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 2015-03-16 10:27 PM in reply to: #5101321 |
 1007  DeLand, Florida |  Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For BusinessWorkouts - definitely feeling the swing coming back around. Managed to get 1000yds in during swim class. And got the beginnings of instruction on flip turns. All in 45 mins. Not too shabby. My breast stroke had gotten 100% better after some help from the wife on vacation. Now it really is an effective recovery stroke. And I'm faster doing it. Faster for less effort is the goal! Plank challenge - I screwed up a bit. I've been staying ahead of the number of seconds, trying to prep myself for the dreaded 120. Well I missed the part where we were supposed to leap from 90 to 120 today. I was still doing 105 to stay ahead of the 90. Oh well I'll get em tomorrow. Rewarding myself with a 16 year old single malt today instead of a beer. Mostly because its easier on calories. Lol. |
| 2015-03-17 6:51 AM in reply to: chayes |
Expert 925   Timmins, ON. Canada | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Originally posted by chayes Does anyone have suggestions for good podcasts? I have very little patience for searching for them but I don't like to listen to music while I run. Mainly looking for things that are humorous and/or educational. (Which, I know, is just about all podcasts.) Things I want to avoid: ~ obvious political bias (on either side) ~ accents ~ free-form, where people are just like shooting the breeze ~ anything overly earnest ~ interview shows where the host is always trying to show how smart he is Whats wrong with Accents??  I used to listen to a great running podcast, but it was from England, I dont remember the name of it. |
| 2015-03-17 7:50 AM in reply to: justinfss |
Veteran 732 Pittsburgh, PA | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Haha I guess it depends on the accent. I feel like a jerk saying it but some accents just drive me crazy- like if I had a friend with that accent, fine, but I'm not going to choose to listen to a podcast with an accent that annoys me. Some British accents I enjoy but my NPR station sometimes plays BBC news and some of the newscasters I just can't take. There's a show on NPR called "Science Friday" that I might enjoy but the host has the worst accent- like he's taken the worst parts of a Boston and Bronx accent and combined them. Thanks for the suggestions! I will check them out for my next long run. |
| 2015-03-17 7:54 AM in reply to: mirthfuldragon |
Veteran 732 Pittsburgh, PA | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Originally posted by mirthfuldragon Swimming, oh what fun. Except, well, that it has become fun. I'm actually enjoying my time in the pool. My flip turns are getting decent, and I've set new PR for 100, 200, and 400 tests. Today I ran 10x100, and all were right at or sub 2:00. And I clicked off a 1:48/100, which is a 4 or 5 second PR. My 400 TT was 7:56 and my 200 was 3:53. Last year, my 400 was 8:16 and my 200 was 4:05. Stroke feels a lot better, and I can feel where I'm making mistakes, so I'm still doing a fair amount of drill work to fix those issues. Also, I'm not sure if the pool is 25m or 25y; last year's records were 25 yards, so if the pool at LA Fitness is really 25m, then I'm even faster than I think. I'm still slow by any real standard, but hey, progress is progress. And I used to hate swimming. Great progress! I think we're about the same speed. Well you're probably faster now because I mostly just swim in the summer.  I still remember my first sub-1:00 50 meters. I was so excited. How did you learn flip turns? |
| 2015-03-17 8:55 AM in reply to: Snewo |
| 1007 DeLand, Florida | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Originally posted by Snewo Strength Training I need the advice of the experts here. Let's just say that I want to dip my toe into the strength training waters. Can someone recommend some basic upper and lower body strength training exercises? Knowing myself, I'd like to start small with just a few exercises that I can add into my weekly routine. What are the most bang for the buck exercises when it comes to triathlon strength training? Oh, and just to be picky, let's leave squats off of this list since I don't think my left knee can take that. Any ideas? Dave - would hardly call myself an expert, but I can tell you what I've been doing. Once a week my wife and I see a personal trainer for an hour. The Trainer is also a running coach and has geared our training towards that. There's a lot of core work mixed in, and exercises involve free weights, TRX, balance balls, that kind of thing. She's focused on our form to make sure we don't hurt anything, but pushes us to make sure we're reaching potential. The same trainer teaches a couple group classes at the Y that I take from time to time - Boot Camp and Kickboxing. Those along with the training really get the HR going and sustained for an hour while building and toning muscle. All of the above though is geared around fitness and that sort of thing. There's no 'go big or go home' lol. Power lifting for building big muscle is a whole other ballgame...There's no reason to shy away from it, it's just a totally different kind of weight training from what I'm doing. Like the trainer tells us - no one is going to turn into Arnold overnight. Oh yeah as far as results go - once I started seeing the trainer, and running less, with more cross training and strength stuff happening - my running keeps getting faster. |
| 2015-03-17 9:01 AM in reply to: chayes |
| 1007 DeLand, Florida | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Originally posted by chayes the worst parts of a Boston You'd HATE me after a few beers! I didn't know I had an accent until I got to college, then forced myself to get rid of it so I didn't sound uneducated. The mind of an 18 year old... Anyway when I start drinking and being social it comes out full force. And I just started to learn the very basics of flip turns in my class last night. He had us in the middle of the pool away from walls just getting the motion of flipping to be comfortable. Apparently lots of people starting out on flip turns at the wall smack their ankles on the edge of the pool. The head you can get a good sense of how far you are from it when starting the flip, because that's where your eyes are. But when upside down under water you really have no idea where your feet are in relation to the same wall. |
| 2015-03-17 9:38 AM in reply to: #5101322 |
| 141 Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business John- learning to flip turn in the middle of the pool is always a good drill...I was doing sprint practice one day, moving at about 80%, and came in long into the wall..lets just say an inch and a half wide black and blue bruise on my achellies, and quite a few censored phrases later..I decided to start practicing my turns more and more. |
| 2015-03-17 10:57 AM in reply to: GeauxHard |
Veteran 706 Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Originally posted by chayes How did you learn flip turns? Originally posted by GeauxHard John- learning to flip turn in the middle of the pool is always a good drill...I was doing sprint practice one day, moving at about 80%, and came in long into the wall..lets just say an inch and a half wide black and blue bruise on my achellies, and quite a few censored phrases later..I decided to start practicing my turns more and more. My gym has an on-again, off-again swim class thing (not a real master's program by any stretch - I was the fastest one there by a significant margin), and the instructor gave the set of 10x50, and told me to do flip turns if I could, and not wanting to show weakness, I just did them. The basics are easy to understand, so it's really just *learning* the mechanics. Nose plugs help early on, but the chlorine burn is a great motivator to stop screwing them up My open turns are still a bit faster, but they feel like cheating since I can get that extra air. I read something that there are no easy days in the pool, especially as an adult-onset swimmer; if I'm only doing 3hrs/ week in the water, they all need to count, so that's what I try for. |
| 2015-03-17 11:12 AM in reply to: firebert |
Veteran 706 Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Originally posted by firebert Originally posted by Snewo Strength Training I need the advice of the experts here. Let's just say that I want to dip my toe into the strength training waters. Can someone recommend some basic upper and lower body strength training exercises? Knowing myself, I'd like to start small with just a few exercises that I can add into my weekly routine. What are the most bang for the buck exercises when it comes to triathlon strength training? Oh, and just to be picky, let's leave squats off of this list since I don't think my left knee can take that. Any ideas? Dave - would hardly call myself an expert, but I can tell you what I've been doing. Once a week my wife and I see a personal trainer for an hour. The Trainer is also a running coach and has geared our training towards that. There's a lot of core work mixed in, and exercises involve free weights, TRX, balance balls, that kind of thing. r. Normally I'd comment with a bunch of links and sources and whatnot, but I'd be condensing 2+ years of thought and research, so it would run about a thousand words or more, so I'll just summarize. I don't believe in bosus, kickboxing, kettlebells, or the like. I don't see how any extended, weighted exercise is going to yield a substantial strength benefit against using the same core muscles in cycling, running, or swimming. Holding a 5lb or 10lb weight while jumping around isn't a big difference. When it comes to strength, steal from the strong guys. Do what they're doing. Getting big takes a lot of work, along with intelligent nutrition. Getting strong doesn't necessarily mean getting big. Maximize time; spend as little time with the lunkheads as possible, so you have more time to s/b/r. Here's what I do: 5 sets of 5 to 8 reps, as heavy as possible, for bench press, cable row, squats, lat pulldown, dumbell deadlift, bicep cursl, triceps, and then maybe some assisted chinups. I'll skip squats if there's a big bike workout coming up. Most of the exercises hit at least two major muscle groups and are natural motions, and they all use core strength. I try to do it twice per week. Using heavy weights maximizes the amout of controlled damage to muscles, which allows them to rebuild effectively. Doing 5x5 on lats, I might pull 110; whereas at doing 3x12, it might be 70; pulling 40% more weight in 2/3 the time is going to build a lot more strength. Just my two bits. |
| 2015-03-17 11:57 AM in reply to: #5101390 |
| 141 Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Charles, little tip to overcome nose burn when turning...hum, you can't hum without breathing out your nose! |
| 2015-03-17 1:12 PM in reply to: GeauxHard |
| 462 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Happy St. Patties day. Sorry to hear about the knee, hopefully the MRI will be good news. Training is going well, and I am officially back at work which should do wonders for my mood. I'm adding in paddles when I swim to add some strength on my stroke. As for strength check out strength training for triathletes. It basicly mirrors what the strength trainers for work have been saying and doing. Doing only 5-8 reps but never adding in the larger reps will give results but not as fast. You have to change it up to build muscle mass (lower reps high weight) and for lack of a better term make the muscle solid (higher reps lower weights). Simply using body weight will not keep the strength gains like using weights. The hard part is adding this in while you are already training for tri. Due to my injury I am leaving out weights till the off season, then hitting them hard in off season followed by maintnice next season (subbing a short bike and short run with weights). Protein intake is key to building muscles so if your using MFP make sure you are well over your protein intake for the day. Plans for beer tonight is a homemade Black and Tan with my Belgian IPA and Guinness. Did a 30/15 brick today. Tomorrow I'll do bike and swim. Since it's mid 70's here I am hoping to bike outside. My bike saddle is in so I can return the loaner and get my seat put on. Can't remeber who was worried about clipping in and out, but I went to a flat parking lot and practiced for 30 min. In/out over and over. Started stationary then moving then moving pretty fast. Practiced on both sides till I was comfortable with it. |
| 2015-03-17 2:26 PM in reply to: #5101448 |
Extreme Veteran 1648 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Okay Scott- you just pulled some big Irish faux pas... http://gawker.com/5990788/its-st-paddys-day-not-st-pattys-day Just in case you're interested! |
| 2015-03-17 2:29 PM in reply to: #5101526 |
Extreme Veteran 1648 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Oops that might not be the right article- but Black and Tans are generally not considered a pro Irish drink. http://www.changesinlongitude.com/order-black-and-tan-irish-pub-ire... |
| 2015-03-17 3:11 PM in reply to: Moonrocket |
Veteran 371 Lincoln, Nebraska | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Question for the group. How do you handle being forced to miss an event? I'm signed up for an awesome gravel bike ride in June, and it's looking like I may be forced to miss out, due to my wife's work, and family stuff. I'm more angry than disappointed right now. I've missed events from injury and stuff like that, but this is MUCH worse. No good reason other than I have responsibilities that trump hobbies. I'm ready to break things.... seriously. |
| 2015-03-17 3:18 PM in reply to: #5101528 |
| 141 Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business So I'm a bit annoyed...got a set of cleats to put on my new LG tri x speed shoes today, practiced clipping in and out a few times, hit the road riding with them, got about 3 miles into a ride, and noticed my left strap was loose..reached down to tighten it, and the entire metal look system ripped out.. God damnit. Looks like I need to make another trip to the LBS -.- |
| 2015-03-17 5:26 PM in reply to: #5101549 |
| 38 Arlington, Virginia | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Fifth, I'm in a very similar situation, and I let it screw with my head. Luckily I'm back on track now, but it was a trip for sure. I'd say see if you can transfer yr registration to someone else or defer until next year. Then find another one you can make and sign up for that! |
| 2015-03-17 6:03 PM in reply to: #5101584 |
| 141 Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business So I ran to my LBS..they didn't have any more x speeds in stock :/ and the only thing they had in my size was the x lites..which he did a straight exchange for ?? I knew I picked the right bike shop... |
| 2015-03-17 7:50 PM in reply to: firebert |
| 189 Quakertown, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Originally posted by firebert Originally posted by chayes the worst parts of a Boston You'd HATE me after a few beers! I didn't know I had an accent until I got to college, then forced myself to get rid of it so I didn't sound uneducated. The [snip] I'm similar. My Fluffyia (Philadelphia) accent comes out as I get angry. I've been told I sound like a Philly mobster. My buddy from Rhode Island was the same way. |
| 2015-03-17 8:35 PM in reply to: fifthcircle |
Expert 4269 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Originally posted by fifthcircle Question for the group. How do you handle being forced to miss an event? I'm signed up for an awesome gravel bike ride in June, and it's looking like I may be forced to miss out, due to my wife's work, and family stuff. I'm more angry than disappointed right now. I've missed events from injury and stuff like that, but this is MUCH worse. No good reason other than I have responsibilities that trump hobbies. I'm ready to break things.... seriously. Here's how I would handle it. Two words: Drink Heavily... and then sign up for another race. 3 months is a long time to be pissed. treat yourself to something so you don't feel like you are getting hosed. Sorry man! |
| 2015-03-17 8:45 PM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 4269 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Came home today after an absolutely crappy day at work and asked my sons: "What would my response be if one of you was training for a race and you asked me if you should go for a ride or blow off a workout." Both my sons told me that I would kick them out of the house. So I listened to my own advice and went out for a ride. Glad I did - I had a blast! I was really hitting it hard and some of my splits were in the 17 mile an hour range, which is flying for me. I was having some much fun I might have been talking to myself on the bike. My bikes name is Billy Baroo - just like the putter - and when I am really enjoying myself I have been known to let out a "Oh Billy Billy Billy Billy!" To reward myself I took my sons to my favorite wings place. Had a left hand milk stout. Life is good! Edited by Qua17 2015-03-17 8:48 PM (IMG_5437.JPG) (IMG_5442.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_5437.JPG (634KB - 3 downloads) IMG_5442.JPG (116KB - 3 downloads) |
| 2015-03-17 9:06 PM in reply to: GeauxHard |
Veteran 732 Pittsburgh, PA | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Originally posted by GeauxHard So I ran to my LBS..they didn't have any more x speeds in stock :/ and the only thing they had in my size was the x lites..which he did a straight exchange for ?? I knew I picked the right bike shop... That's awesome. Glad I didn't give you any sympathy on having your ride cut short before. |
| 2015-03-17 9:19 PM in reply to: Qua17 |
| 189 Quakertown, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Check-in: Workout #2 for the week is in the books. I did 10 miles on the stationary bike today. Low resistance, just keeping the legs honest. I still have one muscle that's sore. It seems like I'm always right on the hairy edge of being ready for the Tuesday workout. Sunday is my long run and I guess I'm pushing it just a tad too much. I'm usually ready for the next run (Thursday) and I should be again this week. Since this Sunday should be a shorter run, I'll see how I feel by next Tuesday as a test of my theory. Shirts: Our team store is now READY! The pricing is currently set for 6-24 pieces. If we are going to have more than 24 people buying, then it could click down one more level in pricing. Here is the pricing link to show what I mean: http://www.jakroo.com/pricing/ As for our team store.... http://shop.jakroo.com/storefront/BDAS Please post a Yeah! or Nay! as to whether you plan to purchase one with your next post. I'll use the roll call of who plans to order one to see if we will be greater than 24. I'll count up the totals over the next week. Once we have the price set, the goal is to order by March 31st and for delivery by April 21st. |
| 2015-03-17 9:29 PM in reply to: #5075170 |
| 141 Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Hell yeah I want one! |
| 2015-03-17 9:30 PM in reply to: Qua17 |
Veteran 732 Pittsburgh, PA | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business Originally posted by Qua17 Originally posted by fifthcircle Question for the group. How do you handle being forced to miss an event? I'm signed up for an awesome gravel bike ride in June, and it's looking like I may be forced to miss out, due to my wife's work, and family stuff. I'm more angry than disappointed right now. I've missed events from injury and stuff like that, but this is MUCH worse. No good reason other than I have responsibilities that trump hobbies. I'm ready to break things.... seriously. Here's how I would handle it. Two words: Drink Heavily... and then sign up for another race. 3 months is a long time to be pissed. treat yourself to something so you don't feel like you are getting hosed. Sorry man! Good advice! One thing that helps me deal with disappointments in general is to allow myself to feel sad, and then put the disappointment in a positive context. Sometimes it's because I tried something I knew I might fail at, and I'm glad I was brave enough to try. Other times I miss out on something because ultimately it's not consistent with how I want to live my life. For example I recently "missed out" on a career opportunity because it would have meant changing a few things that I really like about my life. So while I was sad about the opportunity itself, I can be proud of myself for recognizing the baggage that would come with it, and avoiding that. In your case, I hope you can be happy with yourself for putting family above racing. Also... not sure how to put this... but your wife and family will probably be much more supportive of your racing if you can take this disappointment in stride. |
| 2015-03-17 9:53 PM in reply to: Moonrocket |
| 462 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society - Open For Business I actually learned that in NY. Met a friend I hadn't seen in years at a bar for a drink, the Irish guy next to me coin checked me and ended up buying me a beer. He told me about the black and tan thing, but we figured since I'm Irish and catholic (but mostly Italian) it was fine and all was forgiven. besides I made mine with homebrew Belgian IPA not bass |
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