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2008-09-10 2:28 PM
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kraut_fan - 2008-09-10 3:28 PM
wurkit_gurl - 2008-09-10 3:25 PM

 

Untrue. On both accounts.

Really. by choice? I know of guys that have but usually not by choice. I did have a friend stop for 6 months ish before getting married.

I go to a pretty conservative church. You learn A LOT of interesting things about how people see this sort of stuff there. I know guys who were virgins until they got married in their mid-20s and guys who've definitely had sex before but are so freaked out about dating chicks because they think they'll "slip" again, etc, etc.



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wurkit_gurl - 2008-09-10 3:26 PM
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mrbbrad - 2008-09-10 3:21 PM
Artemis - 2008-09-10 3:18 PM

Naughty does not always mean bad.

 

Word History: The word naughty at one time was an all-purpose word similar to bad. During the 16th century one could use naughty to mean "unhealthy, unpleasant, bad (with respect to weather), vicious (of an animal), inferior, or bad in quality" (one could say "very naughtie figes" or "naughty corrupt water". All of these senses have disappeared, however, and naughty is now used mainly in contexts involving mischief or indecency. This recalls its early days in Middle English (with the form noughti), when the word was restricted to the senses "evil, hostile, ineffectual, and needy." Middle English noughti, first recorded in the last quarter of the 14th century, was derived from nought, which primarily meant "nothing" but was also used as a noun meaning "evil" and as an adjective meaning such things as "immoral, weak, useless." Thus naughty, in a sense, has risen from nothing, but its fortunes used to be better than they are at present.

Blah blah...how does that counter my point at all?  All I'm saying is now people DON'T always use it to mean you did something wrong.  

Exactly.

How people use a word and its actual meaning are two different things. You originally referenced the meaning and now you reference the usage. Make a choice. Blah Blah Blah



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mchally - 2008-09-10 3:26 PM In the horny melon thread, when the subject turns to melons, the guys seem to come out of the woodwork.

Did someone say melons? 

2008-09-10 2:31 PM
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I bet.. I need to switch to a conservative church before my children get older. thats for sure. I really don't want them to grow up like I did discussing sex on a normal basis. I thought my wife (high school sweet hearts) was going to die back then when it came up. Now its just everyday.
2008-09-10 2:32 PM
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The subject turns to melons quite frequently in my team thread.  Wink
2008-09-10 2:34 PM
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kraut_fan - 2008-09-10 3:31 PM I bet.. I need to switch to a conservative church before my children get older. thats for sure. I really don't want them to grow up like I did discussing sex on a normal basis. I thought my wife (high school sweet hearts) was going to die back then when it came up. Now its just everyday.

No - don't do that. I know a lot of people who are also really sexually repressed. And people who think I'M a wh0re because I'm not all pure and crap - but I was never slutty or anything, not even close. Tell them the facts. Don't shield them, but teach them right from wrong. There is a lot of good teaching about sex in the church and there is a lot of bad teaching. Unfortunately, the bad teaching seems to stick more than the good. I know a lot of girls who have really warped notions about sex because their parents didn't tell them and the church just told them it was "bad to have before you're married".



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I can see why... sorry!
2008-09-10 2:35 PM
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mchally - 2008-09-10 3:26 PM In the horny melon thread, when the subject turns to melons, the guys seem to come out of the woodwork.

Did someone say melons? 

You really ARE a stalker.

2008-09-10 2:36 PM
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Hey-I managed to commandeer a photo from my race on Sunday...check out my profile pic. I hope that the limited image of melons will be acceptable.

Hey-my calves are actually starting to show some definition. Yay Hooray 



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mrbbrad - 2008-09-10 3:30 PM

How people use a word and its actual meaning are two different things. You originally referenced the meaning and now you reference the usage. Make a choice. Blah Blah Blah

You could have made your point a lot better had you said that in the first place.

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wurkit_gurl - 2008-09-10 3:34 PM

No - don't do that. I know a lot of people who are also really sexually repressed. And people who think I'M a wh0re because I'm not all pure and crap - but I was never slutty or anything, not even close. Tell them the facts. There is a lot of good teaching about sex in the church and there is a lot of bad teaching. Unfortunately, the bad teaching seems to stick more than the good.



There is no teaching of sex in my church at all. and trust me, I am scared. I never thought I would have to sit down and have that talk with my 12 year old. daddy daughter talk. owe so fun! and I had to have a talk with my mother, "mom, minimize the sex talk around the kidz please" that was hard to say as she is in the middle of writing a book..

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wurkit_gurl - 2008-09-10 12:35 PM
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mchally - 2008-09-10 3:26 PM In the horny melon thread, when the subject turns to melons, the guys seem to come out of the woodwork.

Did someone say melons?

You really ARE a stalker.

I must admit I do enjoy the attention-as long as it is strictly internet.  If any of these guys come to find me I will beat them down until they cry for their mothers.  Unless they are invited of courseWink

Maybe I should look into the tasers that have been coming up so frequently... 



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Artemis - 2008-09-10 3:37 PM
mrbbrad - 2008-09-10 3:30 PM

How people use a word and its actual meaning are two different things. You originally referenced the meaning and now you reference the usage. Make a choice. Blah Blah Blah

You could have made your point a lot better had you said that in the first place.

But then we couldn't have had this stimulating discussion. Besides, I can't help it if you don't get it.



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kraut_fan - 2008-09-10 3:37 PM
wurkit_gurl - 2008-09-10 3:34 PM

No - don't do that. I know a lot of people who are also really sexually repressed. And people who think I'M a wh0re because I'm not all pure and crap - but I was never slutty or anything, not even close. Tell them the facts. There is a lot of good teaching about sex in the church and there is a lot of bad teaching. Unfortunately, the bad teaching seems to stick more than the good.

There is no teaching of sex in my church at all. and trust me, I am scared. I never thought I would have to sit down and have that talk with my 12 year old. daddy daughter talk. owe so fun! and I had to have a talk with my mother, "mom, minimize the sex talk around the kidz please" that was hard to say as she is in the middle of writing a book..

I dunno - I don't have kids All I know is that my parents told me how it worked, how pregnancy happened (and didn't happen), what diseases were and generally how I could get them (and we did learn a bit about that in school, thankfully), and how I could protect myself, if for some reason I decided to do it before I got married. And they told me that it was a big deal and not to be taken lightly. I think my mom probably felt like she couldn't tell me "not to do it" because she didn't wait until she was married. I didn't date at all in high school, so I guess I was just lucky that it never became an issue.



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mrbbrad - 2008-09-10 3:41 PM
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mrbbrad - 2008-09-10 3:30 PM

How people use a word and its actual meaning are two different things. You originally referenced the meaning and now you reference the usage. Make a choice. Blah Blah Blah

You could have made your point a lot better had you said that in the first place.

But the we couldn't have had this stimulating discussion. Besides, I can't help it if you don't get it.


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wurkit_gurl - 2008-09-10 12:42 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-09-10 3:34 PM

No - don't do that. I know a lot of people who are also really sexually repressed. And people who think I'M a wh0re because I'm not all pure and crap - but I was never slutty or anything, not even close. Tell them the facts. There is a lot of good teaching about sex in the church and there is a lot of bad teaching. Unfortunately, the bad teaching seems to stick more than the good.

There is no teaching of sex in my church at all. and trust me, I am scared. I never thought I would have to sit down and have that talk with my 12 year old. daddy daughter talk. owe so fun! and I had to have a talk with my mother, "mom, minimize the sex talk around the kidz please" that was hard to say as she is in the middle of writing a book..


I dunno - I don't have kids All I know is that my parents told me how it worked, what diseases were and generally how I could get them (and we did learn a bit about that in school, thankfully), and how I could protect myself, if for some reason I decided to do it before I got married. I didn't date at all in high school, so I guess I was just lucky that it never became an issue.

x2-only I got the disease and protection talk in HS health-they also distributed condoms and bananas so we could 'practice'. The guys were also excused to the little boys room.

I made similar choices...unfortunately, just after HS, there was this one guy who had an obsession and did the whole stalking thing... not cool.

It was really awesome the day my little sis(who was an amazing gymnast) took him on...I would like to think that he learn a lesson that day.  I never saw him again.



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yeah.. all you can do is provide them with best infromation possible. I know my oldest is going to. I'm not stupid. Its just a matter of when and that she is smart about it...
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kraut_fan - 2008-09-10 12:47 PM yeah.. all you can do is provide them with best infromation possible. I know my oldest is going to. I'm not stupid. Its just a matter of when and that she is smart about it...

It is considered the social norm these days-although I don't think it happens as much as people say-at least in HS. But there is a lot of peer pressure...



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not unfortunatly. thats a good thing. we have two sets of friends who "saved" themselves for marriage and have struggle. I have provide both couple with help because you just don't know. you not comfortable the first time or even with the first partner in some cases. I am not a save yourself kind of guy. and and not a about being a tramp either. but enjoy life, SAFELY before you get married. that way your know what makes you happy in that dept and can convey that message to your partner. I know other will say "grow together" but I have seen way to many cases of that not happening. and either counseling or divorce incure
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Rynamite - 2008-09-10 3:54 PM

I go away for a few hours, and come back to a serious sex discussion. Sheesh.


sorry!


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kraut_fan - 2008-09-10 3:52 PM not unfortunatly. thats a good thing. we have two sets of friends who "saved" themselves for marriage and have struggle. I have provide both couple with help because you just don't know. you not comfortable the first time or even with the first partner in some cases. I am not a save yourself kind of guy. and and not a about being a tramp either. but enjoy life, SAFELY before you get married. that way your know what makes you happy in that dept and can convey that message to your partner. I know other will say "grow together" but I have seen way to many cases of that not happening. and either counseling or divorce incure

To be quite honest, for the reasons you posted above, I'm actually glad I "made a mistake". I have a few girlfriends from church who've either gotten married and were still virgins or are just still virgins and who were/are kinda freaked out about it. And they've asked me for advice or asked me questions. I'm glad that I can tell them the truth. The whole spiritual element is one thing, but when you get down to business, it is kind of a freaky process!

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Rynamite - 2008-09-10 3:54 PM I go away for a few hours, and come back to a serious sex discussion. Sheesh.

Hey, but you came back in time. It's almost 4 pm

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wurkit_gurl - 2008-09-10 3:42 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-09-10 3:34 PM

No - don't do that. I know a lot of people who are also really sexually repressed. And people who think I'M a wh0re because I'm not all pure and crap - but I was never slutty or anything, not even close. Tell them the facts. There is a lot of good teaching about sex in the church and there is a lot of bad teaching. Unfortunately, the bad teaching seems to stick more than the good.

There is no teaching of sex in my church at all. and trust me, I am scared. I never thought I would have to sit down and have that talk with my 12 year old. daddy daughter talk. owe so fun! and I had to have a talk with my mother, "mom, minimize the sex talk around the kidz please" that was hard to say as she is in the middle of writing a book..

I dunno - I don't have kids All I know is that my parents told me how it worked, how pregnancy happened (and didn't happen), what diseases were and generally how I could get them (and we did learn a bit about that in school, thankfully), and how I could protect myself, if for some reason I decided to do it before I got married. And they told me that it was a big deal and not to be taken lightly. I think my mom probably felt like she couldn't tell me "not to do it" because she didn't wait until she was married. I didn't date at all in high school, so I guess I was just lucky that it never became an issue.

Read Lauren Winner's Real Sex: The Naked Truth About Chastity... excellent book on sex and the church... very readable. You might not agree with it, but it will certainly cause you to think about it.

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akustix - 2008-09-10 3:57 PM
wurkit_gurl - 2008-09-10 3:42 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-09-10 3:34 PM

No - don't do that. I know a lot of people who are also really sexually repressed. And people who think I'M a wh0re because I'm not all pure and crap - but I was never slutty or anything, not even close. Tell them the facts. There is a lot of good teaching about sex in the church and there is a lot of bad teaching. Unfortunately, the bad teaching seems to stick more than the good.

There is no teaching of sex in my church at all. and trust me, I am scared. I never thought I would have to sit down and have that talk with my 12 year old. daddy daughter talk. owe so fun! and I had to have a talk with my mother, "mom, minimize the sex talk around the kidz please" that was hard to say as she is in the middle of writing a book..

I dunno - I don't have kids All I know is that my parents told me how it worked, how pregnancy happened (and didn't happen), what diseases were and generally how I could get them (and we did learn a bit about that in school, thankfully), and how I could protect myself, if for some reason I decided to do it before I got married. And they told me that it was a big deal and not to be taken lightly. I think my mom probably felt like she couldn't tell me "not to do it" because she didn't wait until she was married. I didn't date at all in high school, so I guess I was just lucky that it never became an issue.

Read Lauren Winner's Real Sex: The Naked Truth About Chastity... excellent book on sex and the church... very readable. You might not agree with it, but it will certainly cause you to think about it.

-B 

 

Read it. Loved it. Also just read "Sex God" by Rob Bell. Both excellent books.

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