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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ernesto mentions the "Big Book" and I swear by it although as I've mentioned before I am training slightly different. A year ago Ernesto recommended that I by it and start training according to his method. I was in LA moderate temps and a nice breeze off the ocean and most of the time I had to walk to keep my heart rate down. I had zero aerobic base. Moving to Colorado Springs and the altitude changed my training HR number but I am still following the plan. I even convinced my husband to read the book and start training that way. As he mentioned he's been a runner all his life, I'll let him give his own testimony as far as his personal results. The book also gives great nutrition advice! I'm not doing the weight challenge because I know that as soon as I'm eating properly again the few extra lbs fall right off. Today I went for a 1 hour "moderate aerobic" run. Slightly higher HR do to adjusting to the warm temps after the winter. Scott and I decided to run our "Falcon Trail" since we hadn't been on it since last year. I forgot what those hills were like! Even though the HR was high, my RPE was moderate and I could of held a conversation... 1:02 12:34 for a distance of4.94 HR 161. Here's the link if anyone is interested |
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Name: Andy / Username: Climbinggonzo Edited by Climbinggonzo 2012-04-08 7:03 PM |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() charlotte hobbs - 2012-04-08 12:19 PM I must admit knowing that I needed to check in for the challenge kept me away from several "second helpings" this week!
Edited by baurryman 2012-04-08 8:55 PM |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() scottputnam - 2012-04-08 6:19 PM Did I see someone mention a tri training plan that has 6 runs per week? Call me crazy, but I'd run scared from a plan like that.
Not a tri training plan - but something I would like to personally achieve. I haven't seen a tri plan with 6 runs per week - however, the Endurance Nation HIM plans do have you 5 runs per week at least part of the training. I do think there is evidence to support the benefit of shorter (30 minutes or so) easier runs in addition to your longer and more intense runs during a training plan. I get that the bike and swim training can supplement the aerobic base - but there is a lot to running frequency and consistency. Just my two cents. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dangremond - 2012-04-08 10:10 PM scottputnam - 2012-04-08 6:19 PM Did I see someone mention a tri training plan that has 6 runs per week? Call me crazy, but I'd run scared from a plan like that.
Not a tri training plan - but something I would like to personally achieve. I haven't seen a tri plan with 6 runs per week - however, the Endurance Nation HIM plans do have you 5 runs per week at least part of the training. I do think there is evidence to support the benefit of shorter (30 minutes or so) easier runs in addition to your longer and more intense runs during a training plan. I get that the bike and swim training can supplement the aerobic base - but there is a lot to running frequency and consistency. Just my two cents. I have to agree. I don't think it's sustainable during tri training but last fall I started the Barry P plan where you take your weekly mileage and divide by 10. So if I were running 30 miles per week then your short run would be 3, your medium run 6 and your long run 9 miles and you'd follow a schedule where you ran 3-6-3-6-3-9-0. Over time - as it got more comfy - you'd increase your short run by a mile, then your medium and long. It was all very gradual and I felt great. Over time you'd add in tempo and track runs. I didn't get that far. In November I ran 100 miles which was a first for me. But ya... it's definitely more difficult once you add in the bike and swim. I wish my work had a shower so I could do easy short runs on my lunch hour. Oh well. |
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![]() | ![]() Story: I am a young consultant that spends Mon-Thur at client sites in various cities across the map. I competed in the 2011 Chicago Sprint Triathlon after a 6 year break from competitive running and am completely hooked to the sport. Family status: GF of 5 years who is currently completing her masters in cell molecular biology. CURRENT TRAINING: 5 Days a week between 30-45 min runs, 45 min bikes, and 20 min swims THIS YEAR'S RACES: Chicago 2012 Sprint Triathlon- August 26th, 2012 WEIGHTLOSS: 5lbs since March. More interested in improving performance than weight loss since I'm pretty skinny to start out (6'0" 155 lbs) Edited by zhuofm 2012-04-08 10:22 PM |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I hope everyone had a good Easter with their families! I'm adding myself to the challenge also keep track of my weight change, but I'm going the opposite way as I'm trying to gain some weight. A little more than a year ago I was at 180 lbs and since I started doing triathlons a year ago, have drop about 25 lbs. I'm eating a lot right now but with the IM training I can't seem to keep the weight on.
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Member![]() | ![]() Is there room for another begunner? Hi! My name is Grisel, 38 marine biologist....with a very busy live divided between work and graduate studies. I started triathlons 2004, raced untli 2006 got injured IT band and struggled for 4 years. Last year I did 1 race, not a lot of training end result 2:03. This year I started working out in November. Triathlon focused training started mid January.Got several work trips where I could not train properly. I did my first race in March with 60% of the training done. I got very scared on the swim, swiminng with a lot of people, I did not do all the swimming workouts end result, 2:15....cramp while swimming. I could not put my head in the water so I swam doggie style, backtroke and did horribly. 49 min swim Bike was pretty good lost of wind 20 k in 46 mins. Run....not good... I even walked!! I have never been able to run, swim or bike faster. I do know I need to train more, and I want to stop feeling like a newbie every year. So this year I decided to do 4 triathlon March 4, next April 29, June 10 and the las one in September. i have increased my swim workouts but still live, work and the weather kept me from the 3 days a week that I want. |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I would like to join your group if there is room. I will post bio later. Thanks. |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ernestov - 2012-04-07 10:23 PM This goes to everybody: The ones that have been in the group in the past know already, but it isn't bad to reiterate. I strongly suggest to all the members of the group to purchase and thoroughly read "The Big Book of Endurance Training and Racing" by Dr. Phil Maffettone. You will find an abundance of easy to follow tricks and tips to become a better athlete, get leaner, faster, efficient and race better. The main focus of the book is training smart, and not hard. Everybody in this group that has put it to the test will tell you that this is no bull. The book sells pretty cheap on the kindle version, like two bucks. The paperback version is inexpensive too and it will get you more speed than any gadget you could ever purchase. If anybody wants to chime in and share their own stories on the success of their training based on this philosophy, do it! Picked it up on the Kindle yesterday. Just started it but makes alotta sense so far. |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thank you for letting me be part of this group. It is obvious after reading everyone's posts to date that we have a good group. Name: Mike User Name: mikar_68 Family status: I am happily married for 23 years and have 3 kids (12,11,9). They are all very supportive and my oldest (daughter) and my 11 year old son are participating with me in my first sprint tri of the year. They are excited and I am very excited to do this with them. Of course they are young and will probably beat me. lol Current training: I LOVE the Triathlon Geek training plans. They seem to test me in so many ways. However, a friend of mine talked me into doing the free Endurance Nation 8 week fast camp with him so I switched to that 4 weeks ago. WOW! Talk about intense. Just in four weeks I can see big improvements in my speed and endurance. I plan to go back to my original Geek HIM plan as soon as I finish the final week of Fast Camp. I am currently putting in just over 11 hours of training per week at this time. This years races: This is my second year in the endurance world. Last year I completed 4 sprint triathlons and this year I am planning on finishing my first OLY, HIM and Half marathon in addition to the same races as last year. I might sneak another HIM in if my first goes well. Carmel, IN. Sprint Tri INDY Mini marathon Pokegon OLY Warsaw Optimist Sprint tri Racine 70.3 Grand Rapids Inaugural Titanium 70.3 (If Racine goes well) Wawasee Kiwanis Sprint Tri The Creek Sprint Tri
Weight Loss: I am currently 52 pounds less than when I first started my triathlon training a year ago. I now weigh 189 lbs. and hope to be 180 lbs before Pokegon OLY. According to the race weight book I read it says this is where I should start for my optimum race weight. For some reason the last 10 pounds seem to be the most difficult to shed. I hope you will help hold me accountable for these last 10 lbs.. 2012 Goals: My first goal is to manage my family and training better this year. I have realized that my training dominated last year and I hope to not let this happen this year. Obviously my second goal is to reach the 180 lb. mark before my OLY. My last big goal is to have PRs at all my sprint distance races that I competed in last year. I don't think this will be hard considering my slow times and my timid approach to the OWS. I have to say my first couple OWS were a little scary. Especially since I had very limited swim experience to begin with. That is enough about me. I am excited and ready to hear the rest of your stories and questions as we move forward together in this adventure.
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Bad weight loss week, I went in the wrong direction. Too much stress and food, not enough training. routine should be normal, and I should be back on track this week.
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Good long ride today. Finally got to go on a path that follows our freeway. Was about 60km with out any stoplights or having to stop. Felt good. Did 78km at a average pace of 32kmph. Will have to head that way again next week or the week after. ![]() Link to ride. http://connect.garmin.com/activity/166547177 Edited by Matthews 2012-04-09 5:51 PM |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Forgot to add a note with my weight loss update - tried on new jeans on Friday - first time since maybe 1996 or so that I fit a 31 inch waist...the hard work eventually pays off! |
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Can't really trust my weight/BF% this week, having some intestinal problems for the last 4 days, already skipped two training sessions, and this week i should be topping my training hours, only four weeks to 70.3 race... Will try to get some brick training today, let's see if i can do it.
About my previous post about aero bar's cycling..., i expressed myself poorly. what i meant to say was that i can't ride in a straight line, i ride and feel going from one side to another, maybe in a half a meter radius. Not sure how to say it other way, im missing the words for it. Will try to check the fitting, any good links for information on how to adjust the bike? |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sammeg - 2012-04-09 7:08 AM ernestov - 2012-04-07 10:23 PM This goes to everybody: The ones that have been in the group in the past know already, but it isn't bad to reiterate. I strongly suggest to all the members of the group to purchase and thoroughly read "The Big Book of Endurance Training and Racing" by Dr. Phil Maffettone. You will find an abundance of easy to follow tricks and tips to become a better athlete, get leaner, faster, efficient and race better. The main focus of the book is training smart, and not hard. Everybody in this group that has put it to the test will tell you that this is no bull. The book sells pretty cheap on the kindle version, like two bucks. The paperback version is inexpensive too and it will get you more speed than any gadget you could ever purchase. If anybody wants to chime in and share their own stories on the success of their training based on this philosophy, do it! Picked it up on the Kindle yesterday. Just started it but makes alotta sense so far. I started training using this method in January. I was frusterated because I had plateaued and had not seen any gains in a very long time. It seems like I would work had get exhausted and nothing. At the suggestion of Ernesto, and encouragment from the group, I gave it a try. I asked a lot of questions ( right Ernesto The biggerst thing I have found after four months is that my heart rate is about 9 bpm slower at the same pace. The end result is when I push myself to my MAF. Looking at my own log. I ran 9.5 miles at an average of 9 bpm below my MAF two weeks ago. I ran 10 at MAF average the difference between the times was 1 second. When I started I struggled to keep below my MAF and it felt too slow. I kept thinking, this is stupid and slow. Now I can do more volume with less effort. I'm sure that part of it is consistant training, but I do't think I would have the volume I have now, because training at the lower heart rate I felt better and was able to increase distances easier. Edited by JBacarella 2012-04-09 9:02 AM |
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![]() | ![]() I finally understand the frustration people feel with injuries... I pulled my hamstring last week. First injury since starting to train for triathlons a few months ago. I guess maybe I was just a little bit excited coming off my first triathlon last week and pushed it really hard with my run and my bike last week. By Thursday I could really feel the tightness in my hamstring so decided to take a few days off. Saturday tried to do an easy run but still had to stop several times to stretch. Was able to do an easy bike today without aggravating it.Now I'm wondering, from a coach's perspective and a training perspective, what is the best way forward from an injury like this? Can I just keep going now with the same training plan and scale back the intensity? Do I need to take 1, 2, or even 3 weeks off of running entirely? When I feel the pain while training (esp running), do I just push through it as long as I'm taking it easy? I know that stretching, taking it easy, and taking a few days off are all important, but any advice on how to adjust my training plan and how else to move forward would be appreciated.Thanks for the help!--Owen Edited by ojscott05 2012-04-09 1:22 PM |
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![]() | ![]() I don't know if deep water running is good for hamstring issues, but I'm becoming a big fan of it. Today I did intervals. BUT I also ran outside two miles today and 1 mile yesterday. Achilles felt ok both runs. So I'm easing back in to training for my marathon. I ran both runs barefoot, but I'm adopting a strategy of barefoot or FiveFingers for most runs, but shoes for longer runs (say longer than 10 miles) and races. I bought a pair of Newton mv2s. Almost as light as my FiveFingers (about 6.8 ounces). |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 13 mile bike ride at lunch in 42:42. The wind was whipping me around like a pinata. It seemed like the wind was coming from every direction, except a tail wind. It was nice to back in the saddle after a week. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Slow run this morning. 60 minutes at 6.7mph... so I guess that put me at 6.7 miles! All I could think about with the Maffette book which I will be buying today. I had a lot of doubts about his training method. If you pull up this thread from last quarter you see my series of questions and Ernesto's patience with me while I worked my way through it. I have to admit, it has helped me increase volume, gain speed over longer distances, and remain injury free. It was really big for me to increase volume and gain speed. Before I started using it, I would rabbit and then blow up on longer distances. It was very frusterating to run near the fromt of the pack only to get passed in the last half mile and have nothing in the tank to fight it off. I didn't go for his diet plan, I am more of a old school count calories, food pyramid kind of guy. Lost a lot of weight that way with walking being my exercise choice before I got into triathlon. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() chris2533 - 2012-04-09 1:15 PM I don't know if deep water running is good for hamstring issues, but I'm becoming a big fan of it. Today I did intervals. BUT I also ran outside two miles today and 1 mile yesterday. Achilles felt ok both runs. So I'm easing back in to training for my marathon. I ran both runs barefoot, but I'm adopting a strategy of barefoot or FiveFingers for most runs, but shoes for longer runs (say longer than 10 miles) and races. I bought a pair of Newton mv2s. Almost as light as my FiveFingers (about 6.8 ounces). I've prayed for this moment Chris, I know how much of a believer you are, but that transition to nothing is long and painful. You've been on soles for more than forty years and not only you have taken them out of the equation, you have also increased your running mileage by a lot. You will notice a difference, not only in comfort but speed as well.Take it easy though... |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Mike, Michael and Owen, welcome to the club. You are the last three to get in the group for this season. We're officially closed to new entrants. |
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