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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Hey peeps...been of the grid for a couple of days. I totally blew off the weekend because I felt better served resting. I was really cooked late last week so I figured a day or two down wouldn't hurt. I've had two pretty good days Mon/Tues - 60' Z2 trainer and a good swim/strength session yesterday and a good tempo run and short swim today. I guess it worked. About to pull the trigger on a race 750M/19.5mile/3.3mile - just over a sprint distance and the longer bike helps me, and I've done the race twice so I know the course. HI Mike - No worries - I blew off my long ride this weekend and while I felt guilty about it - I just didn't have the mojo to pull it off. Then again - I'm not working out as hard as you. I like the idea of a longer bike for a sprint tri. I think you're going to end up crushing it! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() OK - Quick update.... The gatorskins worked ok - but then again - I only changed the back tire. I will see what happens and may switch tires for the the Ironman. I'm just sick and tired of getting flats (three days in a row). My speed ride today was pretty good but I lacked the right mindset. Speed work outs should hurt and I couldn't pull the trigger on getting into the pain range. I really am struggling with my mental focus since hearing that the job that I thought was mine got taken away from me thanks to a bad recommendation. Back to square one. So frustrated. Other thoughts about todays ride - sick and tired of people not giving me space on the road. Some do but most don't and it pisses me off. How hard is it to slow down a bit and moving over so that you give me at least three bleeping feet. Hate to say it but there are a lot of uneducated drivers up here in the Michigan styx! My niece came up and brought beer. So far: REdankulous - Founds Sidekick - Two Brothers Full Circle Kolsch - by New Holland - best so far. Plenty more beers to come! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I just had one more thought - Anyone want to create a spotify BDAS Spotify playlist. We would each add our favorite 10 songs and then all get to listen to it during our workouts? We made one last year that totally rocked! Any interest? I started one tonight - here's the link which you can use to add songs to the playlist: https://open.spotify.com/user/1228926622/playlist/1QXymjE4geaUkuRJSM... CLU from Tron - One of Alan's favorite biking songs The Battle from Gladiator - When I hear it - I want to kill someone SOB Symphony No.4 - The music from Breaking Away when he chases the truck Lose Yourself - the quintessential training song Roll with the Changes Devil Went down To Georgia Yeager's Triumph - From Right Stuff (To me it means never quitting) Rocky - Doesn't get much better Gimme Shelter - Favorite Stone's Tune. Edited by Qua17 2016-07-12 6:34 PM |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Fourteenkittens I've been MIA for a few months, and I wish I could say it was because I was too busy to post. Instead I just fell off the wagon and haven't been motivated to do much of anything by way of swim/bike/run. But that changes today! I got laid off from my job of 6 years this past week, which is actually a good thing. I'd been pretty bored for a while (a contributor to the lack of motivation up top), and had been causally looking for a new job since the spring. But the pay and the hours were good, and I liked my coworkers, so it was hard to really get motivated to leave. Anyway, last week my company announced they were cutting about half of our office, including my entire department. So now I have lots of motivation to get after a new job, plus a few months of severance and a new found feeling of freedom. But first I get to enjoy the summer! For the first time in years I actually have the time to train according to a plan, rather than getting by with whatever fits in my lunch break. I'm going to be building off a half-century plan I've always wanted to do, and layering runs into the plan's off days. Swimming will continue to be relatively neglected. Welcome back Dennis - we have missed you! Sorry to hear about your job but good luck with your training! |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Morning workout #1: masters swim of 2200m (coach got a little long winded this morning, so distance is a little short). #2 coming up--I'll post after it is done. I wanna beat those Manatees!! |
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Originally posted by Qua17 1. Aerobars are useless for someone who goes about 15 miles per hours. He says that the benefits to lower wind resistance is wiped out by the increase in how hard you have to pedel - that it messes with your form and stroke. More like 15 kilometres per hour. At 15mph you're definitely getting Aero benefit from riding on them. You don't have to pedal any harder if you've adapted to the position. You are a triathlete, which means you should be spending your time riding in the aero bars as often as possible even if you're riding too slow to get the aero benefit. Your musculature needs to adapt to the position. Consider excellent climbers in the Tour de France. They have roughly the same FTP as GC guys and TT specialists. Both Quintana and Froome produce similar power for 20minutes but Froomey is a better TT because spends a lot of time training that area. Another example. One of my teammates is a through and through climber. His FTP is 350 watts. Mine is 320watts. Up hills he wrecks me. In TTs I can wreck him. Why? Because in a TT he can only produce 300 watts for a 15km TT. I however can produce my full 320 watt FTP for 15km because I've spent so much time riding on the aero bars whereas he spends almost none.
Originally posted by Qua172. I should by up out of my saddle more. I've always been taught that I should be conservative in getting out of my saddle - especially on hills because I'm, in the words of Charles Shepard, burning matches that I won't have on the run. He thinks I should be out of my saddle as I head up entire hills not just at the top of bottom of the hill. Thoughts? He's pointing out so many other flaws in my style and I'm grateful for the feedback - but these two issues just seem to go against what I know about the strategy in tri. Thoughts? Again, you are a triathlete. A bike racer needs to have a lot of out of saddle power to accelerate up climbs and blast over short punchy ones in order to stay with the group and respond to attacks. Bike racers have the benefit of being able to recover in the draft once over the climb. Triathletes need to maintain a steady tempo effort in order to best make use of their effort over the duration of the course. You can't ease off the pedals over the crest so you don't want to be gassed when you get there. Riding out of the saddle does produce more power but it also fatigues the muscles quicker and it will destroy your legs for the run. Sometimes on long climbs or very steep climbs you need to get out of the saddle to change things up but it should never be the basis of your climbing strategy. I'd really love to come visit you and go for a ride with this guy just so I can blow past him up a climb seated on my TT bars.... :P maybe even shoot him the famous Armstrong look... (Im a little grumpy right now, I sheered my derailleur hanger off last night after a crash. Not even as a result of the crash. My di2 rear derailleur went into crash lockout mode and I just needed neutral support to reset it because I forgot how. Instead they went at my bike with screwdrivers and screw up the limit screws which then sent the derailleur into the spokes. Stupid neutral support). Edited by adempsey10 2016-07-13 8:48 AM (lancethelook-med2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- lancethelook-med2.jpg (44KB - 4 downloads) |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 6 AM swim, 2300 SCY.. Main set was a 1K threshold ladder - a really good race prep set. It's 25/50/75/100/150/200 then back down, all at or below target race pace, rest intervals are the previous interval length divided by 10 in seconds, so after the 25 you rest 3 seconds, then 5 seconds after the 50, etc. Was really happy I could hold 1:45 or better throughout. And the pool was almost empty this morning, which was a plus since my last two swims have been when the pool has been packed with non-swimmers. Will try to get in another Z2 ride at lunch today - still taking it easy on the bike to make sure the knee doesn't flare up again.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Originally posted by aviatrix802 2500 yds in the pool yesterday and 3500 today. Just came in from a very warm hour run with intervals - blech. I tried Nuun again on this run since it is so hot out...dang, I just can't drink it, almost made me throw up. On to other things. Hubby and oldest head to the Gaspe Peninsula in Canada tomorrow for a week of fly fishing for salmon. I'm excited to hang with my 9 year old but also seriously wondering how the heck I'm going to get some of my longer workouts in since he's a bit young to leave alone. It looks like I will be using the trainer for the next week and have him ride his bike next to me while I run. Swimming will have to be at the pool and due it being so busy, folks won't allow him in the pool with me since he won't really be "swimming", as in, doing laps. We will play that by ear - maybe he can or maybe that's when he gets his hour of tablet time. I have a 5.5-6 hour bike ride this Saturday, do you think it's okay to maybe do 2 hours on the trainer, 2-3 hours outside (weather pending and my folks watching my son) then another 1.5-2 hours on the trainer again? That's going to be an all-day affair I feel, to pull it off, but what else can I do? I'd split it up into 3 2 hour trainer segments spread through the day but that doesn't really count for a long ride. It's tough timing with the next 2-3 weeks being my longest training hours. I can't afford to miss anything more. Though obviously you're not going to get quite the same benefit as the sport-specific 6 hour ride outdoors, you'll be able to at least equal the training stress prescribed by your plan. I'd love to hear Alan chime in on this. You could just ride for six straight hours on the trainer. What he said. One thing you can do is limit your carb intake between sessions (and also during the ride) and fuel solely on fats and proteins (nuts, seeds, peanut butter, yogurt, avocado, lean meats etc.). It will inhibit glycogen replenishment, which also means you won't recover as well, but it will better simulate the effect a long 6 hour ride will have on your body. This is assuming you're riding at the endurance (zone 2) effort. Don't starve yourself of carbs if you're going to be doing higher intensity efforts. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Workout #2--one hour hill repeats on the bike. Dying over here now and my parents will be here in 15 minutes to help dig nditches in the back yard to fix the leaky basement issue. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmhpsu93 6 AM swim, 2300 SCY.. Main set was a 1K threshold ladder - a really good race prep set. It's 25/50/75/100/150/200 then back down, all at or below target race pace, rest intervals are the previous interval length divided by 10 in seconds, so after the 25 you rest 3 seconds, then 5 seconds after the 50, etc. Was really happy I could hold 1:45 or better throughout. And the pool was almost empty this morning, which was a plus since my last two swims have been when the pool has been packed with non-swimmers. Will try to get in another Z2 ride at lunch today - still taking it easy on the bike to make sure the knee doesn't flare up again.
Holy smokes, great effort! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by adempsey10 Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Originally posted by aviatrix802 2500 yds in the pool yesterday and 3500 today. Just came in from a very warm hour run with intervals - blech. I tried Nuun again on this run since it is so hot out...dang, I just can't drink it, almost made me throw up. On to other things. Hubby and oldest head to the Gaspe Peninsula in Canada tomorrow for a week of fly fishing for salmon. I'm excited to hang with my 9 year old but also seriously wondering how the heck I'm going to get some of my longer workouts in since he's a bit young to leave alone. It looks like I will be using the trainer for the next week and have him ride his bike next to me while I run. Swimming will have to be at the pool and due it being so busy, folks won't allow him in the pool with me since he won't really be "swimming", as in, doing laps. We will play that by ear - maybe he can or maybe that's when he gets his hour of tablet time. I have a 5.5-6 hour bike ride this Saturday, do you think it's okay to maybe do 2 hours on the trainer, 2-3 hours outside (weather pending and my folks watching my son) then another 1.5-2 hours on the trainer again? That's going to be an all-day affair I feel, to pull it off, but what else can I do? I'd split it up into 3 2 hour trainer segments spread through the day but that doesn't really count for a long ride. It's tough timing with the next 2-3 weeks being my longest training hours. I can't afford to miss anything more. Though obviously you're not going to get quite the same benefit as the sport-specific 6 hour ride outdoors, you'll be able to at least equal the training stress prescribed by your plan. I'd love to hear Alan chime in on this. You could just ride for six straight hours on the trainer. What he said. One thing you can do is limit your carb intake between sessions (and also during the ride) and fuel solely on fats and proteins (nuts, seeds, peanut butter, yogurt, avocado, lean meats etc.). It will inhibit glycogen replenishment, which also means you won't recover as well, but it will better simulate the effect a long 6 hour ride will have on your body. This is assuming you're riding at the endurance (zone 2) effort. Don't starve yourself of carbs if you're going to be doing higher intensity efforts. Thank you for the beta, guys! I'm waiting to see what the weather will do and how long my folks can take my little guys (or how long my little guy can take my folks! ![]() I'm also thinking about splitting it evenly between the two bikes so I can ease into longer rides on the tri bike. Zone 2 is relative here with the hills. I try to get some elevation to at least equal the race course but that means climbing...so I look for an average of zone 2 at this point. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by drfoodlove Workout #2--one hour hill repeats on the bike. Dying over here now and my parents will be here in 15 minutes to help dig nditches in the back yard to fix the leaky basement issue. Good job, Gretchen! Hill repeats suck, but are sooooo good. You won't regret doing them!! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by adempsey10
Originally posted by Qua17 .
Originally posted by Qua172. .... :P maybe even shoot him the famous Armstrong look...
Hilarious!!! I could never do that...everyone I pass on the uphill sails by me going down the other side! hahahaha |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Run/bike brick coming up this afternoon...It's high 80's here right now. Picture below.....just yummy. (maple waffle.jpg) Attachments ---------------- maple waffle.jpg (47KB - 3 downloads) |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmhpsu93 6 AM swim, 2300 SCY.. Main set was a 1K threshold ladder - a really good race prep set. It's 25/50/75/100/150/200 then back down, all at or below target race pace, rest intervals are the previous interval length divided by 10 in seconds, so after the 25 you rest 3 seconds, then 5 seconds after the 50, etc. Was really happy I could hold 1:45 or better throughout. And the pool was almost empty this morning, which was a plus since my last two swims have been when the pool has been packed with non-swimmers. Will try to get in another Z2 ride at lunch today - still taking it easy on the bike to make sure the knee doesn't flare up again.
Annnnnd done. 60' but actually pushed a bit into Z3/Z4 sweet spot area. I'm fiddling around with my seat position after replacing my old one (the OEM which was falling apart). I might get around to posting a pic or video for some fit advice - but I'm a little technologically challenged. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Just finished up my run for today. I went to a park in town I'd never been to before, got a bit turned around, and didn't end up doing the longer path I'd intended to. I think I can live with it though, given that it was over 90 degrees and far hillier than I'd expected. But now that I know where all the hills in town are hiding, I plan to back on a regular basis (just maybe not in the middle of the afternoon). I was on the bike yesterday and fit in both a short run and ride on Monday. My conditioning is gone, but it feels good to be back out there again, following a plan, and working up a sweat. I hadn't realized just how much that job was dragging down other aspects of my life, until I was done with it. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() With two weeks until my first triathlon of the season (sprint w/ long swim and bike) I finally made it out for a decent bike ride (20 miles). Wow did my legs feel it and my back is not used to aero any more. As it's been said around here: "bike training makes for a better run, but run training doesn't make for a better bike" and my focus on long runs this year is a shining example of it. On the swim side of things I'm feeling confident but slow as my troublesome shoulder is being less so. On the topic of beer, I had an incredible beer over the long holiday weekend. My friend got me a bottle of Ace of Spades and it was amazing. Even with a super high IBU the hops were complex and not overpowering. Highly suggested for any hop lovers! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Morning Bikram Yoga, looking at a lunch treadmill jog - it's like 96 out here today and the "real feel" is like 108, so I'm not even thinking of swimming outside today. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by aviatrix802 Run/bike brick coming up this afternoon...It's high 80's here right now. Picture below.....just yummy. We sell the Endurance Tap gels at our shop. I haven't tried them yet but they look good. From what I can tell it's just maple syrup in gel format. |
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New user ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Gone for almost 2 weeks, sorry - too much work, too much travel for work, and almost zero training....just reading your posts! Seems everyone is working hard (very hard), races are approaching, so I am back into it - no more travelling till September. Bought some caramel waffles and honey waffles from Holland, I think this is going to be my next solid food (along with gels), easy to swallow, full of energy and delicious (would try mapple waffles but not available here) Already looking for another race in Sept/Oct.... Juan Originally posted by Qua17 Hi ALL - I would like us to make it our mission to keep up the good posting. Not only are we supporting each other but we are catching up on the dastardly Manatee Mentor group that leads up by 133 posts. If each of us writes 1 extra post a day - we will catch up to them by the end of September.. We were tops last year - there is no reason why we shouldn't be the best gosh darn group on BT again. Let's do this people! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by drfoodlove Morning workout #1: masters swim of 2200m (coach got a little long winded this morning, so distance is a little short). #2 coming up--I'll post after it is done. I wanna beat those Manatees!! That's what I'm talking about! We were #1 last year and will repeat this year! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks to Alan for the awesome response. I will pay for you to come out here and give the guy the look... He's a nice guy but he keeps bashing triathletes. I've read enough to know that you're right and he's wrong but I don't have the speed or the inclination to be a jerk (even though part of me wants to). My question for today - what do you all do when it come to inflating your tires. I normally inflate to the max pressure of 120 to get more speed. Is that the right way to do it? I hear that sometime pumping it up less can result in even more speed because the bumpts that result from a tight tire actually slow the rider down. Thoughts? Finally - and prep for a little whinning here - but I am so freaking slow. I just went out for an easy ride and averaged 15.5 on my first look, 14.5 on my seecond, and by the time I was done with my last 4 mile loop, my average speed had dropped down to 14.3. GRR - I need to lose weight and work out harder! Otherwise - it's gonna be close for the ironman! Thanks for letting me vent! DQ |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks to Alan for the awesome response. I will pay for you to come out here and give the guy the look... He's a nice guy but he keeps bashing triathletes. I've read enough to know that you're right and he's wrong but I don't have the speed or the inclination to be a jerk (even though part of me wants to). My question for today - what do you all do when it come to inflating your tires. I normally inflate to the max pressure of 120 to get more speed. Is that the right way to do it? I hear that sometime pumping it up less can result in even more speed because the bumpts that result from a tight tire actually slow the rider down. Thoughts? Finally - and prep for a little whinning here - but I am so freaking slow. I just went out for an easy ride and averaged 15.5 on my first look, 14.5 on my seecond, and by the time I was done with my last 4 mile loop, my average speed had dropped down to 14.3. GRR - I need to lose weight and work out harder! Otherwise - it's gonna be close for the ironman! Thanks for letting me vent! DQ |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Juancho Gone for almost 2 weeks, sorry - too much work, too much travel for work, and almost zero training....just reading your posts! Seems everyone is working hard (very hard), races are approaching, so I am back into it - no more travelling till September. Bought some caramel waffles and honey waffles from Holland, I think this is going to be my next solid food (along with gels), easy to swallow, full of energy and delicious (would try mapple waffles but not available here) Already looking for another race in Sept/Oct.... Juan Originally posted by Qua17 Hi ALL - I would like us to make it our mission to keep up the good posting. Not only are we supporting each other but we are catching up on the dastardly Manatee Mentor group that leads up by 133 posts. If each of us writes 1 extra post a day - we will catch up to them by the end of September.. We were tops last year - there is no reason why we shouldn't be the best gosh darn group on BT again. Let's do this people! You're still in post-HIM bliss, so no apologies necessary. Nice job on looking for another race, that'll jump start everything again. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Qua17 Thanks to Alan for the awesome response. I will pay for you to come out here and give the guy the look... He's a nice guy but he keeps bashing triathletes. I've read enough to know that you're right and he's wrong but I don't have the speed or the inclination to be a jerk (even though part of me wants to). My question for today - what do you all do when it come to inflating your tires. I normally inflate to the max pressure of 120 to get more speed. Is that the right way to do it? I hear that sometime pumping it up less can result in even more speed because the bumpts that result from a tight tire actually slow the rider down. Thoughts? Finally - and prep for a little whinning here - but I am so freaking slow. I just went out for an easy ride and averaged 15.5 on my first look, 14.5 on my seecond, and by the time I was done with my last 4 mile loop, my average speed had dropped down to 14.3. GRR - I need to lose weight and work out harder! Otherwise - it's gonna be close for the ironman! Thanks for letting me vent! DQ Again, I think our resident cycling specialist could provide more detail, but I would never max out my tire pressure. By doing so you're creating a damn rough ride and also (in most cases) more rolling resistance. I have a sweet spot of 105 on the front, 110 on the back, and then I'll adjust for road conditions. I'm just shy of 200 lbs (which matters, lighter cyclists don't need as much air pressure - probably an over-generalization but that's the basics). Different tires and tubes act a little differently, too - you just have to experiment a little and see what's comfortable and fastest, or the best combination thereof. |
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