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No race report to report.  I didn't run.     I introduced Sarah to sailing this weekend and she took to it like a duck to water.  She wanted to go again today and the forecast was for wind.    I will only have Sarah with me for a year, two at most.     It was a no-brainer.  Will continue to train but but will not race any until October.  Time with my niece will supersede racing.  There will always be races to do in the future.  My quality time with my niece is most likely finite.    

Just sayin'.    Cool

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Originally posted by jogo

I have a little rant, mostly about myself. I am mad at me.


I am trying, honest I am, really trying to turn this whole trainer thing into a positive.  I still feel humiliated and like it was my fault.  I keep telling myself that I am the customer and part of me wants to be really mad.  I have looked back at all of the things that he did not do for me. He would only correct my form if I would ask.  He would only give me heavier weights if I asked.  He never talked to me about my goals of training.  He would talk to me about what his plan was for the day, if I asked,  but never a goal, never a focus, never a measure of progress.  There were so many things that I should have demanded.  I liked him as a person.  I had fun and never felt like I had to push myself or work hard around him.  Now I am kicking myself for wasting all that money. 

I should've had a clear goal for myself.  I should've demanded that he push me.  There are so many should have's.  What I shouldn't have done is been a friend to this a$$hole.  I shouldn't have listened to his stories about his boyfriend, or his kitchen remodel, or his reasons for dropping out of his triathlon training group (he was mad at another trainer).  I should've seen what kind of person he was.  I should've demanded a trainer that could be professional.   This has been such a learning lesson but I am more mad at myself than I am at him.  I should've thought more about myself and my goals.   I have to learn how to be selfish about my goals.  I never think I am good enough and by not working hard, I can keep coming up with an excuse as to why I don't progress.  This trainer was a total enabler and fed my low self esteem.  He enabled me to pretend I was working without really working.  I am totally mad at myself. 

No MORE!!  I am worth more.   I am worth hard work and someone who supports that, starting with myself.  Every day I am going to tell my self that I am worth this run, this bike, this swim.  I deserve it.  I deserve to give myself the gift of a goal and work towards it.  I am worthy of a goal. I am worthy of giving 100% to myself. 

I am going to start setting weekly goals in my log.  I will accomplish these goals.  I will measure progress.  I will demand more of me.  

I have let this get in my head all weekend.  Enough is enough.  Time to move on, learn and grow.   

Thank you for listening.  Head is clearer.  So happy I have a pod to help me process through this.  {{{MELONPRESSES}}}, and they are big melons, to everyone!!!   Thank you all!!!   I am making a promise to myself and you all to set goals and put the work in.  Enough whining.  Relentless forward progress!

Excellent, Jo! I need to hear all of this, too. Not just about training, but about life. Good for you!! And thank you for sharing it.

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Originally posted by Richardsdrr Stick me on the DL, I can't walk

Is this your way of getting out of jogo'ing today?  What happened?



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Originally posted by Richardsdrr Stick me on the DL, I can't walk

Nooooooo!!!!

2013-05-27 7:16 PM
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Originally posted by jogo

I have a little rant, mostly about myself. I am mad at me.


I am trying, honest I am, really trying to turn this whole trainer thing into a positive.  I still feel humiliated and like it was my fault.  I keep telling myself that I am the customer and part of me wants to be really mad.  I have looked back at all of the things that he did not do for me. He would only correct my form if I would ask.  He would only give me heavier weights if I asked.  He never talked to me about my goals of training.  He would talk to me about what his plan was for the day, if I asked,  but never a goal, never a focus, never a measure of progress.  There were so many things that I should have demanded.  I liked him as a person.  I had fun and never felt like I had to push myself or work hard around him.  Now I am kicking myself for wasting all that money. 

I should've had a clear goal for myself.  I should've demanded that he push me.  There are so many should have's.  What I shouldn't have done is been a friend to this a$$hole.  I shouldn't have listened to his stories about his boyfriend, or his kitchen remodel, or his reasons for dropping out of his triathlon training group (he was mad at another trainer).  I should've seen what kind of person he was.  I should've demanded a trainer that could be professional.   This has been such a learning lesson but I am more mad at myself than I am at him.  I should've thought more about myself and my goals.   I have to learn how to be selfish about my goals.  I never think I am good enough and by not working hard, I can keep coming up with an excuse as to why I don't progress.  This trainer was a total enabler and fed my low self esteem.  He enabled me to pretend I was working without really working.  I am totally mad at myself. 

No MORE!!  I am worth more.   I am worth hard work and someone who supports that, starting with myself.  Every day I am going to tell my self that I am worth this run, this bike, this swim.  I deserve it.  I deserve to give myself the gift of a goal and work towards it.  I am worthy of a goal. I am worthy of giving 100% to myself. 

I am going to start setting weekly goals in my log.  I will accomplish these goals.  I will measure progress.  I will demand more of me.  

I have let this get in my head all weekend.  Enough is enough.  Time to move on, learn and grow.   

Thank you for listening.  Head is clearer.  So happy I have a pod to help me process through this.  {{{MELONPRESSES}}}, and they are big melons, to everyone!!!   Thank you all!!!   I am making a promise to myself and you all to set goals and put the work in.  Enough whining.  Relentless forward progress!

I am this person!  If a relationship - professional or personal fails for whatever reason, I will feel like this.  It's tough to deal with I know and I empathise.

Talking it through with yourself each day helps, logically you know it's not you.

Think of the positives you did get out of the relationship and the training.  I'm sure it wasn't wasted at all.

Us Manatees are certainly here for you albeit virtually.

Keep your chin up, self esteem is a tricky thing to manage - we all have those days where we don't feel worth much.  I go through that at least daily!

Anyway - you are not in the wrong, but you're right to analyse and work through what happened because if there are things you wish you'd done differently it's good to identify them and not make the same 'mistakes' again.

my 0.02

Oh, yeah. One example: My dissertation director was late getting feedback to me on something I'd written. I was so upset. I took it personally. We didn't have a completely appropriate relationship (ahem), so I fell apart in his office, berating myself and how he didn't really care about me after all, blah, blah, blah. And he looked at me and said, "Did it ever occur to you that I was just being incompetent." OMG It was like he slapped me. I just sat there stunned and said, "No. That would never occur to me." It was a revelation. It had never occurred to me, in my whole life, that when someone didn't fulfill a promise or obligation that the problem wasn't somehow my fault. I don't know where we pick that up, but it is really hard to get rid of it, that way of thinking, that is.



2013-05-27 7:18 PM
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Originally posted by TriAya Oh dear. I meant to save the last of the take-home cake for Mutti, but it was so cold and lonely and afraid, so I had to nestle it in the comfort of my warm belly.

As a mother, I'm sure I can speak for Mutti and say she would have wanted you to have it anyway. Kiss

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No race report to report.  I didn't run.     I introduced Sarah to sailing this weekend and she took to it like a duck to water.  She wanted to go again today and the forecast was for wind.    I will only have Sarah with me for a year, two at most.     It was a no-brainer.  Will continue to train but but will not race any until October.  Time with my niece will supersede racing.  There will always be races to do in the future.  My quality time with my niece is most likely finite.    

Just sayin'.    Cool

You melted a little piece of my heart.Embarassed

2013-05-27 7:35 PM
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Originally posted by jobaxas
Originally posted by jogo

I have a little rant, mostly about myself. I am mad at me.


I am trying, honest I am, really trying to turn this whole trainer thing into a positive.  I still feel humiliated and like it was my fault.  I keep telling myself that I am the customer and part of me wants to be really mad.  I have looked back at all of the things that he did not do for me. He would only correct my form if I would ask.  He would only give me heavier weights if I asked.  He never talked to me about my goals of training.  He would talk to me about what his plan was for the day, if I asked,  but never a goal, never a focus, never a measure of progress.  There were so many things that I should have demanded.  I liked him as a person.  I had fun and never felt like I had to push myself or work hard around him.  Now I am kicking myself for wasting all that money. 

I should've had a clear goal for myself.  I should've demanded that he push me.  There are so many should have's.  What I shouldn't have done is been a friend to this a$$hole.  I shouldn't have listened to his stories about his boyfriend, or his kitchen remodel, or his reasons for dropping out of his triathlon training group (he was mad at another trainer).  I should've seen what kind of person he was.  I should've demanded a trainer that could be professional.   This has been such a learning lesson but I am more mad at myself than I am at him.  I should've thought more about myself and my goals.   I have to learn how to be selfish about my goals.  I never think I am good enough and by not working hard, I can keep coming up with an excuse as to why I don't progress.  This trainer was a total enabler and fed my low self esteem.  He enabled me to pretend I was working without really working.  I am totally mad at myself. 

No MORE!!  I am worth more.   I am worth hard work and someone who supports that, starting with myself.  Every day I am going to tell my self that I am worth this run, this bike, this swim.  I deserve it.  I deserve to give myself the gift of a goal and work towards it.  I am worthy of a goal. I am worthy of giving 100% to myself. 

I am going to start setting weekly goals in my log.  I will accomplish these goals.  I will measure progress.  I will demand more of me.  

I have let this get in my head all weekend.  Enough is enough.  Time to move on, learn and grow.   

Thank you for listening.  Head is clearer.  So happy I have a pod to help me process through this.  {{{MELONPRESSES}}}, and they are big melons, to everyone!!!   Thank you all!!!   I am making a promise to myself and you all to set goals and put the work in.  Enough whining.  Relentless forward progress!

I am this person!  If a relationship - professional or personal fails for whatever reason, I will feel like this.  It's tough to deal with I know and I empathise.

Talking it through with yourself each day helps, logically you know it's not you.

Think of the positives you did get out of the relationship and the training.  I'm sure it wasn't wasted at all.

Us Manatees are certainly here for you albeit virtually.

Keep your chin up, self esteem is a tricky thing to manage - we all have those days where we don't feel worth much.  I go through that at least daily!

Anyway - you are not in the wrong, but you're right to analyse and work through what happened because if there are things you wish you'd done differently it's good to identify them and not make the same 'mistakes' again.

my 0.02

Oh, yeah. One example: My dissertation director was late getting feedback to me on something I'd written. I was so upset. I took it personally. We didn't have a completely appropriate relationship (ahem), so I fell apart in his office, berating myself and how he didn't really care about me after all, blah, blah, blah. And he looked at me and said, "Did it ever occur to you that I was just being incompetent." OMG It was like he slapped me. I just sat there stunned and said, "No. That would never occur to me." It was a revelation. It had never occurred to me, in my whole life, that when someone didn't fulfill a promise or obligation that the problem wasn't somehow my fault. I don't know where we pick that up, but it is really hard to get rid of it, that way of thinking, that is.

Must be my Catholic guilt.  It is ALWAYS my fault.  I can't believe that it would be any one else's ever.  Must reset thinking!! I am worthy.  I am good.  It is not always my fault.  I am not the only imperfect person in this world. Other people have flaws too.  Such a day of revelations!!!  I feel so philosophic-like, so enlightened, like the Dali Lama or Obiwan*.

*stated with great respect for both



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Such a great day! My son turned six and we let him choose what to do....sooooo, we rented a pontoon boat for a couple of hours and played at the water park. Ended with him choosing "sushi" for bday dinner...cucumber rolls. LOL

I'm still getting to my jogo...eeeek! Jogo done. Rode bikes around the neighborhood with my boy...him on his new 20" "trick" bike. Holy moly!

 

 

 



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Oh, that totally looks like a blast.  I wish someone would rent a pontoon boat for MY birthday!


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Originally posted by Richardsdrr Stick me on the DL, I can't walk

Oh no! What happened?

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Originally posted by ponderingfox Does anyone know how to seamlessly stitch training plans together that are automatically generated?

I don't sew...anything. Tongue out

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Originally posted by rrrunner Jogo done and an awesome 10k with DS1. He's tired but proud. I'm proud of him too. Talked to the ironman boulder RD. it's a HIM that I'd like to do and I'd heard they were trying to get a full. The RD said there will be an announcement in the next 3 week about the full and the HIM isn't going anywhere :-)

Very cool!

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...and the plot thickens.Just opening mail from Saturday and my trainer sent me a personal check for the amount of my 3 remaining sessions, post-marked Friday. No note, no explanation of what the $$$ is even for. WTF am I supposed to do with that? My contract is with Lifetime Fitness and the money was paid to Lifetime where he is an employee. This guy is eff'ing with my head. Why couldn't he just talk with me and tell me that he didn't feel like he was the right trainer for me? Why would he keep me as a client for 3 months? Now I really feel like he thinks I am a hopeless loser that no trainer could ever work with. I guess he couldn't subject any of his colleagues to me either. So much for positive thinking.
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  • ..and the plot thickens.Just opening mail from Saturday and my trainer sent me a personal check for the amount of my 3 remaining sessions, post-marked Friday. No note, no explanation of what the $$$ is even for. WTF am I supposed to do with that? My contract is with Lifetime Fitness and the money was paid to Lifetime where he is an employee. This guy is eff'ing with my head. Why couldn't he just talk with me and tell me that he didn't feel like he was the right trainer for me? Why would he keep me as a client for 3 months? Now I really feel like he thinks I am a hopeless loser that no trainer could ever work with. I guess he couldn't subject any of his colleagues to me either. So much for positive thinking.


  • You've got it all wrong! He's an idiot and he's probably trying to save his job by sending you money on the sly. The issue is all his. Always was. He sounds like a hack of a trainer and his job is probably on the line.

    You have your goals and the heart to meet them. His loss!


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    Such a great day! My son turned six and we let him choose what to do....sooooo, we rented a pontoon boat for a couple of hours and played at the water park. Ended with him choosing "sushi" for bday dinner...cucumber rolls. LOL

    I'm still getting to my jogo...eeeek!

     

     

     

    Darling! What a fun day. Happy birthday to your wee one.

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    Originally posted by ponderingfox Does anyone know how to seamlessly stitch training plans together that are automatically generated?

    I don't sew...anything. Tongue out

    That's so funny, because when I first read it, that's what I thought too. I can't get that original image out of my head, that he is asking how to literally stitch two things together.

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    Originally posted by rrrunner
    Originally posted by jogo ...and the plot thickens.Just opening mail from Saturday and my trainer sent me a personal check for the amount of my 3 remaining sessions, post-marked Friday. No note, no explanation of what the $$$ is even for. WTF am I supposed to do with that? My contract is with Lifetime Fitness and the money was paid to Lifetime where he is an employee. This guy is eff'ing with my head. Why couldn't he just talk with me and tell me that he didn't feel like he was the right trainer for me? Why would he keep me as a client for 3 months? Now I really feel like he thinks I am a hopeless loser that no trainer could ever work with. I guess he couldn't subject any of his colleagues to me either. So much for positive thinking.
    You've got it all wrong! He's an idiot and he's probably trying to save his job by sending you money on the sly. The issue is all his. Always was. He sounds like a hack of a trainer and his job is probably on the line. You have your goals and the heart to meet them. His loss!

    I agree with TJ. He is paying you off, trying to buy your silence. He really is a sleaze.

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    Originally posted by ponderingfox Does anyone know how to seamlessly stitch training plans together that are automatically generated?

    I don't sew...anything. Tongue out

    I don't press clothes and I don't sew.  I just don't.

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    Originally posted by jogo ...and the plot thickens.Just opening mail from Saturday and my trainer sent me a personal check for the amount of my 3 remaining sessions, post-marked Friday. No note, no explanation of what the $$$ is even for. WTF am I supposed to do with that? My contract is with Lifetime Fitness and the money was paid to Lifetime where he is an employee. This guy is eff'ing with my head. Why couldn't he just talk with me and tell me that he didn't feel like he was the right trainer for me? Why would he keep me as a client for 3 months? Now I really feel like he thinks I am a hopeless loser that no trainer could ever work with. I guess he couldn't subject any of his colleagues to me either. So much for positive thinking.

    Don't make me swear at you.

    Tell him to Fork Off.  So he's taken the money for your PT from the gym.  He thinks you will walk away no questions asked if he pays you back.

    Time to speak to management.  This is totally unprofessional.

    He doesn't think you're a loser, but he does think you're a pushover who won't take action.  Time to prove him wrong.



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    Originally posted by jogo

    I have a little rant, mostly about myself. I am mad at me.


    I am trying, honest I am, really trying to turn this whole trainer thing into a positive.  I still feel humiliated and like it was my fault.  I keep telling myself that I am the customer and part of me wants to be really mad.  I have looked back at all of the things that he did not do for me. He would only correct my form if I would ask.  He would only give me heavier weights if I asked.  He never talked to me about my goals of training.  He would talk to me about what his plan was for the day, if I asked,  but never a goal, never a focus, never a measure of progress.  There were so many things that I should have demanded.  I liked him as a person.  I had fun and never felt like I had to push myself or work hard around him.  Now I am kicking myself for wasting all that money. 

    I should've had a clear goal for myself.  I should've demanded that he push me.  There are so many should have's.  What I shouldn't have done is been a friend to this a$$hole.  I shouldn't have listened to his stories about his boyfriend, or his kitchen remodel, or his reasons for dropping out of his triathlon training group (he was mad at another trainer).  I should've seen what kind of person he was.  I should've demanded a trainer that could be professional.   This has been such a learning lesson but I am more mad at myself than I am at him.  I should've thought more about myself and my goals.   I have to learn how to be selfish about my goals.  I never think I am good enough and by not working hard, I can keep coming up with an excuse as to why I don't progress.  This trainer was a total enabler and fed my low self esteem.  He enabled me to pretend I was working without really working.  I am totally mad at myself. 

    No MORE!!  I am worth more.   I am worth hard work and someone who supports that, starting with myself.  Every day I am going to tell my self that I am worth this run, this bike, this swim.  I deserve it.  I deserve to give myself the gift of a goal and work towards it.  I am worthy of a goal. I am worthy of giving 100% to myself. 

    I am going to start setting weekly goals in my log.  I will accomplish these goals.  I will measure progress.  I will demand more of me.  

    I have let this get in my head all weekend.  Enough is enough.  Time to move on, learn and grow.   

    Thank you for listening.  Head is clearer.  So happy I have a pod to help me process through this.  {{{MELONPRESSES}}}, and they are big melons, to everyone!!!   Thank you all!!!   I am making a promise to myself and you all to set goals and put the work in Enough whining.  Relentless forward progress!

    I read this earlier today, but didn't have time to reply in a Yoda-esque manner as I was unloading children.  And now....Everyone else took the super thoughtful and inspiring replies.Wink 

    I think that ^^^ is a great place to start! It really is the only place change CAN start. You can DOOOOOOOO EEEEEEEET!!!!

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    Originally posted by ponderingfox Oh, that totally looks like a blast.  I wish someone would rent a pontoon boat for MY birthday!

    We had such a fun day. Perfect weather...90s with a breeze. I think it might be on account of their parents' morbid sense of humor that both my kids found the dead fish most intriguing and funny Surprised

    Hmmmm....should I look at that Manatee bday list Janyne has stashed somewhere?

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    Originally posted by ponderingfox Oh, that totally looks like a blast.  I wish someone would rent a pontoon boat for MY birthday!

    We had such a fun day. Perfect weather...90s with a breeze. I think it might be on account of their parents' morbid sense of humor that both my kids found the dead fish most intriguing and funny Surprised

    Hmmmm....should I look at that Manatee bday list Janyne has stashed somewhere?

    This isn't normal for kids?

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    Originally posted by jogo

    Originally posted by Richardsdrr Stick me on the DL, I can't walk

    Is this your way of getting out of jogo'ing today?  What happened?




    Nope, still got JOGO on yesterday. 6 of 6. Don't know what to do today, possibly strength exercises.

    I've had quite a fall down some stairs in the house. Doing the old browsing iPad whilst walking is not a clever thing to do. I ended up sliding from the top to the bottom and wedged my foot between the bars of a baby safety gate that was positioned at the bottom of the stairs. It wasn't too bad at first, and I could walk quite easily. I even managed to get 40 min's on the turbo for my JOGO. Since sleeping, a nice red mark with some bruising has appeared on the Cuneiform bone, possibly the top end of the metatarsal of the big toe, and its painful to touch. I'm really struggling to get around without the aid of a stick at the moment. I have a feeling my race planned for Thursday night might have to be just the swim section.
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