokai later this year. Second, third, and fourth places were all also teenage girls. I met several people at the event who were all really friendly. Many of them swim this same course every day for their daily swim workouts. I really envied them for their access to such wonderful places to work out and weather that lets them do so year-round. Sigh. Now I have to re-adjust to real life again. I'll catch up on everyone's postings for the last couple weeks, but did want to say hello. That swim sounds amazing! X2! I'm jealous. Nice job on the race, Matt! |
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