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2024-01-03 2:50 AM
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Happy New Year BDASers!! 

Finished up the month (and year) strong with a 5 mile run on Sunday.  Totals for the year:

Swim: 52h 04m 19s - 127634.11 Yd (under plan by about 25K yards, but I missed like six weeks in Oct / Nov traveling and when I cut my hand)
Bike: 148h 52m 46s - 2788.52 Mi (just under plan, but close enough...about 100 miles longer than 2022)
Run: 61h 32m 28s - 321.8 Mi (thumbs up - I think a little above plan and longest run year since 2014)
Strength: 103h 23m
Hiking: 66h 54m - 200 Mi (this is my fast walking my wife and I do - a good compliment to running)

Working through my goals for 2024 now, though the primary focus is going to be qualifying for Age Group Nationals in the sprint distance.




Well, December consisted of a taper week, a recovery week and 2 unscheduled weeks off, so we won't be talking December numbers.

For 2023:

Swim: 27,600m 11:36:08
Bike: 4,127km 160:45:06
Run: 979km 129:04:19

Total of 301 hours and 25 minutes.

If I hadn't ended up with 2 weeks of zero to end the year would have been my 2nd biggest year ever. It ended up about an hour less than 2020. Pretty happy with how I went. The main goal for the year was consistency and I think I greatly improved that from the last few years.

2024, I'm aiming for 10 hours a week, so 500 hours total. Splits to be determined.


2024-01-03 7:36 AM
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Originally posted by bulfrog  I'm going to go in a different direction to the others. Yes, lots of training plans would say 3 runs/week as you've described is the way to go. And you'd do well with it I'm sure. But I find frequency really matters for my running. I would suggest keeping your 2 quality runs (long/interval) but rather than just 1 extra at least 2 or 3. Do a jog as warm up for your strength, do a brick after a bike, fit them in somewhere. I'd also point out that you don't need to do every type of run every week. Maybe a long run 5 or 6 miles once every 2-3 weeks rather than forcing a 4 mile longish run every week. If you're sticking to your 9 miles/week maybe: Week A, 3 x 2 mile easy, 1 x 3 mile tempo = 9 miles Week B, 2 x 1 mile brick, 2 x 2 mile easy, 1 x 3 mile with intervals = 9 miles Wweek C, 2 x 2 mile easy, 1 x 5 mile long with fast finish. = 9 miles

Hmmmm...interesting and not something I've thought of, though I am a big proponent of frequency in running and had my best results running 5x/week.  I'll have to play around with scheduling to see how that would work.

2024-01-03 8:13 AM
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I finished out 2023 on a pretty quiet note, but overall, I'm super happy with how the year turned out. I'm particularly happy with the strength numbers, as I have not been able to be consistent with that aspect of training...pretty much ever. So, taking into account 10 weeks off due to elbow surgery (and a bit of laziness getting back into it after the rehab period was over), I'm stoked to see that number.

Swim: 105h 03m 59s - 245729.55 Yd
Bike: 186h 32m 57s - 780.11 Mi--distance does not include any trainer "miles"
Run: 161h 13m 36s - 712.44 Mi
Strength: 39h 40m

TrainingPeaks told me last night in my 2023 year end wrap up that the distance traveled (167x miles) is equal to 4.3 million corgis lined up nose to tail, proving once again Americans will use ANYTHING but metric. :D. I personally think we should do all our distance metrics in the unit of corgi from now on.

I took a bit after my dog and noped right out of going outside this morning. I was dressed and almost ready for my run, but then I made the mistake of checking the temperature to see which hat I needed to wear. At 24F (-4.5C), I decided I could just do that run a little later. I am in no way ready for the winter of Illinois (which I appreciate is no where near the winter of other places). Every year that transition from warm, sunny Egypt to cold, gray Illinois gets a bit harder. I think the biggest issue is that there is no gradual transition--it is a one day sunny and warm, next day cold and gray situation. If I stayed home, there would be the slow decline to cold, which would probably acclimate me a bit better. Anyway, the plan is to get my run in at lunchtime.
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I did get in that run—35’ foundation run. Not exciting, but done.
2024-01-03 6:51 PM
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I'm 100% aligned with corgi measurements - they're quick little buggers and herding dogs are always cool. 

Today was a double (triple?) with a 2500 swim finally feeling the water again and then working through a weekly progression of harder 1' intervals on the bike at lunchtime, which cracked me today on the last interval.  Got to 6 x 1' @ 135% before losing it today, so I'll give it another go next week.  Not even sure what this is supposed to benefit, just something to shoot for in December/January on the trainer LOL.  PT went well - they're given me some pretty hard hip/core workouts which are helping I think.

2024-01-04 1:48 AM
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Originally posted by jmhpsu93
and had my best results running 5x/week. 


From my very uneducated position, that statement answers the question for yourself I think.


2024-01-04 1:55 AM
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Nice year Gretchen. Expectedly solid numbers.

Wednesday and Thursday have both been an hour zwift ride and a short easy treadmill run, only about 3,000 corgis. At the moment I[m just kind of going through the motions, getting used to moving again. After such a disrupted December, with rest, recovery and taper weeks it's been 6 weeks since my last decent training week.

I guess that means 4-6 weeks or so to build back up to where I was.

Hope everyone is having a good week.
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Here’s my 2023 numbers

Run 1076 km 135:36 hours
Bike 1696 km (trainer excluded) 141 hours (trainer included)
Swim 42.13 km. Garmin doesn’t give me total time.
Strength, 18h45- embarrassing

not sure about the values in corgis, it's hard enough not converting to miles






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2024-01-04 3:00 PM
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Originally posted by Rollergirl

Here’s my 2023 numbers

Run 1076 km 135:36 hours
Bike 1696 km (trainer excluded) 141 hours (trainer included)
Swim 42.13 km. Garmin doesn’t give me total time.
Strength, 18h45- embarrassing

not sure about the values in corgis, it's hard enough not converting to miles







solid year!

Also...I hearby declare the corgi to be our new, mutual unit of measure. If we're gonna convert from miles to km and m to yds, why not do it to corgis!
1 corgi=0.61m/0.67yds

2024-01-04 3:04 PM
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Originally posted by bulfrog
Originally posted by jmhpsu93 and had my best results running 5x/week. 
From my very uneducated position, that statement answers the question for yourself I think.

But it will be a cycling build, just trying to not lose a ton of run fitness.  Here's the view of my weekly plan:

Wednesday and Friday are morning/lunch doubles, Saturday is Bikram Yoga. 

Tuesday:  45 min ride with anaerobic intervals
Wednesday:  1 hour ride with threshold / VO2 max intervals
Thursday:  22 min warmup
Friday:  endurance ride, building to two hours
Sunday:  45 minutes Z2 on the Stealth (tri bike) before my long run

I'd be pretty pressed time-wise to squeeze in another run somewhere - MAYBE Wednesday.

 

 

 

2024-01-04 3:07 PM
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Nice run totals this year, everyone.  Measured in corgis or otherwise. 



2024-01-04 3:09 PM
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Originally posted by drfoodlove
Originally posted by Rollergirl Here’s my 2023 numbers Run 1076 km 135:36 hours Bike 1696 km (trainer excluded) 141 hours (trainer included) Swim 42.13 km. Garmin doesn’t give me total time. Strength, 18h45- embarrassing not sure about the values in corgis, it's hard enough not converting to miles
solid year! Also...I hearby declare the corgi to be our new, mutual unit of measure. If we're gonna convert from miles to km and m to yds, why not do it to corgis! 1 corgi=0.61m/0.67yds

I also think we should allow for some metric-style prefixes, like kilocorgis, to describe longer distances for runs and rides.

2024-01-04 3:10 PM
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I saw 2800 corgis this morning in a terrible decision. I guess there has to be a day when you go back to the pool after a break, but man...that was rough. My arms feel like jelly and I'm so tired today, despite a full night of sleep! It has to be the swimming--it always makes me tired. I could really feel the three months off. Later in the afternoon I did a 38' fartlek run, which was fun, especially since I was wearing shorts in January while doing it!

I laid out my training plan to get to MiTi in August this morning. I warn you, it is intense. I opted for the Level 3 80/20 plan, which is aimed at "exceptionally ambitious triathletes willing to invest significant time in becoming an Ironman Demi-god." :D. That plan is like 24 weeks long, which would start on March 4, but I like a bit more time to get acclimated to training loads, so I added it to training peaks with the end date of my race (Aug 11) and then copied the first week to next week and the week after, the second week to two weeks from now and three weeks from now...etc. Essentially I do each of the first 6 weeks twice, except for the rest weeks, and then when I hit the 18 weeks til race day mark, I'm off on the original plan. This is what I did last year and it seemed to work out pretty well for me. Of course...I have the marathon at the end of April, so I deleted all the runs in the triathlon plan until end of April and overlayed the 16 weeks of marathon training on top of the 140.6 plan...and then added strength two days a week. I'm a little scared of this plan I've created, but also a bit excited to see if I can conquer it. Don't worry though, I gave myself a rest day the day after the marathon. :D

2024-01-05 1:15 AM
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Originally posted by drfoodlove
Originally posted by Rollergirl Here’s my 2023 numbers Run 1076 km 135:36 hours Bike 1696 km (trainer excluded) 141 hours (trainer included) Swim 42.13 km. Garmin doesn’t give me total time. Strength, 18h45- embarrassing not sure about the values in corgis, it's hard enough not converting to miles
solid year! Also...I hearby declare the corgi to be our new, mutual unit of measure. If we're gonna convert from miles to km and m to yds, why not do it to corgis! 1 corgi=0.61m/0.67yds

I also think we should allow for some metric-style prefixes, like kilocorgis, to describe longer distances for runs and rides.





LOL, you guys crack me up . Great idea!

I agree, kilocorgis for longer distances is a must or it will be long numbers otherwise. Should we use the letter ”c” as the official unit symbol , or ”kc” för kilocorgis?

2024-01-05 2:12 AM
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Where did you get your phd in training plan Gretchen? Did you have to study 3 or 4 years?

Originally posted by drfoodlove I'm a little scared of this plan I've created


you sound like Dr Frankenstein

2024-01-05 8:44 AM
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@Gretchen:  I like your training plan...seven months is probably a little long but with your run focus for the first three months I think that'll change things up enough to manage.  I would definitely add a transition week after the marathon with just getting-healthy training, otherwise I'd be worried about never getting out of that hole and impacting your IM training.  Just Coach Mike's input here, but that's also coming from someone who has run himself into two major injuries in the past 15 years, so there's that. 

A strong start to 2024 continues for me with a tempo run and "legs day" at the gym yesterday, then this morning 2,000 corgis in the pool with some upper body strength training, which will be followed by a 30-minute ride on The Stealth Bomber and a short frequency run at lunch.  Finally I'll go beat myself up in PT again this afternoon.  Happy Friday!



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Man you guys are on fire!

Andrew - I'm not going to run every day (too cold) BUT I have given myself the challenge of doing a Peloton class every day!

Nat - Dry January plus a Peloton class every day this month are my current mini goals! So far so good!

Mike - I couldn't se the view of your weekly plan unfortunately, but the typed out version looks solid!

Gretchen - I'm with you! That is too cold. I want to be less of a pansy about running in the cold, but I just really dislike it.

I'm jealous of all of your totals. I really need to find a good way to track this the way you all do. I am just pretty sure I wouldn't stick with it...why am I like this?!
2024-01-05 3:32 PM
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I've had a decent start to the year. Did some core and yoga Wednesday, a bike boot camp yesterday, but I slept in this morning (just could not wake up), so still need to get my workout in for the day. Probably some strength. I've also been eating well and feeling really motivated. I know it won't last forever, but I'm enjoying it right now.

I took my measurements yesterday so I can have some non-scale victories (NSVs) related to my health, in addition to meeting my activity goals.

Basically my main goal is having balance with work, so focusing on my nutrition and fitness and making sure I do SOMETHING for myself every day will help me with that balance. I hope.

Have a great weekend everyone!
2024-01-05 7:10 PM
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@Nicole...re:  tracking everything.  I have logs going back almost 15 years here on BT, but the best training tracking platform IMO is Training Peaks.  Integrates seamlessly with Garmin and the TSS (Training Stress Score) is a great measurement to track progress.  You have to pay for something to have good planning capabilities, but if you're just tracking "hey I did this, how much was it?" TP will do that for you.  You can also buy relatively inexpensive training plans from good coaches (I think that's what Gretchen uses). 

2024-01-06 2:34 AM
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Originally posted by bulfrog
Originally posted by jmhpsu93 and had my best results running 5x/week. 
From my very uneducated position, that statement answers the question for yourself I think.

But it will be a cycling build, just trying to not lose a ton of run fitness.  Here's the view of my weekly plan:



And thats the fun of being a multisport athlete isn't it. It's always a balancing act trying to fit all 3 sports in. There's never enough time to do everything we want/need to.

There's a book, 'time crunched triathlete' I read a year or 2 ago. One of his number 1 tips, everytime you bike, there is a brick run to follow. 5- 10 minutes jogging here and there don't mean much on its own, but over a week suddenly its 30-45 minutes extra. 2-4 hours extra a month etc. it adds up.

FWIW, I don't do this enough myself, so this advice is somewhat hypocritical. haha.
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I just track via the garmin app, good enough for me.

Rather chilly over here this week -15C (5F) at night and -12(10) during the day. It would not stop me from running outside but I’ve caught some bug and am not training at all. Started on Wednesday, still went for a 20min run and 20 zwift ride but it gradually got worse so I’ll let Sick Nat take over. Sick Nat is very good friends with Fat Nat, they agree on how much food should be consumed (too much).

Oh well..

Good idea not to rely solely on the scale to measure your progress. I do that too


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Originally posted by Rollergirl  Good idea not to rely solely on the scale to measure your progress. I do that too

Really good advice. 

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@Andrew—what do you mean there isn’t time to do everything?!? :D.

@Mike—i kinda like Andrew’s suggestion about a quick run off the bike (in addition to your scheduled runs). Sounds like the happy medium you’re looking for.

@Nicole—as Mike said, I have bought training plans off TP before, and I pay the fee (~$100/yr) to have the premium account so I can have all of the metrics (pro tip: if you are going to buy a training plan and the annual subscription, do it at the same time, the subscription is then 25% off), . Buying a plan on TP was a stopgap measure after my coach quit on me with zero notice (he sent me a text that was meant for someone else who was clearly in the know). But…it has really worked out for me. I don’t need the rah rah part of having a coach. I’m internally motivated and really hate having people ask me about my plan for the day/when I’m going to do certain sessions/ how it felt/etc (I’m feral, in short). I just need a structured, progressive plan that I have confidence in. I tried creating my own plan using the Ttiathlon Training Bible, but I had no confidence that it was a good plan. I like the 80/20 plans. They are well written (for the most part) and I’ve been a fan of the 80/20 principle for years. I will mess with the plan a bit though, if I need to (see last comments about adding a marathon on top of IM training!). TP makes it super easy to change the plan on a weekly basis to accommodate your schedule too. I also really like the compliance coloring (green=workout completed as written; orange=80% completed, etc). I really like being able to see my training in that way—strive for all greens! For tracking, I have my Garmin connected to both TP and BT. BT is more just for the final totals each month and at the end of the year and…nostalgia (?). It was the first platform I ever used to track and I have ALL of my triathlong training data here. Plus…I’d have to actually do something to make it stop.

@Nat—sorry to hear you’re sick! Hopefully you get to feeling better soon!
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I ran just under 25,000 corgis this morning. All felt good. Nice crisp morning where I started with gloves, but regretted it about halfway through. Now…on to cleaning out the pantry and my closet. We got a dumpster to haul off the clutter in our house and I intend to fill it to the absolute brim!
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Originally posted by drfoodlove I ran just under 25,000 corgis this morning. 

That's 25 kcs, please.  Geez, get the nomenclature right.  <eyeroll emoji>

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