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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Corncub - 2011-06-12 6:59 PM Hi guys, I did it, I got my arse out of bed at 6am and did a tri. What I really love about doing tris is they are over by 10:30 am (the ones I do) and you get to saunter around the rest of the day knowing you did a TRIATHLON!!! Its fun... that alone makes it worth it. The race was hard, the hills were uh...extremely HILLY. The chain on my bike fell off THREE TIMES! twice while going up hill which is very awkward for starting up again... but it was good, a very challenging course all around. I want to tell you my times but I didnt wear a watch and they haven't posted the results yet. I didn't train hard for this race, my next race is in August and I want to KILL that race, its a big one and I will start making a much more concentrated effort with my training starting this week. Way to go! I hate hilly hills - especially when I have no chain on my bike! Good luck with your upcoming training.
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Corncub - 2011-06-12 6:59 PM Hi guys, I did it, I got my arse out of bed at 6am and did a tri. What I really love about doing tris is they are over by 10:30 am (the ones I do) and you get to saunter around the rest of the day knowing you did a TRIATHLON!!! Its fun... that alone makes it worth it. The race was hard, the hills were uh...extremely HILLY. The chain on my bike fell off THREE TIMES! twice while going up hill which is very awkward for starting up again... but it was good, a very challenging course all around. I want to tell you my times but I didnt wear a watch and they haven't posted the results yet. I didn't train hard for this race, my next race is in August and I want to KILL that race, its a big one and I will start making a much more concentrated effort with my training starting this week.
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Off to Chicago tomorrow and Monday with Southwestern Michigan in-between. Am going to use the soft sandy roads near the lake to run. It will be nice have cool mornings. Wish the lake water was warm though! 60ish degress = no swimming! I would take my wetsuit but it's just TOO big to pack. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stephsprint - 2011-06-14 10:56 AM Off to Chicago tomorrow and Monday with Southwestern Michigan in-between. Am going to use the soft sandy roads near the lake to run. It will be nice have cool mornings. Wish the lake water was warm though! 60ish degress = no swimming! I would take my wetsuit but it's just TOO big to pack. Fun! We've gone up to SW Michigan to volunteer at Steelhead the last few years. A bit early to pick blueberries, but there are some nice vinyards and a favorite burger place in New Buffalo. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() McFuzz - 2011-06-14 1:50 PM stephsprint - 2011-06-14 10:56 AM Off to Chicago tomorrow and Monday with Southwestern Michigan in-between. Am going to use the soft sandy roads near the lake to run. It will be nice have cool mornings. Wish the lake water was warm though! 60ish degress = no swimming! I would take my wetsuit but it's just TOO big to pack. Fun! We've gone up to SW Michigan to volunteer at Steelhead the last few years. A bit early to pick blueberries, but there are some nice vinyards and a favorite burger place in New Buffalo. Exactly! I'll be in Harbert, but we're taking the dog to the vet in New Buffalo tomorrow... I'll ask about the burgers for lunch! There's also Dreyers in Three Oaks, gotta get me some home made liverwurst. mmmmmmm. I love a small town butcher shop like the one my family had for years. |
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IM training is getting serious less than 3 months out. Lots of hours, speed work. All good. Eating more and losing weight, mostly trimming down a bit. Stronger. Focusing on eating before, during and after longer workouts. Getting better workouts as a result. Tired, trying to sleep more. All good. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() IceManScott - 2011-06-16 6:37 AM
IM training is getting serious less than 3 months out. Lots of hours, speed work. All good. Eating more and losing weight, mostly trimming down a bit. Stronger. Focusing on eating before, during and after longer workouts. Getting better workouts as a result. Tired, trying to sleep more. All good. ICE, I can relate to that! 7 weeks till IM and my volume is higher than I've ever done. Feeling good though.
On another note, I did my first Olympic distance race this morning. I totally bonked. I didn't take in enough calories in the bike and in the middle of the run segment, my body pretty much quit. I finished, but it wasn't pretty. Oh well. I was a little bummed out that I didn't do better... and I had such a good swim/bike today! Oh well....chalk it up to a learning experience. See ya! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ecpasos - 2011-06-18 5:02 PM IceManScott - 2011-06-16 6:37 AM
IM training is getting serious less than 3 months out. Lots of hours, speed work. All good. Eating more and losing weight, mostly trimming down a bit. Stronger. Focusing on eating before, during and after longer workouts. Getting better workouts as a result. Tired, trying to sleep more. All good. ICE, I can relate to that! 7 weeks till IM and my volume is higher than I've ever done. Feeling good though.
On another note, I did my first Olympic distance race this morning. I totally bonked. I didn't take in enough calories in the bike and in the middle of the run segment, my body pretty much quit. I finished, but it wasn't pretty. Oh well. I was a little bummed out that I didn't do better... and I had such a good swim/bike today! Oh well....chalk it up to a learning experience. See ya!
Congrats on your first olympic! I'm curious about your nutrition during the race and what you think you should have done differently in that regard. I have my first olympic next month and was planning on using a bit infinit on the bike, but not really taking in a lot of calories. So, help me learn from your mistake Ann-Marie |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() amd723 - 2011-06-18 3:31 PMCongrats on your first olympic! I'm curious about your nutrition during the race and what you think you should have done differently in that regard. I have my first olympic next month and was planning on using a bit infinit on the bike, but not really taking in a lot of calories. So, help me learn from your mistake :) Ann-Marie Ann-Marie, I drank about 100 calories of sports drink before the swim. I think that was fine. On the bike though, I only took in about 160 calories of sports drink. If I could rewind, I'd use something like Infinit to provide more like 355 calories. On the run, I took 1 gel as I was reaching mile 2 and I was taking in small doses of Gatorade at each of 4 stations, but I think it was too late in the game at that point. I really felt weak after the 1st mile. By mile 3, I was run/walking. I think that the missing piece was the nutrition on the bike. I went back and did a little searching here on BT for other people's opinions on the matter. Opinions differ as much as people are different and race conditions differ, but generally, it seems, nutrition should include some calorie intake before the swim, then 200 to 300 cals per hour on the bike (add'l water also depending on sweat rate & heat), then some calories on the run (1 cal per pound of body weight minimum) which for me would be between 160 and 250 calories per hour. Normally, I'd do this type of analysis before a race, but I have to admit I got lazy on this one. Oh well... lesson learned :)
Enrique Edited by ecpasos 2011-06-19 11:52 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ecpasos - 2011-06-19 11:47 PM amd723 - 2011-06-18 3:31 PMCongrats on your first olympic! I'm curious about your nutrition during the race and what you think you should have done differently in that regard. I have my first olympic next month and was planning on using a bit infinit on the bike, but not really taking in a lot of calories. So, help me learn from your mistake ![]() Ann-Marie Ann-Marie, I drank about 100 calories of sports drink before the swim. I think that was fine. On the bike though, I only took in about 160 calories of sports drink. If I could rewind, I'd use something like Infinit to provide more like 355 calories. On the run, I took 1 gel as I was reaching mile 2 and I was taking in small doses of Gatorade at each of 4 stations, but I think it was too late in the game at that point. I really felt weak after the 1st mile. By mile 3, I was run/walking. I think that the missing piece was the nutrition on the bike. I went back and did a little searching here on BT for other people's opinions on the matter. Opinions differ as much as people are different and race conditions differ, but generally, it seems, nutrition should include some calorie intake before the swim, then 200 to 300 cals per hour on the bike (add'l water also depending on sweat rate & heat), then some calories on the run (1 cal per pound of body weight minimum) which for me would be between 160 and 250 calories per hour. Normally, I'd do this type of analysis before a race, but I have to admit I got lazy on this one. Oh well... lesson learned
Enrique Enrique, Thanks for the input - that's a lot more calories then I had been planning on taking in. I guess I need to reassess! Ann-Marie |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Enrique (& Ann-Marie and everyone), It sounds like you had about 350-400 calories prior to and during the race. Did you eat breakfast or just drink a little bit of sports drink before the race? I'd say if you had something to eat 2-3 hours prior to the race, 400 calories would have been enough to get you easily to the finish line (really, calories in the last half hour don't help you finish, but may help a huge amount with recovery). 200-300 calories/hour is the guideline for most people. If you're smaller, have a nervous stomach, or are racing hard, you might target the lower end. (I think this is one of the mistakes people make in an IM, they can consume 300 cal/hr during Z1 training, but then on race day they're on the edge of Z2 and can't process as much, particularly with race-day adrenaline. ) If you're doing an OLY and mostly Z2-3, then you probably want to back off a bit as well. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey. Our group is still here? I never knew! HI!!!! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Aha moment. Mike, that is good info you posted. It made me think about what I did for breakfast. Because of the race location I had to leave very early so I didn't eat anything 2 to 3 hours before. That alone could have been why I bonked. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Triathlynne - 2011-06-21 12:14 PM Hey. Our group is still here? I never knew! HI!!!! Hi! Yep, some of us just never left. ![]() |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ecpasos - 2011-06-21 12:51 PM Aha moment. Mike, that is good info you posted. It made me think about what I did for breakfast. Because of the race location I had to leave very early so I didn't eat anything 2 to 3 hours before. That alone could have been why I bonked.
EC... breakfast is def a must before any race... For both my oly's I ate my norm- 1/4 cup oatmeal w/ a cut-up nana, and some pb. For my first oly- i had a gel before the swim w/ water, just water on the bike, and maybe two cups of infinite and a couple cups of water on the run. second oly- bkfst, water, swim, 1 gel on the bike w/ one water bottle drank, and again infinite/water on the run. I normally train w/out alot of extra "stuff".. ie I ran a 10 miler on saturday w/out taking a water break. I usually eat a little before workouts and after. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() laurak11 - 2011-06-22 10:26 AM ecpasos - 2011-06-21 12:51 PM Aha moment. Mike, that is good info you posted. It made me think about what I did for breakfast. Because of the race location I had to leave very early so I didn't eat anything 2 to 3 hours before. That alone could have been why I bonked. EC... breakfast is def a must before any race... For both my oly's I ate my norm- 1/4 cup oatmeal w/ a cut-up nana, and some pb. For my first oly- i had a gel before the swim w/ water, just water on the bike, and maybe two cups of infinite and a couple cups of water on the run. second oly- bkfst, water, swim, 1 gel on the bike w/ one water bottle drank, and again infinite/water on the run. I normally train w/out alot of extra "stuff".. ie I ran a 10 miler on saturday w/out taking a water break. I usually eat a little before workouts and after. That's what I'm missing... the Breakfast of Champions! Lesson learned |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Well, doing the Oly on Sunday. Should be interesting as I have yet to do an open water swim this season and my biking and running are not where they were at this point last year due to injury. I've never done a repeat race in which I did not do better. This race will be a day of personal growth in which I learn to deal with life's set backs ( and aging ![]() |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() suzimmer - 2011-06-24 11:47 AM Well, doing the Oly on Sunday. Should be interesting as I have yet to do an open water swim this season and my biking and running are not where they were at this point last year due to injury. I've never done a repeat race in which I did not do better. This race will be a day of personal growth in which I learn to deal with life's set backs ( and aging ![]() Everyone feels the same way, but not everyone gets out there and does it ANYWAY. I'm already proud of you. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() suzimmer - 2011-06-24 10:47 AM Well, doing the Oly on Sunday. Should be interesting as I have yet to do an open water swim this season and my biking and running are not where they were at this point last year due to injury. I've never done a repeat race in which I did not do better. This race will be a day of personal growth in which I learn to deal with life's set backs ( and aging ![]() Suzanne, Go have fun! Rock the race to the best of Sunday's ability and don't get caught up in what you could have done if.if.if.if. Injury has forced you to cut back on training. That's life. (It could have also been a family issue, changing priorities, or lots of other things.) I think there may be a bit of a life lesson in here too. (Rhetorically) How often do you (Not just Suzanne, but everyone paying attention here) celebrate or acknowlege your accomplishments? How would you treasure the race result if you knew it was the best race of your life? I'll start. While I don't talk about it much, I had an incredible race 2 years ago. Literally, the race of a lifetime. Was my 13:38 finish slower than my dream of sub-12? Sure, but that time doesn't tell the whole story. I probably had a 5% chance of finishing sub-12 that day. I'm racing Vineman in 5 weeks, and my chance for that sub-12 finish is probably 25%. I also recognize that there's a chance I DNF and that CdA could be my only Ironman finish. (I put that chance quite a bit lower.) I'll also mention that I was salavating at the prospect of crushing Steelhead in 2009 compared to my 2006 performance given all of the IM training. Didn't happen. In fact I didn't even start that race. Didn't start the race in 2010 either. So far, my 2006 HIM has been my only HIM in spite of signing up for it two more times. (My attitude about my 2006 race has improved since that race day, BTW. ) |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() McFUZZ (Rhetorically) How often do you (Not just Suzanne, but everyone paying attention here) celebrate or acknowlege your accomplishments? How would you treasure the race result if you knew it was the best race of your life? Not enough. Just 5ks so far, but I need to celebrate and acknowledge accomplishments during training also. You are so right. For me just getting out there any doing any run, swim and especially bike ride (because I'm terrified of traffic) is a win. I'm REALLY hard on myself so my goal for the last few weeks has been to try and give myself a break. I ran and swam this morning. ![]() Thanks Fuzz. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() [(Rhetorically) How often do you (Not just Suzanne, but everyone paying attention here) celebrate or acknowlege your accomplishments? How would you treasure the race result if you knew it was the best race of your life? I'll start. While I don't talk about it much, I had an incredible race 2 years ago. Literally, the race of a lifetime. Was my 13:38 finish slower than my dream of sub-12? Sure, but that time doesn't tell the whole story. I probably had a 5% chance of finishing sub-12 that day. I'm racing Vineman in 5 weeks, and my chance for that sub-12 finish is probably 25%. I also recognize that there's a chance I DNF and that CdA could be my only Ironman finish. (I put that chance quite a bit lower.) I'll also mention that I was salavating at the prospect of crushing Steelhead in 2009 compared to my 2006 performance given all of the IM training. Didn't happen. In fact I didn't even start that race. Didn't start the race in 2010 either. So far, my 2006 HIM has been my only HIM in spite of signing up for it two more times. (My attitude about my 2006 race has improved since that race day, BTW. ) This ^ is a good point. In 2009, I ran the Ft. Lauderdale marathon in 4:04; a PR. I had stomach issues on the run and was very disappointed that I did not run sub 4hrs, so I did not celebrate the accomplishment. I figured it would be easy to go sub 4 in my next marathon. I thought that would be in Nov. 2010, but sickness and injury caused me to convert the marathon into a 1/2. Not deterred, I knew I could make my time this past February back at the Ft. Lauderdale marathon. Once again, injury turned the race into a 1/2. I'm still dealing with nagging injuries and am unsure if I will run a marathon this year. So, the 4:04 may be my now and forever PR. I should have celebrated it rather than be disappointed by it. Unfortunately, I have a tendency to say "if only" after my races regardless of performance. I really need to work on that. I have my first Oly next month, so that will give me a chance to practice this new good attitude Ann-Marie |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() McFuzz - 2011-06-24 4:35 PM suzimmer - 2011-06-24 10:47 AM Well, doing the Oly on Sunday. Should be interesting as I have yet to do an open water swim this season and my biking and running are not where they were at this point last year due to injury. I've never done a repeat race in which I did not do better. This race will be a day of personal growth in which I learn to deal with life's set backs ( and aging ![]() Suzanne, Go have fun! Rock the race to the best of Sunday's ability and don't get caught up in what you could have done if.if.if.if. Injury has forced you to cut back on training. That's life. (It could have also been a family issue, changing priorities, or lots of other things.) I think there may be a bit of a life lesson in here too. (Rhetorically) How often do you (Not just Suzanne, but everyone paying attention here) celebrate or acknowlege your accomplishments? How would you treasure the race result if you knew it was the best race of your life? I'll start. While I don't talk about it much, I had an incredible race 2 years ago. Literally, the race of a lifetime. Was my 13:38 finish slower than my dream of sub-12? Sure, but that time doesn't tell the whole story. I probably had a 5% chance of finishing sub-12 that day. I'm racing Vineman in 5 weeks, and my chance for that sub-12 finish is probably 25%. I also recognize that there's a chance I DNF and that CdA could be my only Ironman finish. (I put that chance quite a bit lower.) I'll also mention that I was salavating at the prospect of crushing Steelhead in 2009 compared to my 2006 performance given all of the IM training. Didn't happen. In fact I didn't even start that race. Didn't start the race in 2010 either. So far, my 2006 HIM has been my only HIM in spite of signing up for it two more times. (My attitude about my 2006 race has improved since that race day, BTW. ) The race I'm doing on tomorrow I did two years ago and placed 3rd in my age group. When I signed up for this year (soooo long ago in December) I thought...I'm aging up. I am so gonna kill this race. Oh well. That's life and it's how you deal with life's curve balls that is the real test. (I'm getting so philosophical in my old age Did my first open water of the season today at the race venue prior to raking my bike. Felt good. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() OK, I said it on my FB page and I'll say it here. If I can handle the OWS on Wednesday, I'm signing up for my first Tri. Either the July 4th event at Tradewinds or the next Trilogy on Key Biscayne. I said it and I didn't pee my pants. Off to a great start! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stephsprint - 2011-06-26 7:56 AM OK, I said it on my FB page and I'll say it here. If I can handle the OWS on Wednesday, I'm signing up for my first Tri. Either the July 4th event at Tradewinds or the next Trilogy on Key Biscayne. I said it and I didn't pee my pants. Off to a great start! Way cool! The nice thing about the July 4th race is you only have a week or so to obsess over it! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stephsprint - 2011-06-26 7:56 AM OK, I said it on my FB page and I'll say it here. If I can handle the OWS on Wednesday, I'm signing up for my first Tri. Either the July 4th event at Tradewinds or the next Trilogy on Key Biscayne. I said it and I didn't pee my pants. Off to a great start!
I find if i actually sign up for the event and therefore have some skin in the game, I follow through with the race. BTW, I'm signed up for the Multirace Trilogy 2 international distance, so we could end up at the same race. 2 of my brothers and 1 sister are doing the sprint distance that day too! Ann-Marie |
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