More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed (Page 71)

So sorry to read this, Tom.  Just try to be a patient patient even though it isn't easy.  Think of it as mental strength training

I ran across and interesting article about tracking a swim workout with a running watch (+ Connect IQ app).  This is for Garmin 230, 235, or 630.

https://www.sporttracks.mobi/blog/how-to-track-swims-with-a-running-watch

UGH, I remember that feeling too -in fact, I've had it way too many times!! After my shoulder surgery it was about 5 weeks before I got the ok to run; I was still in the sling at times.  I could probably have gotten the ok  to do an easy spin on a trainer sooner-no touching the bars though.  I hope you get the okie dokie to do something soon!!   

Janyne's post about tracking a swim workout reminded me I wanted to ask the pod a question about loading a swim workout to your watch and then actually having success using it!

Last night I tried to use a workout I loaded to my 920.  The workout was on the watch and the first set went a-ok, but then things went screwy.  I planned the workout so that rests were based on hitting the lap button. For some reason this did not work out so well! I never use the lap button -just hit the stop start one for every pause in other workouts, so I'm sure i was doing something wrong when I then wanted to restart the workout.  

So, question for the pod- do you, or have you ever, uploaded a swim workout to your watch?  If so, how'd it go?  When you hit the lap button for the rest period, how do you let the watch know to move onto the next step? Hit lap again? Hit the stop/start?  

As I type this, I think I probably needed just to hit the lap button, but maybe not...

Technology has been hard for me the last week 

I'm still in the watches are blasphemy camp for swimming.

haha! I use one because I'm trying to check any improvement and am an idiot when it comes to using the pool clock! Plus, being able to load my workout to the watch so I don't have to mess with my phone is a plus. Of course, if I keep hitt No the wrong button it's less of a plus

That's tough not being able to drive! Was it your left? This was one of the few things where right side turned out better for me. I was off work most of the first couple weeks (near Thanksgiving), and borrowed an automatic for the couple days I did go in. My car is manual, but fortunate with the route that I only really needed 2nd & 4th to get in. I could lean in well enough to get those without extending my arm out. Reverse was only from a stop, so could reach over with my left hand.

Curious about that need to start training though. It's very common to see posts about trying to salvage fitness while injured. But the thought is a bit misguided and is where many need to learn to stay out of their own way. With such a substantial injury, the number one thing (by a long shot) is to get better. That's not just avoiding hurting it again, but watching out for other stress. And that comes in multiple forms. I had to watch my left arm for awhile simply because stronger efforts could cross over to the other side even if the right was just hanging there. It's also with the amount of stress the body sees and is trying to recover from. I could put in loads of training stress on the recumbent or elliptical without directly stressing the hurt section, but that adds more stress that my body would have to recover from which can take a little away from how much is directed at the broken part. Especially so in the early going. This part was challenging and I had to drop off all notions of salvaging for some time. Basically everything was centered around the therapy and rehab work.

If they're not being helpful at all towards understanding what you can and can't do, then that is a problem of theirs. It does happen. But remember that some of the perspective is for you too. My doctor doesn't always say all these things up front as not everyone needs it, but when pressed before with a previous injury he did give a much more direct statement about needing to stop everything for a bit to let things regrow. I would risk tearing all the way through. Even though it's not what I wanted, that more direct line helped to cope for those couple weeks before starting any type of work. Similar for the more recent break. Nothing at all for a couple weeks except for the basic motions they prescribed. That meant no recumbent or elliptical either. Very limited walking around too. Do keep asking to make sure, but know that sometimes nothing at all is the best thing to do.

I would love to be able to load workouts in to my garmin! Especially if it would tell me what I'm supposed to be doing. Trying to read my routine in a poolside baggie on a dark morning is a PITA. And I agree that the pool clock is not helpful, and doesn't give the feed back to the coach.

Speaking of swimming and coaches... Training Peaks. Coach wanted me to do 1000 for time so after the warmup I reset my watch. But TP counts the warmup as the workout so it doesn't show it as completed because it was too short. Anyone have experience with this?

Which watch do you use?

I have not had the TP issue, sorry!

TP will take the *first* workout of the type (swim, bike, run) as the one to use.  You can remove it by going into the workout TP and clicking Files in the top right.  Download and then Remove warmup file that's there.

Go into Garmin and download the the 1000 file (TCX) using the gear icon in the upper right.  Add the TCX file from Garmin to workout that you want to contain the 1000.

Upload the warmup file if you want "credit" for that one as well.

TL;DR

1. In TP, download and then remove the file that's there.
2. In Garmin, download the TCX version of the 1000.
3. In TP, add the 1000.tcx file to the workout
4. Optional: In TP, upload  the warmup.tcx file.

I have the 910XT

Thanks!

Hmmmm... that's a lot to go through to have my workout turn green

I have not uploaded swim workout to my watch (I use the poolside baggie method), however, I do run workouts on my watch all the time and I have to it the lap button to go to the next step.

P.S. I do not use the workouts on the watch for outdoor cycling because (1) safety, want to start my intervals when it's safe to do so -- you know, AFTER the stop sign, etc. and (2) no autopause.  When running, I go early enough that traffic is generally not an issue!

But green is good!

I think that you are SOL.  I think that it was added for the 735XT and ported to the 920XT and the Fenix 3.

Garmin 920XT – Swim Workouts….Finally introduced alongside 735XT

Structured swim workouts – a first with the Garmin 735XT multisport watch.

Right?! Not having it green is really bugging me! I suppose it'll only be an issue when he wants me testing for time, otherwise I don't restart.

Good to know it's an option if the run gets more complicated.

I did my first run workup using an uploaded workout and it went from segment to segment without me having to do anything! But, the run and swim workouts are built differently, since there is no just stop and rest for x time on the run.

Good thought about not using the watch for your bike workouts!  

Maybe add your own "warmup" workout those days? You'd have to put in a time of day to get the warmup one to appear before the 1000 one.  Would that work? 

Uh, you're right.   What I do is for my warmup, I usually do something lie "until I press the lap button" and then I do the 3 x5 @3 recovery or whatever and then for cool down, I do the "until I press the lap button" again.  Doh!

Has the programming become easier and have more options to put in? I hated it a few years ago, finding it simpler to just remember things. Also didn't like how rigid it was. Warm-up is done when I'm ready for it to be. Sometimes it's 10 minutes others need more than 20. The intervals and repetitions I've liked to start at very specific spots with rest intervals being more guidelines, particularly with the faster Repetitions. Short as they are, they still have a several minute window until the next (60" gets 2-4' of recovery). Seemingly small changes in pace make a notable difference in recovery time. Also watching for traffic or other things as these tend to loop in a tight section of roadway.

Originally posted by TXTriRook Did anyone get the new 735XT? I have the 920XT and I love everything about it except for the HR strap. No matter how tight I make it, when I sweat it always seems to slip and I feel like I'm wearing a bra without the shoulder straps. For the record I've never worn or tried on a bra but for now it's the best analogy I can come up with . I definitely don't have plans to spend $500+ just for an inconvenience but I'd be interested to hear thoughts/opinions if any of you have taken the plunge.

I agree that the HR strap is a pain! Before I started working with Coach I hadn't used it since... the last time I worked with him

I've heard the fitbit type watches aren't very accurate for HR but they sure are more comfortable! I have the 910XT. It works for what I need but it would be nice if I didn't feel like I have a wall clock on my wrist.