Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread (Page 77)

JoshKaptur - 2010-03-24 11:15 AM

Dream Chaser - 2010-03-24 9:56 AM

JoshKaptur - 2010-03-24 9:07 AM I am also doing Harryman as my tuneup for LP... now I just need to go register.

Register now to make certain you get a spot.  The combined field for the Olympic and HIM is 400. 

I know!  Part of me keeps hoping it will sell out so I'll be forced to do the Kinetic Half in VA (closer to me, cheaper, more people I know doing it, etc) instead.  Harryman was my black-bear alternative... but life is complicated down here so I'm thinking the simplicity of a semi-local race (I live in the DC area) would be better.

Plus if you're in my AG I don't want to do Harryman with you

Are you thinking of doing the Harryman half or Olympic?  The reason I ask is because the Half is absolutely brutal!! I've heard elite guys say it should be called a 3/4 Ironman instead of a Half.  And I know cause I did the Olympic, and a flat HIM is easier than the Harryman half!!  The bike is just BRUTAL!! 

I'm actually more worried about the Harryman half than IMLP.  I've stated this two people who have done both races, and they concur that it's not crazy to be more worried about Harryman. 

Having said all that (I love that Curb Your Enthusiasm episode - having said that...)  your training looks good and you would do fine at Harryman, you just have to be mentally prepared for a tough, tough day.  Two years ago only two guys went barely sub 5 and the majority of the field finished in 6+ hours, with 25% of the field finishing in 7+ hours!!  That's absurd!!   

Best of Luck in whatever choice you make.

Samoas are my achilles heel.  I could live on them.  Mmmmmmmmmmm..... samoas...

I'm doing Rev3 as well.  It's perfect timing for LP, June 5th.  Also my kids get to play at an amusement park, ride roller coasters, and I get to swim, bike, and run... thats' freaking Heavan!!  And the wife can track me with a locator ... I just might do the whole REV3 series next year if my expectations are met. 

And back to the Race Specific prep-thing:  FoR ME, if I kill my legs with two or three Harryman training rides, race  Harryman, then do a Hilly Rev3 race, LP bike is going to feel so much easier.  It's the same thing with a local race I do every year.  The local race is the Kings Park 15k, and it's the hilliest, toughest road race on Long Island.  I start every Season (race is early March) with that race, and then every Road Race afterwards feels easy by comparison.  And anytime I'm racing another road race and I hit a hill, I think, "This doesn't even come close to Kings Park."  So FOR ME, my experience has been race something brutal and challenging, and then everything else will seem easier.  Not that the second loop of LP will be easy, or running 26.2 miles afterwards, but the first loop may feel like cake due to me doing the crazy hilly courses, and if that's the case, then well that's good enough for me. 

I'll tell you if my theory works for me July 26th!!!

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No, cause Harryman is a 'B Race' and LP is an 'A Race'.  It's also a mental game I play.  If I'm more worried about Harryman it takes my mind off the fact I am doing my first IRONMAN.  Oh ... DC freak out coming... now you did it Fred!!

I think part of my fear with Harryman is based off the fact Harryman was my first Olympic Race.  I did 2 loops of that course with maybe, maybe 600 total miles on the bike ever.  So that course kicked my arse, and at the time I couldn't physically imagine doing an additional 2 loops for 56-miles. 

Also, Harryman bike course is 6,000 feet of elevation.  6,000 feet in 56 miles, when that is more elevation than most Ironman 112 mile bikes.  You gotta respect that!! If you go into that bike cocky and go out too hard, it's gonna spank you.  Also, the numbers speak for themselves, less than 2% of all triathletes go sub 5 at Harryman... once again, more reason for me to really respect this race.