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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2013-02-07 5:06 PM uhcoog - 2013-02-07 5:10 PM ccmpsyd - 2013-02-07 3:50 PM I am curious, how many listen to music for inspiration prior to or during a workout or a race? If so, I would love to see what is your top 5 on you ipod play list. So, I will share to kick it off (in no particular oder): 1)Radiohead - 2+2=5 2) Rage Against the Machine - Bulls on Parade 3) Eminem (I don't listen to him...just like the song) - Til I collapse 4) Ministry - Just one fix 5) Built to Spill - goin against your mind I generally listen to Texas Country/Red Dirt Music. Also I don't like to get too hyped up. I do that just fine on my own:
1. The Road Goes on Forever by Robert Earl Keen 2. Crazy Eddie's Last Hurrah by Reckless Kelly 3. Hammer Down by Cross Canadian Ragweed 4. Bread and Water by Ryan Bingham. 5. Wanna Rock and Roll by Ray Wylie Hubbard Ummm . . . I'm a dork and ast year before Poconos and IMFL I listened to One Direction. Yeah, I know. I swear I generally have really good taste in music. I'm trusting you with my training? |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jarvy01 - 2013-02-07 6:41 PM I listen to alt/alt rock. Sometimes I will put pop songs on a race playlist to mix it up. Some that always seem to make it on: 1. Heads Will Roll - Yeah Yeah Yeahs 2. Army of Me - Bjork 3. Let Go - Frou Frou 4. Sail - AWOL Nation 5. Smack my B Up - Prodigy Right now I am loving Imagine Dragons, and the song Radioactive is at the top of my playlist, as is anything by Florence and the Machine. Got them on there too |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() For running my favorites are - Bleed it Out - Linkin Park (always on my playlist) Under the Milky Way - The Church (recent addition) This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race - Fall Out Boy (I know Just Another Day - Oingo Boingo (another recent addition) Drive By & 50 Ways to Say Goodbye - Train (I couldn't decide between the two) On the trainer I listen to Pandora and usually pick the following - Stranglers The Cure Linkin Park Two Door Cinema Club |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2013-02-06 6:44 AM Kuma - 2013-02-05 9:49 PM I'm shifting this week from a swim focus (3X/week) to a run focus (3x/week). I'm currently running about an hour a week in two sessions, for a total distance of about 6 miles miles per week. Now that I'm going to be adding one more session and more miles, what is the best way to do it? Starting with the "rule" that I shouldn't increase weekly distance by more than 10%/week, should divide my current hour into three 20 minute sessions on different days and go from there? Also, as I add distance, is it better to add all the distance to one of the days and keep the other two short, or should I add to all of the sessions equally?Finally, is it a rule that I shouldn't run on consecutive days, to allow my body to recover from the pounding? I'd certainly appreciate any thoughts you more experienced folks have. There are lots of "rules" but what's most important is what works for you. If you have been running twice a week for 30 minutes each, I think you are fine going to three 30 minute sessions. Given your background, here's what I would do: Week 1 - 30 min , 30 min , 30 min Week 2 - 30 min, 30 min, 40 min Week 3 - 35 min, 30 min, 45 min Week 4 - 40 min , 30 min , 55 min Essentially splitting the increased volume between two runs so you end up with a short, middle and long run. Also make sure that when you are adding volume you keep the runs aerobic in nature. For the purposes of developing run fitness what matters is the cumulative volume of your running, not the volume of any one run. Plus long runs create a big recovery debt so I find there to be very little utility in very long runs for tri preparation. Its also fine to run on consecutive days. If you are having leg / pain issues its likely a form problem, which can be corrected with some drill work. Generally my weeks are structured with middle distance run on Tue, recovery run on Wed, middle distance run on Thur, short T-run on Saturday and long run on Sunday. Thanks very much for this. I'll see what I can put together. What does it say about me that I missed getting up at 5:30 this morning and slogging to the pool? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kuma - 2013-02-08 7:28 AM Thanks very much for this. I'll see what I can put together. What does it say about me that I missed getting up at 5:30 this morning and slogging to the pool? Same thing it says about me for not getting up at 5am for a bike & run. Gonna have to do it after work, which is becoming the norm not the exception. Must get back to early mornings!!! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi, peeps. Rest day for me. That's a good thing because I nearly tumbled down the stairs this morning because my hamstrings are so tight from yesterday's run test. Ha ha. Thank you for all your thoughts on the weight gain. I really can't worry about it too much. I started having night sweats again, so I know something is off with my hormones. Some of it's water; some of it's true gain. I am going to shift around my snacks and work on portion control. I'm going to ditch the evening snack and work on getting in my calories earlier in the day. I'm still going to eat my frozen grapes.....just moving them to afternoon snack instead of evening snack. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 3k in the pool this morning. Hit most of my times so I'm happy with that. 55 minute z1 run later. 3 hour ride tomorrow.
Those of you in the NE be careful today and get a trainer ride in. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Jen - I hear ya on the tight hamstrings. Mine were killing me last night during my run, and after,. I had to break into my secret stash of anti-inflammatories and muscle relaxers. Feel a little better this morning, but not great. Considering having them surgically removed. ![]() |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Got up this morning to do hill repeats and walked outside prepared for a little rain and bam! Snow and ice! Really?! So now it's wait till later or get on a dreadmill. So if I run them on a treadmill do I just crank up the elevation as high as I can or is there a good setting any of you have used? |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() So we talk about aerobic vs. anaerobic athletes and working on limiters. Below are my swim TT times from this morning. I thought I'd let you discuss and then tell y'all what I think:
1 x 200 TT (2:55) |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2013-02-08 8:27 AM So we talk about aerobic vs. anaerobic athletes and working on limiters. Below are my swim TT times from this morning. I thought I'd let you discuss and then tell y'all what I think:
1 x 200 TT (2:55)
I hate you. That is all. Oooooobviously you're far to aerobic for me and will smash me coming out of the water in Galveston. I'm going to have to kill that run. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() You are aerobic cuz your 200 is nearly the same/slightly faster than your 2x 100's? FYI ... I prefer the test you just did to the 3x800's, hint, hint |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Work on your mental toughness in the water Scott, Kelly openly admits that her OW times are slower than pool times. Keep in mind in the pool Kelly has the perfect stroke and has a very good flip turn which powers her times! I think she even said at one point that while she can kick Shaun in the pool, he can beat her in OW ... just saying |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() carrie639 - 2013-02-08 8:38 AM You are aerobic cuz your 200 is nearly the same/slightly faster than your 2x 100's? FYI ... I prefer the test you just did to the 3x800's, hint, hint |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Korn, Disturbed, Theory of a Deadman, System of a Down, Sixx AM - usually. May need this shoveling later tonight & tomorrow. ccmpsyd - 2013-02-07 4:50 PM I am curious, how many listen to music for inspiration prior to or during a workout or a race? If so, I would love to see what is your top 5 on you ipod play list. So, I will share to kick it off (in no particular oder): 1)Radiohead - 2+2=5 2) Rage Against the Machine - Bulls on Parade 3) Eminem (I don't listen to him...just like the song) - Til I collapse 4) Ministry - Just one fix 5) Built to Spill - goin against your mind |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() carrie639 - 2013-02-08 9:41 AM Work on your mental toughness in the water Scott, Kelly openly admits that her OW times are slower than pool times. Keep in mind in the pool Kelly has the perfect stroke and has a very good flip turn which powers her times! I think she even said at one point that while she can kick Shaun in the pool, he can beat her in OW ... just saying I'm faster doing OWS. I turn like crap in the pool and the wetsuit balances out my lower body. I also put in north of 50 OWS's last summer which really helped. I got much straighter and my spotting was excellent by the end of the season. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() carrie639 - 2013-02-08 8:41 AM Work on your mental toughness in the water Scott, Kelly openly admits that her OW times are slower than pool times. Keep in mind in the pool Kelly has the perfect stroke and has a very good flip turn which powers her times! I think she even said at one point that while she can kick Shaun in the pool, he can beat her in OW ... just saying
Not really sure what my mental toughness has to do with it. Kelly is an aerobic athlete for the most part. Her times are going to stay fairly consistent, my guess is her HR would be fairly static as well. I was HIGHLY anaerobic when I first started working with Kelly, not as bad anymore. It's the whole point of the 3 x 800 test. As you start to move away from being anaerobic you will see the differences in your times diminish. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 45 minute Z1 ride, 1100 yard drill and slow swim, 8 mile run as 1 warmup, 5 tempo, 2 cooldown. Tomorrow "off" but I'm sure I'll be shoveling. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() uhcoog - 2013-02-08 11:13 AM carrie639 - 2013-02-08 8:41 AM Work on your mental toughness in the water Scott, Kelly openly admits that her OW times are slower than pool times. Keep in mind in the pool Kelly has the perfect stroke and has a very good flip turn which powers her times! I think she even said at one point that while she can kick Shaun in the pool, he can beat her in OW ... just saying
Not really sure what my mental toughness has to do with it. Kelly is an aerobic athlete for the most part. Her times are going to stay fairly consistent, my guess is her HR would be fairly static as well. I was HIGHLY anaerobic when I first started working with Kelly, not as bad anymore. It's the whole point of the 3 x 800 test. As you start to move away from being anaerobic you will see the differences in your times diminish. That was the thought I had when I saw the times - amazingly consistent over the different 100s. I've never timed myself, but I don't think I'm that consistent over 1000m. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2013-02-08 9:27 AM What I do 800 in you did 1000 So we talk about aerobic vs. anaerobic athletes and working on limiters. Below are my swim TT times from this morning. I thought I'd let you discuss and then tell y'all what I think:
1 x 200 TT (2:55) ![]() |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kidtri33 - 2013-02-08 12:03 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-02-08 9:27 AM What I do 800 in you did 1000 So we talk about aerobic vs. anaerobic athletes and working on limiters. Below are my swim TT times from this morning. I thought I'd let you discuss and then tell y'all what I think:
1 x 200 TT (2:55) ![]() Its actually a little bit of a trick question. I am obviously very aerobic at the moment (two years ago I was much more anaerobic but it goes to show you can build strengths) but I screwed up the 200. Even for someone who is aerobic the 200 pace should be faster than the 1000 pace, mine are almost identical. I did a 600 warm up before the 200 at a pretty easy pace. I should have included a few fast 25s. I essentially was flat out of the gate and never made it up. The other interesting point is my stroke. Over the past 2 months I've worked to eliminate the glide in my stroke and go with a straight, deep arm pull. In OWS you generally lose the very front part of your stroke because of the tumult from other swimmers. I'm trying to build a stroke that won't be impacted by other swimmers. The point about the wetsuit is also key. The weaker the swimmer you are, the more benefit you get from a wetsuit. A wetsuit is like a bubble around your legs and it forces your hips up putting you in good body position. Good swimmers already have this position so the wetsuit doesn't change much. Weaker swimmers who drag their hips get a huge boost from a wetsuit (its like using a pull buoy and still being able to kick). |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2013-02-08 9:27 AM So we talk about aerobic vs. anaerobic athletes and working on limiters. Below are my swim TT times from this morning. I thought I'd let you discuss and then tell y'all what I think:
1 x 200 TT (2:55) That's cruising. I haven't done one of these in a bit and I'm not at peak swim fitness right now but I can go 3:05 on the 200 and 1:40 all the way through on the 100 splits for the 1000. When it comes to swimming I don't have great top end speed but I do have good endurance. If I try to go from 1:40 to 1:35 I start to fall apart really fast. The 200 @3:05 I'm sucking wind yet @3:20 I'm fine. If I go to 1:45 I'm really comfortable and just keep going. Right now I've been really working on trying to get more hips into my swimming so I haven't done anything faster than 1:45 pace even on intervals. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Cuz you have mentioned previously that your pool times aren't necessarily replicated in the OW |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2013-02-08 12:36 PM kidtri33 - 2013-02-08 12:03 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-02-08 9:27 AM What I do 800 in you did 1000 So we talk about aerobic vs. anaerobic athletes and working on limiters. Below are my swim TT times from this morning. I thought I'd let you discuss and then tell y'all what I think:
1 x 200 TT (2:55) ![]() Its actually a little bit of a trick question. I am obviously very aerobic at the moment (two years ago I was much more anaerobic but it goes to show you can build strengths) but I screwed up the 200. Even for someone who is aerobic the 200 pace should be faster than the 1000 pace, mine are almost identical. I did a 600 warm up before the 200 at a pretty easy pace. I should have included a few fast 25s. I essentially was flat out of the gate and never made it up. The other interesting point is my stroke. Over the past 2 months I've worked to eliminate the glide in my stroke and go with a straight, deep arm pull. In OWS you generally lose the very front part of your stroke because of the tumult from other swimmers. I'm trying to build a stroke that won't be impacted by other swimmers. The point about the wetsuit is also key. The weaker the swimmer you are, the more benefit you get from a wetsuit. A wetsuit is like a bubble around your legs and it forces your hips up putting you in good body position. Good swimmers already have this position so the wetsuit doesn't change much. Weaker swimmers who drag their hips get a huge boost from a wetsuit (its like using a pull buoy and still being able to kick). That is really quick and consistent Kelly. You described exactly why a wetsuit works to my advantage though. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2013-02-08 12:36 PM kidtri33 - 2013-02-08 12:03 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-02-08 9:27 AM What I do 800 in you did 1000 So we talk about aerobic vs. anaerobic athletes and working on limiters. Below are my swim TT times from this morning. I thought I'd let you discuss and then tell y'all what I think:
1 x 200 TT (2:55) ![]() Its actually a little bit of a trick question. I am obviously very aerobic at the moment (two years ago I was much more anaerobic but it goes to show you can build strengths) but I screwed up the 200. Even for someone who is aerobic the 200 pace should be faster than the 1000 pace, mine are almost identical. I did a 600 warm up before the 200 at a pretty easy pace. I should have included a few fast 25s. I essentially was flat out of the gate and never made it up. The other interesting point is my stroke. Over the past 2 months I've worked to eliminate the glide in my stroke and go with a straight, deep arm pull. In OWS you generally lose the very front part of your stroke because of the tumult from other swimmers. I'm trying to build a stroke that won't be impacted by other swimmers. The point about the wetsuit is also key. The weaker the swimmer you are, the more benefit you get from a wetsuit. A wetsuit is like a bubble around your legs and it forces your hips up putting you in good body position. Good swimmers already have this position so the wetsuit doesn't change much. Weaker swimmers who drag their hips get a huge boost from a wetsuit (its like using a pull buoy and still being able to kick). I can't visualize how you're changing your stroke. Do you have any underwater images of how you want your new stroke to look? Nice TTs, Kelly! |
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