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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sluggo312 - 2012-05-14 3:41 PM Woooot woooot Triple T Ohio in the hizzy. I'm looking forward to it. Of course the temps are rising 10 degrees to 87-89. Yeehaw. Roll Call on those doing the American TTT in Ohio this weekend. Maybe I missed the post when someone wrote about this race but I didn't know all that it entailed until just this afternoon. My hat is off to all of you who will be out there this weekend and I'll anxiously look forward to the race reports. Goes w/out saying...race smart and safe. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TTT is going to be my actual first triathlon!!! woot, woot! My nerves are all over the places this week, but I'm ready to go at it! the swim will be very interesting!
On another note, what are you guys eating that fills you up and is not junk food??? I can't get full around here!!! eat, eat and eat... I must go now because I need to fill my stomach again Edited by SEADOCHA 2012-05-14 7:34 PM |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Im on vacation this week so figured Id better get off my butt and join the "century club". I've been in the upper 80's a couple times but had never actually gone a full 100. Picked a route with about 4500' of elevation, and all I can say is...Im not ready yet. My legs were toast...I got off the bike and did about a 1 mile shuffle at the end. No freakin way on Gods green earth I could have run a marathon. It took 6:15 but I stopped for about 10 min to eat, pee, and check my blood sugar...all of which I'll probably have to do during the race anyway. For those of you that have done this before, will we make much improvement in these last 9-10 weeks? I took it fairly easy on the ride, and Im really hoping my legs feel a little better on race day than they did yesterday. Either that or Im looking at a 7hr ride. ( which is fine I guess...I really just want to survive this 1st one) SEADOCHA as far as food goes I cant eat many carbs except just before or during exercise. Im eating boneless, skinless, chicken breast by the case load. I think Im on my 5th 40lb case since 1/1...but its good lean protein and keeps me full. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TheCuse - 2012-05-15 6:12 AM Im on vacation this week so figured Id better get off my butt and join the "century club". I've been in the upper 80's a couple times but had never actually gone a full 100. Picked a route with about 4500' of elevation, and all I can say is...Im not ready yet. My legs were toast...I got off the bike and did about a 1 mile shuffle at the end. No freakin way on Gods green earth I could have run a marathon. It took 6:15 but I stopped for about 10 min to eat, pee, and check my blood sugar...all of which I'll probably have to do during the race anyway. For those of you that have done this before, will we make much improvement in these last 9-10 weeks? I took it fairly easy on the ride, and Im really hoping my legs feel a little better on race day than they did yesterday. Either that or Im looking at a 7hr ride. ( which is fine I guess...I really just want to survive this 1st one) SEADOCHA as far as food goes I cant eat many carbs except just before or during exercise. Im eating boneless, skinless, chicken breast by the case load. I think Im on my 5th 40lb case since 1/1...but its good lean protein and keeps me full.
CUSE it will get easier and with a good Taper your legs will feel alot fresher!!! Where did you ride for your 100? I do alot of riding on 365 through Floyd to Hinkley and up RT 26 up into West Leyden. As far as the eats go I am a Chicken MAn as well my wife knows how tocook int up 100 different ways but I try to eat chicken at least every other day. When not eating Chicken its TUNA and almonds!! |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() triguy1043 - 2012-05-15 6:47 AM Thats some good news on the taper and fresh legs lol... I did a very similar route for the 100. I started in verona and went up 365 to route 8 and then a couple miles up to where it crosses the west canada creek. Took a break at the parking area along the creek, and headed back. Had to add about 10mi of an "out and back" to get 100. Think it turned out was 100.4 and i wasnt going an inch further. I usually head south from here and go down thru munnsville, morrisville, caz, etc...its like going to west leyden...plenty of hills!TheCuse - 2012-05-15 6:12 AM Im on vacation this week so figured Id better get off my butt and join the "century club". I've been in the upper 80's a couple times but had never actually gone a full 100. Picked a route with about 4500' of elevation, and all I can say is...Im not ready yet. My legs were toast...I got off the bike and did about a 1 mile shuffle at the end. No freakin way on Gods green earth I could have run a marathon. It took 6:15 but I stopped for about 10 min to eat, pee, and check my blood sugar...all of which I'll probably have to do during the race anyway. For those of you that have done this before, will we make much improvement in these last 9-10 weeks? I took it fairly easy on the ride, and Im really hoping my legs feel a little better on race day than they did yesterday. Either that or Im looking at a 7hr ride. ( which is fine I guess...I really just want to survive this 1st one) SEADOCHA as far as food goes I cant eat many carbs except just before or during exercise. Im eating boneless, skinless, chicken breast by the case load. I think Im on my 5th 40lb case since 1/1...but its good lean protein and keeps me full.
CUSE it will get easier and with a good Taper your legs will feel alot fresher!!! Where did you ride for your 100? I do alot of riding on 365 through Floyd to Hinkley and up RT 26 up into West Leyden. As far as the eats go I am a Chicken MAn as well my wife knows how tocook int up 100 different ways but I try to eat chicken at least every other day. When not eating Chicken its TUNA and almonds!! |
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![]() SEADOCHA - 2012-05-14 8:28 PM TTT is going to be my actual first triathlon!!! woot, woot! My nerves are all over the places this week, but I'm ready to go at it! the swim will be very interesting!
On another note, what are you guys eating that fills you up and is not junk food??? I can't get full around here!!! eat, eat and eat... I must go now because I need to fill my stomach again Bananas, oatmeal, granola, low-fat yogurt, water.... Triple T is your first triathlon ever!!! Awesome. |
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![]() TheCuse - 2012-05-15 7:12 AM Im on vacation this week so figured Id better get off my butt and join the "century club". I've been in the upper 80's a couple times but had never actually gone a full 100. Picked a route with about 4500' of elevation, and all I can say is...Im not ready yet. My legs were toast...I got off the bike and did about a 1 mile shuffle at the end. No freakin way on Gods green earth I could have run a marathon. It took 6:15 but I stopped for about 10 min to eat, pee, and check my blood sugar...all of which I'll probably have to do during the race anyway. For those of you that have done this before, will we make much improvement in these last 9-10 weeks? I took it fairly easy on the ride, and Im really hoping my legs feel a little better on race day than they did yesterday. Either that or Im looking at a 7hr ride. ( which is fine I guess...I really just want to survive this 1st one) SEADOCHA as far as food goes I cant eat many carbs except just before or during exercise. Im eating boneless, skinless, chicken breast by the case load. I think Im on my 5th 40lb case since 1/1...but its good lean protein and keeps me full. The answer is an emphatic - Yes. All the training we did during the late Winter and Early Spring, was simply to prepare us for the PEAK TRAINING we are about to commence. To get to the top of a 140 Story building, you must go past the first 100 floors first. We have about 40 more floors to go and then REST & TAPER which is when the body will fully absorb this Peak Training and will Repair ; and you will be ready on Race Day. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() SEADOCHA - 2012-05-14 7:28 PM TTT is going to be my actual first triathlon!!! woot, woot! My nerves are all over the places this week, but I'm ready to go at it! the swim will be very interesting!
On another note, what are you guys eating that fills you up and is not junk food??? I can't get full around here!!! eat, eat and eat... I must go now because I need to fill my stomach again Add some good lean proteins to fill you up, and of course, lots of good fruits and veggies. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TheCuse - 2012-05-15 7:12 AM Im on vacation this week so figured Id better get off my butt and join the "century club". I've been in the upper 80's a couple times but had never actually gone a full 100. Picked a route with about 4500' of elevation, and all I can say is...Im not ready yet. My legs were toast...I got off the bike and did about a 1 mile shuffle at the end. No freakin way on Gods green earth I could have run a marathon. It took 6:15 but I stopped for about 10 min to eat, pee, and check my blood sugar...all of which I'll probably have to do during the race anyway. For those of you that have done this before, will we make much improvement in these last 9-10 weeks? I took it fairly easy on the ride, and Im really hoping my legs feel a little better on race day than they did yesterday. Either that or Im looking at a 7hr ride. ( which is fine I guess...I really just want to survive this 1st one) SEADOCHA as far as food goes I cant eat many carbs except just before or during exercise. Im eating boneless, skinless, chicken breast by the case load. I think Im on my 5th 40lb case since 1/1...but its good lean protein and keeps me full.
Also, don't forget the effect of 1) refueling in the days before the race to top off your energy stores for race day and 2) chances are the nutrition and availability of calories and nutrition on race day will likely be superior to your training runs/rides. At least in my case, I tend to have to stretch out what I have available on my bike (2 x 24 oz bottles) to make it from one stop to the next where I can refill. Those stops can often be 2-3 hours apart. On race day, there will be aid stations every 10 miles - so you'll be able to consume huge quantities of carbohydrates and fuel during the event, which will make a big difference. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() SEADOCHA - 2012-05-14 7:28 PM On another note, what are you guys eating that fills you up and is not junk food??? I can't get full around here!!! eat, eat and eat... I must go now because I need to fill my stomach again Since nobody else has mentioned it yet, FAT!! Seriously, fat keeps me satiated longer than carbohydrates do. I eat a fair amount of carbs and protein as well, but if I'm hungry I eat fat. My preferred fuel before all long rides...bacon and eggs with some fruit. Eggs are required to be cooked in the bacon grease Good luck at TTT! |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() SEADOCHA - 2012-05-14 8:28 PM On another note, what are you guys eating that fills you up and is not junk food??? I can't get full around here!!! eat, eat and eat... I must go now because I need to fill my stomach again
As a poor college graduate, I have found that the Hamburger Helper meals are amazingly cheap as well as filling. I make it on monday and eat it monday and tuesday nights for dinner and seem to be full after each time. I also tend to snack a lot on things like trail mix which helps. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 03djmorris - 2012-05-15 11:57 AM Since nobody else has mentioned it yet, FAT!! Seriously, fat keeps me satiated longer than carbohydrates do. I eat a fair amount of carbs and protein as well, but if I'm hungry I eat fat. My preferred fuel before all long rides...bacon and eggs with some fruit. Eggs are required to be cooked in the bacon grease Good luck at TTT! Glad I'm not the only one! I love a sausage, egg, and cheese on a bagel a couple/few hours before a race. I figure it's loaded with sodium from the sausage, eggs have a boatload of nutrition in them, they both have some protein, and the bagel has crazy amounts of carbs. The fat just rounds things out a bit. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I eat a egg and sauage sandwhich every Sunday morning after my long run to help me not be hungry in Church!!! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Feeling good this morning everyone! Had a solid (for me) 3000 yards in the pool this morning. Brightens your day knowing that you had a good workout first thing in the AM and you still have one tonight! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cornick - 2012-05-16 8:11 AM Feeling good this morning everyone! Had a solid (for me) 3000 yards in the pool this morning. Brightens your day knowing that you had a good workout first thing in the AM and you still have one tonight!
Great job, I know that it feels good to get in a good work out. It's a good confidence builder.
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Great swim!!! Cornick!! I had to squeeze in a run last night before I headed out to a lacrosse game but I did my Z2 run right at the top of my Z@ and avg 7:11's for 7 miles I was happlily delighted!! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() triguy1043 - 2012-05-16 8:42 AM Great swim!!! Cornick!! I had to squeeze in a run last night before I headed out to a lacrosse game but I did my Z2 run right at the top of my Z@ and avg 7:11's for 7 miles I was happlily delighted!! Z2 at 7:11?! You make me sick. My zone t2 is like 9:xx. But either way I'm jealous and that's awesome lol! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() triguy1043 - 2012-05-16 8:42 AM Great swim!!! Cornick!! I had to squeeze in a run last night before I headed out to a lacrosse game but I did my Z2 run right at the top of my Z@ and avg 7:11's for 7 miles I was happlily delighted!! I think you mistyped... you meant Z4 or 9:11 at Z2.... right?!?!? hahaha that is awesome! I had an asthma attack just reading that... |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Raced the Half at Kinetic as my lead up to IMLP and things didn't go well on the nutrition front. Had bad stomach cramps and walked the first half of the run. It felt like someone stabbed me in the center of my gut right below the rib cage. Walking would make the pain manageable, but as soon as I started running it would hurt so bad that I would try to force my self to puke because I thought it might help. About halfway i was able to start a slow trot, then around mile 8 I had some gas, and after that I was running the sub 8 pace that i was hoping for all day. Never have this issue during training, but it has happened in both races this season (one Oly, and one Half). Maybe I just overcooked the bike both times. I hit my power numbers perfectly in both races but maybe they were set too high. I was able to run through the pain in the Oly and was not far from my goal run pace. It was much worse last weekend at the half. For the record I did the Oly at 88% of FTP, and the half at 84%. 90% and 85% was the goal. I am planning between 70 and 75% for IMLP. For the Olympic i had one bottle of Gatorade and a Cliff Gel which is a normal training regiment. For the half i had two bottles of water, two Cliff Gels and a pack of Shot Bloks. Again nothing I have not tried in training. Both times I had toast with PB and Nutella, a banana and some coffee for breakfast and I sipped some Gatorade before the race. My wife is convinced it the PB and Nutella, although that is my go to breakfast for most long training rides/runs as well as basically every running race i have done. I am open to any suggestions for things to try out before IMLP. I was thinking about testing a liquid only nutrition approach. Ensure for breakfast and sport drink supplemented with CarboPro for the bike. Anyone successfully use an all liquid diet for an Ironman? Other thoughts/suggestions? |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I have been using Gu roctane drink during my rides and love it. It doesn't have a thick taste and goes down smooth. I like the fruit punch! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() MattAune - 2012-05-16 9:52 AM Raced the Half at Kinetic as my lead up to IMLP and things didn't go well on the nutrition front. Had bad stomach cramps and walked the first half of the run. It felt like someone stabbed me in the center of my gut right below the rib cage. Walking would make the pain manageable, but as soon as I started running it would hurt so bad that I would try to force my self to puke because I thought it might help. About halfway i was able to start a slow trot, then around mile 8 I had some gas, and after that I was running the sub 8 pace that i was hoping for all day. Never have this issue during training, but it has happened in both races this season (one Oly, and one Half). Maybe I just overcooked the bike both times. I hit my power numbers perfectly in both races but maybe they were set too high. I was able to run through the pain in the Oly and was not far from my goal run pace. It was much worse last weekend at the half. For the record I did the Oly at 88% of FTP, and the half at 84%. 90% and 85% was the goal. I am planning between 70 and 75% for IMLP. For the Olympic i had one bottle of Gatorade and a Cliff Gel which is a normal training regiment. For the half i had two bottles of water, two Cliff Gels and a pack of Shot Bloks. Again nothing I have not tried in training. Both times I had toast with PB and Nutella, a banana and some coffee for breakfast and I sipped some Gatorade before the race. My wife is convinced it the PB and Nutella, although that is my go to breakfast for most long training rides/runs as well as basically every running race i have done. I am open to any suggestions for things to try out before IMLP. I was thinking about testing a liquid only nutrition approach. Ensure for breakfast and sport drink supplemented with CarboPro for the bike. Anyone successfully use an all liquid diet for an Ironman? Other thoughts/suggestions?
That's tough, though the good news is you are finding out now and not during LP. I wish I had an answer for you but I'm still experimenting with nutrition myself. I don't seem to take in enough calories. So now I'm just trying to focus on making sure I get in all the calories I can. I would say since you are training with the nutrition ok, but during the races it's not working for you. I would agree with you maybe you are pushing too hard on the bike which is causing digestion to stop. Since you have the FTP numbers I would try to duplicate it again on your long bike days (do a run afterwards) and see what you get. Sorry I couldn't be any more helpful. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() triguy1043 - 2012-05-16 8:42 AM Great swim!!! Cornick!! I had to squeeze in a run last night before I headed out to a lacrosse game but I did my Z2 run right at the top of my Z@ and avg 7:11's for 7 miles I was happlily delighted!!
With those times I'm supprised I didn't see you at the Rochester Du, you probably lapped me and didn't even know it. When are you moving onto the next age group? I need to know when I can expect to move up closer to the podium. That is some nice times though. Do you have a running background? I would love to run in the 7's, even for a 5k. Congrats on the great workout. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JMoney - 2012-05-16 9:20 AM triguy1043 - 2012-05-16 8:42 AM Great swim!!! Cornick!! I had to squeeze in a run last night before I headed out to a lacrosse game but I did my Z2 run right at the top of my Z@ and avg 7:11's for 7 miles I was happlily delighted!!
With those times I'm supprised I didn't see you at the Rochester Du, you probably lapped me and didn't even know it. When are you moving onto the next age group? I need to know when I can expect to move up closer to the podium. That is some nice times though. Do you have a running background? I would love to run in the 7's, even for a 5k. Congrats on the great workout. I did not do the Rochester Du!! I ran cross country in High school but was only an average runner. I actually consider my bike my strenght (or at least i enjoy it the most) but my running has come a long way in the last year in a 1/2 ( My avg HR for the 7:11 avg was 151) I just finall broke 1:45 in a 1/2 Mary this fall now I am running 1:45 for 13 miles in training HR training for my run has paid off tremedously!! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() MattAune - 2012-05-16 9:52 AM Raced the Half at Kinetic as my lead up to IMLP and things didn't go well on the nutrition front. Had bad stomach cramps and walked the first half of the run. It felt like someone stabbed me in the center of my gut right below the rib cage. Walking would make the pain manageable, but as soon as I started running it would hurt so bad that I would try to force my self to puke because I thought it might help. About halfway i was able to start a slow trot, then around mile 8 I had some gas, and after that I was running the sub 8 pace that i was hoping for all day. Never have this issue during training, but it has happened in both races this season (one Oly, and one Half). Maybe I just overcooked the bike both times. I hit my power numbers perfectly in both races but maybe they were set too high. I was able to run through the pain in the Oly and was not far from my goal run pace. It was much worse last weekend at the half. For the record I did the Oly at 88% of FTP, and the half at 84%. 90% and 85% was the goal. I am planning between 70 and 75% for IMLP. For the Olympic i had one bottle of Gatorade and a Cliff Gel which is a normal training regiment. For the half i had two bottles of water, two Cliff Gels and a pack of Shot Bloks. Again nothing I have not tried in training. Both times I had toast with PB and Nutella, a banana and some coffee for breakfast and I sipped some Gatorade before the race. My wife is convinced it the PB and Nutella, although that is my go to breakfast for most long training rides/runs as well as basically every running race i have done. I am open to any suggestions for things to try out before IMLP. I was thinking about testing a liquid only nutrition approach. Ensure for breakfast and sport drink supplemented with CarboPro for the bike. Anyone successfully use an all liquid diet for an Ironman? Other thoughts/suggestions?
I've had similar experiences and agree that, for me, what worked in training didn't necessarily work during races b/c of intensity. Preparing for LP, I've gone to a feed bottle approach and have been happy so far, seems to be much easier on the digestion. I'm still fine tuning but use a mix of Hammer Gel for flavor and unflavored Hammer Heed. Also, I got this advice before IM Louisville and it was a God send for me...I had antacids and gas-x in my transition bags and special needs bag. They were a tremendous help to me on the run. I'll have both readily available at all times in LP just in case. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() triguy1043 - 2012-05-16 11:48 AM JMoney - 2012-05-16 9:20 AM triguy1043 - 2012-05-16 8:42 AM Great swim!!! Cornick!! I had to squeeze in a run last night before I headed out to a lacrosse game but I did my Z2 run right at the top of my Z@ and avg 7:11's for 7 miles I was happlily delighted!!
With those times I'm supprised I didn't see you at the Rochester Du, you probably lapped me and didn't even know it. When are you moving onto the next age group? I need to know when I can expect to move up closer to the podium. That is some nice times though. Do you have a running background? I would love to run in the 7's, even for a 5k. Congrats on the great workout. I did not do the Rochester Du!! I ran cross country in High school but was only an average runner. I actually consider my bike my strenght (or at least i enjoy it the most) but my running has come a long way in the last year in a 1/2 ( My avg HR for the 7:11 avg was 151) I just finall broke 1:45 in a 1/2 Mary this fall now I am running 1:45 for 13 miles in training HR training for my run has paid off tremedously!!
sorry looked to quickly at your avatar (it's similiar to swi24's) I guess I'm going to have to switch over to HR at some point. I'm not sure if I will do it now since I'm in the middle of things but I may find my zones and see where I'm at today. I've been going by RPE up until this point. My times are improving so I can't complain. It's just cool to see other people with good run paces in there zone. |
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