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maxmansmom - 2009-03-18 1:40 PM

Hello my luvs !  Oh how I have missed you guys and gals !  I am feeling much better today, bronchitis seems to be a thing of the past but that inhaler is not far from me (yet).  Seem to be ditching the sinus infection as well THANK GOD !

Made it to the pool today, I timed myself for the June womens triathlon, took me 11 ish minutes to do 400 so i rounded to 12  LOL.  worked on as much as I could since my tri I realized I looked horrible ! A buddy of mine said she saw herself on my blog video and was like "how on earth did my arm get that high" !!!  So our Rubber ducky swim club group will meet the first time tomorrow night, and I mentioned I'd seen myself swim and saw HORRIBLE mistakes !  So we will do some video of our group and maybe we can all do better with a visual of ourselves ! LOL

I am not all caught up on the posts, but I've been through a few adn I'm off to the trainign logs.

Hugs and thanks for the ispires you have left for me !

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glad you are feeling better Julie....welcome back...we have missed our newest triathlete!



2009-03-19 1:06 PM
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maxmansmom - 2009-03-18 2:22 PM

Offthegrid - 2009-03-17 7:22 AM OK, now some good news everyone! I wanted to post last night but didn't have the chance. The swimming lessons are going REALLY well!!! The instructor (and her friend) last night pointed out that I really kick with my legs very far apart, creating drag. I tried to cut that down, and I could feel a difference right away. If I can find my therapy band, I'm going to tie my legs up to swim. Ha ha ha. She also videotaped us with her cell phone and is going to e-mail them to us. Roomie said she got hers, but not mine yet? I don't want everyone on BT seeing my huge behind, though. (Frankly, I'm glad *I* don't have to look at it. Ha ha ha!) Also this morning I had NO pain in my foot. So that's going really well as well. I really cannot stop raving about triggers points and the self-treatment of pain. This stuff is amazing.

OH MY GOD ! kicking my feet too wide apart is one of the things I was told I should work on, and I do not have small behind, so if you have not seen this yet, take a look at my blog www.jdhalter.blogspot.com and you can see the video of me and my HORRIBLE form !  I used it to work on thigns today, but it was painful to look at how badly I was swimming !!    HOWEVER I can use it now and try to fix what I know is wrong !  You are not alone on the wide kicky thing ! lol

you just wait~ keep up the swimming eventually you will be a fishy and have the best form around!!!!

2009-03-19 1:13 PM
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Offthegrid - 2009-03-18 5:20 PM I SWAM 2,000 YARDS TODAY!!! I'm so super psyched. AND, my 100-yard warmup was 10 seconds faster than my all-out 100 last week and is 30 seconds faster than my warmup last week. On my next swim, I'm anxious to time an all-out 100. Keeping my legs closer together -- along with my breathing improvement -- has really done the trick. Next up I'll have to master flip turns.

THAT IS FABULOUS SUSIE! I AM SOOO HAPPY FOR YOU!...HEY --once you master swimming you will have to give me some lessons! I just got my Terri Laughlin Swimming Made Easy book yesterday in the mail...hoping that will psyche me up for some swim enthusiasm I seem to be lacking! haha kiu! and pass some of that swim jiggy on will ya?

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I so appreciate all of you for taking time to help me along the way !  I have had so much help in learning along the way !!

You are the greatest team and I really do want you all to know how much I appreciate you sharing what you have learned with me !

Tonight is our first Rubber Ducky swim club swim.  One of the better swimmers will be there for sure, 'cause I BEGGED HIM ! lol

I also saw the gal who was in the lane next to me at the tri swim. I did not know her until then but saw her last night at the Y and literally BOWED to her !  You know the "I'm not worthy" thing.....she giggled and I hope I made her feel really good about her work and her abilities !!

The Rubber Ducky swim club....Love the name! It's perfect not only because of your little ducks but because it puts a smile on your face...kinda like you do for us!

Congrats for signing up for yet another tri! You're hooked baby! Look out!

Tee hee, I loved the name too !  You are too sweet, thanks for the compliment !  Swimming, looks like it should be easy, but my mind/body coordination is not top notch !! lol

2009-03-19 1:16 PM
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Offthegrid - 2009-03-18 1:01 PM Which brings me to my question for everyone: How do you deal with hunger after long training days? I swam 40 mins Saturday and rode almost 2 hours, and I wasn't that hungry Saturday. But then on Sunday it was like I simply could not eat enough food. (In hindsight, I *should* have tracked my calories those days to make sure I ate enough Saturday, and I'm going to get better about doing that.) Does that happen to other people, too?

i can't deal with the hunger so i EAT (i figure that it balances itself because i can't eat after a big workout...stomach does not want to) the problem is when you are forced to sit/rest...body thinks it is an off day/pig out day,so i am more carefull when that happens.wtg on the 2 pounds off!

 

I am with you Isabelle. I have to eat when I am hungry...I just try to not have unhealthy snacks in sight or in the cabinets I access often in the kitchen, and I try to keep it to small portions for dinner and for my snacks...plus LOTS AND LOTS of water! make sure you are hydrating daily.

2009-03-19 1:17 PM
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maxmansmom - 2009-03-19 9:30 AM

I so appreciate all of you for taking time to help me along the way !  I have had so much help in learning along the way !!

You are the greatest team and I really do want you all to know how much I appreciate you sharing what you have learned with me !

Tonight is our first Rubber Ducky swim club swim.  One of the better swimmers will be there for sure, 'cause I BEGGED HIM ! lol

I also saw the gal who was in the lane next to me at the tri swim. I did not know her until then but saw her last night at the Y and literally BOWED to her !  You know the "I'm not worthy" thing.....she giggled and I hope I made her feel really good about her work and her abilities !!

You are such a sweet person...I hope you feel appreciated here too!!!! Cuz I do appreciate you Can't wait to bike together...I'm going to talk you into the open water tri here...you just wait and see Amy

OPEN WATER ????!!!! ARE YOU CRAZY ?.............  (it does sound cool, fun.......like I'd be a big brave girl and all).......hmmmm perhaps you could take me to the lake and throw me in so I can see what it's like.......  can I wear a rubber ducky floatie ?

Hmmmmm might have to look into that swim safe thingy for open water

I'm so easy to tempt you know ! lol......... when is this tri ?



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amy mutz - 2009-03-19 6:29 AM Well I hope everyone is doing great here today!!!! I have offered for a few friends to join the group after asking Julie for the favor, my other group has just fallen apart and these girls have no other group to call home...they would be a great addition to our group, I hope this is ok with everyone, and I hope you enjoy there conversation and inspires as much as I have. I have asked them to come introduce themselves to you, their names are Kathryn, Karen, Cath, Helen and Lisa. Thanks again everyone for all your support and encouragement!!!!!!!! I'm feeling so good is scares me, and I'm trying to take everyones advice and take it slow...but it's so hard when this is something I love to do...I took a leave from here because it was so hard to watch everyones progress when I was just going backwards. I think this time the healthy feeling is here to stay....yay!!! Love from Indiana, Amy

Yay Amy....good to hear from you! and of course they are welcome! I hope they will come join in on the fun..I know Pam wont mind if they are on both teams...she will eventually make her way back after her life settles some! same for Emerson who co-mentors with her! they both have TONS going on now and I know they would want them to have the support here...so WELCOME Kathryn, Karen, Cath, Helen and Lisa.! dont be shy introduce yourselves and come have fun with us! We look forward to getting to know you....and know you will have lots to contribute.

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maxmansmom - 2009-03-19 7:30 AM

I so appreciate all of you for taking time to help me along the way !  I have had so much help in learning along the way !!

You are the greatest team and I really do want you all to know how much I appreciate you sharing what you have learned with me !

Tonight is our first Rubber Ducky swim club swim.  One of the better swimmers will be there for sure, 'cause I BEGGED HIM ! lol

I also saw the gal who was in the lane next to me at the tri swim. I did not know her until then but saw her last night at the Y and literally BOWED to her !  You know the "I'm not worthy" thing.....she giggled and I hope I made her feel really good about her work and her abilities !!

you are such a lovey! It is easy to want to help you Jules! you have such heart and soul! I cant wait to see you in action in your first Sprint Tri....You are going to rock it! and I think your form in the pool is awesome! how long short ago did you start swimming? you are doing great! KIU GIRL!

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amy mutz - 2009-03-19 7:29 AM Well I hope everyone is doing great here today!!!! I have offered for a few friends to join the group after asking Julie for the favor, my other group has just fallen apart and these girls have no other group to call home...they would be a great addition to our group, I hope this is ok with everyone, and I hope you enjoy there conversation and inspires as much as I have. I have asked them to come introduce themselves to you, their names are Kathryn, Karen, Cath, Helen and Lisa. Thanks again everyone for all your support and encouragement!!!!!!!! I'm feeling so good is scares me, and I'm trying to take everyones advice and take it slow...but it's so hard when this is something I love to do...I took a leave from here because it was so hard to watch everyones progress when I was just going backwards. I think this time the healthy feeling is here to stay....yay!!! Love from Indiana, Amy

Yaaaaay Amy! You're back!

I know what you mean about feeling like you're standing still while everyone moves forward. Trust me...every time I get in the pool- I feel like I am literally just floating while others are flying by. Just keep having fun- as you said you love this tri world!

Welcome Kathryn, Karen, Cath, Lisa, and Helen! You're in for lots of chatter and fun here! Yes, we do train too. AND we have a kick- butt Mentor to boot!

Ahhhh thanks Yvonne....but this truly is a rocking team and all I do is try and keep us moving forward! you guys are what makes this team sooooooooo fun and knowledgeable! I have gained much knowledge from you all...and will continue to pick your brains...thanks to you all...I think we will all have a very favorable and fun tri season! we seem to already be off to a good start!!

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Sledge - 2009-03-19 5:37 AM

Good morning everyone!  I am now convinced that the way to have a great workout is to do it under adverse conditions.  Last night I didn't get much sleep at all -- laid awake for two hours after I went to bed, then woke up about every 15 minutes after that.  Then I had to get up very early to take my dh to the airport.  I decided to try to get the track workout in that got messed up on Tuesday.  After about a half mile on the track, about 200 Army EOD trainees showed up.  I thought I was in for it!  But we played nicely and we all get our workouts in. 

I usually do intervals with Torture Dan, but today I managed it alone.  Not sure if I'll be able to do this every week, but it sure felt good today.  

wow...that sounds like a REALLY crowded track area! Good job getting in a torture session on your own! You just never cease to amaze me gal!?! kiu ...but I dont need to tell you that! haha

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which brings me to yet another question: How long (time) of a swimming workout warrants extra recovery food?

Tonight I did buy chocolate milk because I didn't want to run into Sunday's problem...


Excellent on the improvement, Susie. I can't believe how well you keep up the training with all that's going on for you. I'd find a cave and sit alone whining, if it were me!

As to recovery nutrition, there's a confusing bunch of research out there about. I've looked at some of it trying to convince my sister that it's better to do long-slow to melt fat than hard-fast. A good rule of thumb (we call those rules of dumb in laboratories, btw) is to only worry about recovery nutrition when your workouts are more than 2 hours long. Your body has plenty of reserves to get you to that point. You then have 24 hours to replenish and it's best to do that with meals rather than liquids. The old 30 minute rule was from data out of U of F (gatorade country) on sports teams (football, basketball, track, etc. - not what we do!). If you're going longer than 2 hours, you should fuel as you go, of course. And that will most likely be liquids due to exercise induced vomiting issues!

Swimming is special because it messes with your internal thermometer as well as the exercise part. Your brain thinks it needs to heat you up and the most efficient way to do that is to burn calories in the gut, so you get that hungry feeling. There are recent studies that show that people tend to overcompensate for calories when they swim, possibly because of the thermoregulatory issues, and actually gain weight. Be really careful about post-swimming intake - you probably didn't burn as many calories in that swim as your stomach is telling you. Eat fiber to satisfy the hunger rather than sugars (chocolate milk, for example). Then just follow your normal diet. Remember, if you're building your workouts, you should also increase your caloric intake to compensate so your body doesn't go into "starvation" mode.

On the other hand, some people swear by recovery nutrition, so if it makes you feel better and doesn't make you gain weight, go for it!

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Girl Passing on Left - 2009-03-19 2:31 PM
maxmansmom - 2009-03-19 7:30 AM

I so appreciate all of you for taking time to help me along the way !  I have had so much help in learning along the way !!

You are the greatest team and I really do want you all to know how much I appreciate you sharing what you have learned with me !

Tonight is our first Rubber Ducky swim club swim.  One of the better swimmers will be there for sure, 'cause I BEGGED HIM ! lol

I also saw the gal who was in the lane next to me at the tri swim. I did not know her until then but saw her last night at the Y and literally BOWED to her !  You know the "I'm not worthy" thing.....she giggled and I hope I made her feel really good about her work and her abilities !!

you are such a lovey! It is easy to want to help you Jules! you have such heart and soul! I cant wait to see you in action in your first Sprint Tri....You are going to rock it! and I think your form in the pool is awesome! how long short ago did you start swimming? you are doing great! KIU GIRL!

Aww thank you. Let me see, I think I started to learn to swim with my face in the water in October 'cause that is when I went just to learn to show DD how to put her face in the water.  I knew she would not if she never saw me do it.  HOWEVER when I was in high school i was held under the water too long and was terrified of it after that. 
One of the lifeguards invited me to do the tri that I just did and I started to learn to swim from there.  HOWEVER I see that I have taken rolling with the hips TOO literally and have been turing my entire body to turn ! WAY overcompensating.
Last time I swam i did it with trying to turn my torso and not the legs..........good grief, also tried to quicken my swim stroke.  It looked like I had nowhere to go fast in the tri ! lol

I never ran in my life (big boobs hurt even when you are young when they do the bouncy thing).  So I just got a bra made of steel and started that back in October too.  I have not been on a bike outside since dd was born (4 1/2 year ago).......can you imagine what I'll do wrong on that thing ? LOL  Dh changed the tires and now the brakes drag........so he will have to fix that. I plan to take it to the bike shop i found who WILL work on walmart bikes, see if they can oil it up and get it ready for riding outside. dh will not wat to pay any $$ for it I can tell you that  much ! lol

I just wish swimming were more natural !

 

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Girl Passing on Left - 2009-03-19 2:31 PM
maxmansmom - 2009-03-19 7:30 AM

I so appreciate all of you for taking time to help me along the way !  I have had so much help in learning along the way !!

You are the greatest team and I really do want you all to know how much I appreciate you sharing what you have learned with me !

Tonight is our first Rubber Ducky swim club swim.  One of the better swimmers will be there for sure, 'cause I BEGGED HIM ! lol

I also saw the gal who was in the lane next to me at the tri swim. I did not know her until then but saw her last night at the Y and literally BOWED to her !  You know the "I'm not worthy" thing.....she giggled and I hope I made her feel really good about her work and her abilities !!

you are such a lovey! It is easy to want to help you Jules! you have such heart and soul! I cant wait to see you in action in your first Sprint Tri....You are going to rock it! and I think your form in the pool is awesome! how long short ago did you start swimming? you are doing great! KIU GIRL!

Aww thank you. Let me see, I think I started to learn to swim with my face in the water in October 'cause that is when I went just to learn to show DD how to put her face in the water.  I knew she would not if she never saw me do it.  HOWEVER when I was in high school i was held under the water too long and was terrified of it after that. 
One of the lifeguards invited me to do the tri that I just did and I started to learn to swim from there.  HOWEVER I see that I have taken rolling with the hips TOO literally and have been turing my entire body to turn ! WAY overcompensating.
Last time I swam i did it with trying to turn my torso and not the legs..........good grief, also tried to quicken my swim stroke.  It looked like I had nowhere to go fast in the tri ! lol

I never ran in my life (big boobs hurt even when you are young when they do the bouncy thing).  So I just got a bra made of steel and started that back in October too.  I have not been on a bike outside since dd was born (4 1/2 year ago).......can you imagine what I'll do wrong on that thing ? LOL  Dh changed the tires and now the brakes drag........so he will have to fix that. I plan to take it to the bike shop i found who WILL work on walmart bikes, see if they can oil it up and get it ready for riding outside. dh will not wat to pay any $$ for it I can tell you that  much ! lol

I just wish swimming were more natural !

Some people are obviously very good swimmers, but it's not really natural at all for humans to swim. We are, however, built to run.

Did you find slicks for your bike?

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Offthegrid - 2009-03-18 7:22 PM which brings me to yet another question: How long (time) of a swimming workout warrants extra recovery food? Tonight I did buy chocolate milk because I didn't want to run into Sunday's problem...
Excellent on the improvement, Susie. I can't believe how well you keep up the training with all that's going on for you. I'd find a cave and sit alone whining, if it were me! As to recovery nutrition, there's a confusing bunch of research out there about. I've looked at some of it trying to convince my sister that it's better to do long-slow to melt fat than hard-fast. A good rule of thumb (we call those rules of dumb in laboratories, btw) is to only worry about recovery nutrition when your workouts are more than 2 hours long. Your body has plenty of reserves to get you to that point. You then have 24 hours to replenish and it's best to do that with meals rather than liquids. The old 30 minute rule was from data out of U of F (gatorade country) on sports teams (football, basketball, track, etc. - not what we do!). If you're going longer than 2 hours, you should fuel as you go, of course. And that will most likely be liquids due to exercise induced vomiting issues! Swimming is special because it messes with your internal thermometer as well as the exercise part. Your brain thinks it needs to heat you up and the most efficient way to do that is to burn calories in the gut, so you get that hungry feeling. There are recent studies that show that people tend to overcompensate for calories when they swim, possibly because of the thermoregulatory issues, and actually gain weight. Be really careful about post-swimming intake - you probably didn't burn as many calories in that swim as your stomach is telling you. Eat fiber to satisfy the hunger rather than sugars (chocolate milk, for example). Then just follow your normal diet. Remember, if you're building your workouts, you should also increase your caloric intake to compensate so your body doesn't go into "starvation" mode. On the other hand, some people swear by recovery nutrition, so if it makes you feel better and doesn't make you gain weight, go for it! Trish

Trish, thank you so much for this info!!!  I totally agree that the research is confusing.  I've always felt that I can go for 2 hours without nutrition, either biking or running.  But I have always had issues with hydration while I'm running, and even during a half marathon race I don't drink anything.  Unfortunately now I'm training for an HM (which will take me much longer than 2 hours ), I'm trying to "practice" nutrition and hydration, and see how different products affect me.  So far the bike practice is ok, but I'm really failing at the run practice.  Any suggestions?

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Hi guys...still healing, but did get in a swim!! no inspires for the next few days....til then know I am with you in spirit...hoping you are all getting closer to those goals we all spoke of when we introduced ourselves to each other! time to get busy....tri season has arrived! GO TEAM!!!!!!

Have a great day! ITS ALMOST FRIDAY! Not that I am trying to wish my life away or anything. Have a great rest of your Thursday! TRAIN WELL!

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NoSit - 2009-03-19 2:00 PM
Offthegrid - 2009-03-18 7:22 PM which brings me to yet another question: How long (time) of a swimming workout warrants extra recovery food? Tonight I did buy chocolate milk because I didn't want to run into Sunday's problem...
Excellent on the improvement, Susie. I can't believe how well you keep up the training with all that's going on for you. I'd find a cave and sit alone whining, if it were me! As to recovery nutrition, there's a confusing bunch of research out there about. I've looked at some of it trying to convince my sister that it's better to do long-slow to melt fat than hard-fast. A good rule of thumb (we call those rules of dumb in laboratories, btw) is to only worry about recovery nutrition when your workouts are more than 2 hours long. Your body has plenty of reserves to get you to that point. You then have 24 hours to replenish and it's best to do that with meals rather than liquids. The old 30 minute rule was from data out of U of F (gatorade country) on sports teams (football, basketball, track, etc. - not what we do!). If you're going longer than 2 hours, you should fuel as you go, of course. And that will most likely be liquids due to exercise induced vomiting issues! Swimming is special because it messes with your internal thermometer as well as the exercise part. Your brain thinks it needs to heat you up and the most efficient way to do that is to burn calories in the gut, so you get that hungry feeling. There are recent studies that show that people tend to overcompensate for calories when they swim, possibly because of the thermoregulatory issues, and actually gain weight. Be really careful about post-swimming intake - you probably didn't burn as many calories in that swim as your stomach is telling you. Eat fiber to satisfy the hunger rather than sugars (chocolate milk, for example). Then just follow your normal diet. Remember, if you're building your workouts, you should also increase your caloric intake to compensate so your body doesn't go into "starvation" mode. On the other hand, some people swear by recovery nutrition, so if it makes you feel better and doesn't make you gain weight, go for it! Trish

Trish, thank you so much for this info!!!  I totally agree that the research is confusing.  I've always felt that I can go for 2 hours without nutrition, either biking or running.  But I have always had issues with hydration while I'm running, and even during a half marathon race I don't drink anything.  Unfortunately now I'm training for an HM (which will take me much longer than 2 hours ), I'm trying to "practice" nutrition and hydration, and see how different products affect me.  So far the bike practice is ok, but I'm really failing at the run practice.  Any suggestions?

do you have an energy belt with the little hydration bottles? I use this for anything over 10 miles running...so in otherwords not often! haha

I bought mine at Runners World but see them all over the place online. I also will use gu...it is one of the few energy substances that seem to work when I am in motion and can not chew/swallow dry and chewy power bars or cliff bars...gu seems to go down easily and they have some good flavors...others hate it! I cant imagine all the years of mtn bike racing without gu! it has saved me from MAJOR BONKING on the back side of many cross country courses and uphill races.



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Girl Passing on Left - 2009-03-19 5:06 PM
Sledge - 2009-03-19 2:57 PM

NoSit - 2009-03-19 2:00 PM
Offthegrid - 2009-03-18 7:22 PM which brings me to yet another question: How long (time) of a swimming workout warrants extra recovery food? Tonight I did buy chocolate milk because I didn't want to run into Sunday's problem...
Excellent on the improvement, Susie. I can't believe how well you keep up the training with all that's going on for you. I'd find a cave and sit alone whining, if it were me! As to recovery nutrition, there's a confusing bunch of research out there about. I've looked at some of it trying to convince my sister that it's better to do long-slow to melt fat than hard-fast. A good rule of thumb (we call those rules of dumb in laboratories, btw) is to only worry about recovery nutrition when your workouts are more than 2 hours long. Your body has plenty of reserves to get you to that point. You then have 24 hours to replenish and it's best to do that with meals rather than liquids. The old 30 minute rule was from data out of U of F (gatorade country) on sports teams (football, basketball, track, etc. - not what we do!). If you're going longer than 2 hours, you should fuel as you go, of course. And that will most likely be liquids due to exercise induced vomiting issues! Swimming is special because it messes with your internal thermometer as well as the exercise part. Your brain thinks it needs to heat you up and the most efficient way to do that is to burn calories in the gut, so you get that hungry feeling. There are recent studies that show that people tend to overcompensate for calories when they swim, possibly because of the thermoregulatory issues, and actually gain weight. Be really careful about post-swimming intake - you probably didn't burn as many calories in that swim as your stomach is telling you. Eat fiber to satisfy the hunger rather than sugars (chocolate milk, for example). Then just follow your normal diet. Remember, if you're building your workouts, you should also increase your caloric intake to compensate so your body doesn't go into "starvation" mode. On the other hand, some people swear by recovery nutrition, so if it makes you feel better and doesn't make you gain weight, go for it! Trish

Trish, thank you so much for this info!!!  I totally agree that the research is confusing.  I've always felt that I can go for 2 hours without nutrition, either biking or running.  But I have always had issues with hydration while I'm running, and even during a half marathon race I don't drink anything.  Unfortunately now I'm training for an HM (which will take me much longer than 2 hours ), I'm trying to "practice" nutrition and hydration, and see how different products affect me.  So far the bike practice is ok, but I'm really failing at the run practice.  Any suggestions?

do you have an energy belt with the little hydration bottles? I use this for anything over 10 miles running...so in otherwords not often! haha

I bought mine at Runners World but see them all over the place online. I also will use gu...it is one of the few energy substances that seem to work when I am in motion and can not chew/swallow dry and chewy power bars or cliff bars...gu seems to go down easily and they have some good flavors...others hate it! I cant imagine all the years of mtn bike racing without gu! it has saved me from MAJOR BONKING on the back side of many cross country courses and uphill races.

The problem isn't that I can't carry stuff with me when I'm running.  The problem is that I choke when I try to drink, and I'm not willing to slow down and walk.  Go figure!  

I've started practicing with gu on the bike, and also shot blocks.  I haven't had any problems with either product.  I'll probably stick with them for my HM.

 

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you need to keep pushing yourself to take the items...I do the same on my bike...but find it is much easier to drink with little or no slowing down now! practice makes perfect...in almost anything you practice on!

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Hi Girl Passing ln Lt Group- hope you don't mind me dropping in- Amy M said some wonderful things about your group- hope I can hang out a bit if ok!!! Thanks Julie for the invite!!

Doing this tri stuff for about 5+ yrs- my eldest daughter ( age 25)  got me involved by suggesting "mum - you can do this!!" and so the story goes. I'm now 49 ( will be switching age groups this yr... hmmmm... ) came form a volleyball background- after some timultuous years of recovering from kidney cancer- well here I am. Lots of scars- and lets say lots of cool stories! Anyway- technically, I am a crappy swimmer- can go forever-however lack technique... love the bike- but can always hope to go faster( we live in the flat lands in southwestern Ontrio- no hills- so plan to learn to love hills this yr!)- and a slogger on the run. Planning on 2 HIM's this yr- have a 30 km race ( ie 18 miles) planned end of this month. So - if I can hang out a bit I'd appreciate it!!

 

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Hi Girl Passing ln Lt Group- hope you don't mind me dropping in- Amy M said some wonderful things about your group- hope I can hang out a bit if ok!!! Thanks Julie for the invite!!

Doing this tri stuff for about 5+ yrs- my eldest daughter ( age 25)  got me involved by suggesting "mum - you can do this!!" and so the story goes. I'm now 49 ( will be switching age groups this yr... hmmmm... ) came form a volleyball background- after some timultuous years of recovering from kidney cancer- well here I am. Lots of scars- and lets say lots of cool stories! Anyway- technically, I am a crappy swimmer- can go forever-however lack technique... love the bike- but can always hope to go faster( we live in the flat lands in southwestern Ontrio- no hills- so plan to learn to love hills this yr!)- and a slogger on the run. Planning on 2 HIM's this yr- have a 30 km race ( ie 18 miles) planned end of this month. So - if I can hang out a bit I'd appreciate it!!

 

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[OPEN WATER ????!!!! ARE YOU CRAZY ?.............  (it does sound cool, fun.......like I'd be a big brave girl and all).......hmmmm perhaps you could take me to the lake and throw me in so I can see what it's like.......  can I wear a rubber ducky floatie ?

Hmmmmm might have to look into that swim safe thingy for open water

I'm so easy to tempt you know ! lol......... when is this tri ?

hum you can put a rubber ducky cap if you want and draw a rubber ducky on you wetsuit. A rubber ducky wetsuit (all yellow and with a tail), that's a nice image LOL!



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Hi Girl Passing ln Lt Group- hope you don't mind me dropping in- Amy M said some wonderful things about your group- hope I can hang out a bit if ok!!! Thanks Julie for the invite!!

Doing this tri stuff for about 5+ yrs- my eldest daughter ( age 25)  got me involved by suggesting "mum - you can do this!!" and so the story goes. I'm now 49 ( will be switching age groups this yr... hmmmm... ) came form a volleyball background- after some timultuous years of recovering from kidney cancer- well here I am. Lots of scars- and lets say lots of cool stories! Anyway- technically, I am a crappy swimmer- can go forever-however lack technique... love the bike- but can always hope to go faster( we live in the flat lands in southwestern Ontrio- no hills- so plan to learn to love hills this yr!)- and a slogger on the run. Planning on 2 HIM's this yr- have a 30 km race ( ie 18 miles) planned end of this month. So - if I can hang out a bit I'd appreciate it!!

 

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wow I like you tons already!!

I love my bike - and hate riding hills but seem to be getting easier as I continue!

I too am a cancer survivor! not sure if  I have more scars from racing my mtn bike or from all the various prcoedures I have had done. Happy to announce I am a 22 yr survivor! and counting!!!

I too hate~ dislike~ am liking ~ will soon love to swim! you cant help to with this group...you will get many who enjoy shoving you in the pool! just you wait and see!

WELCOME! you will find we have a chatty team....so, dont be away too long or you will be forever trying to catch up! ;-)

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chipit muffin - 2009-03-19 5:08 PM [OPEN WATER ????!!!! ARE YOU CRAZY ?.............  (it does sound cool, fun.......like I'd be a big brave girl and all).......hmmmm perhaps you could take me to the lake and throw me in so I can see what it's like.......  can I wear a rubber ducky floatie ?

Hmmmmm might have to look into that swim safe thingy for open water

I'm so easy to tempt you know ! lol......... when is this tri ?

hum you can put a rubber ducky cap if you want and draw a rubber ducky on you wetsuit. A rubber ducky wetsuit (all yellow and with a tail), that's a nice image LOL!

thats nice of you to make her feel so comfy with the duckies Isabelle!

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Sledge - 2009-03-19 4:32 PM

The problem isn't that I can't carry stuff with me when I'm running.  The problem is that I choke when I try to drink, and I'm not willing to slow down and walk.  Go figure!  

I've started practicing with gu on the bike, and also shot blocks.  I haven't had any problems with either product.  I'll probably stick with them for my HM.

After 13 marathons, I have tried lots of combinations and snorted way too much water/gatorade/ultimax/powerade or whatever concoction they happen to be serving. With paper cups, do practice pinching to make a small spout- it does limit how much gets splashed on your face. I would also suggest slowing down a bit- those few seconds to make sure that you get more in your mouth than on your face can easily be made up in a HM. If you have a sensitive stomach, you might want to bring your own sport drink or practice with whatever the race provides.

I am a fan of both gu (Mint Choc-YUM! :P)and shot blocks too for my long runs (2h+) and have watched friends also use gummy bears, jelly beans, pretzels and other types of gels. Play around with timing- every 45 min works well for me. 

I am personally not a fan of bars on the run but DH keeps telling me that when I start going on longer rides and prepping for the big race, I will need to be able to take in solids.

What other nutrition does everyone use for their long training days?    

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HelenR - 2009-03-19 5:38 PM

Hi Girl Passing ln Lt Group- hope you don't mind me dropping in- Amy M said some wonderful things about your group- hope I can hang out a bit if ok!!! Thanks Julie for the invite!!

Doing this tri stuff for about 5+ yrs- my eldest daughter ( age 25)  got me involved by suggesting "mum - you can do this!!" and so the story goes. I'm now 49 ( will be switching age groups this yr... hmmmm... ) came form a volleyball background- after some timultuous years of recovering from kidney cancer- well here I am. Lots of scars- and lets say lots of cool stories! Anyway- technically, I am a crappy swimmer- can go forever-however lack technique... love the bike- but can always hope to go faster( we live in the flat lands in southwestern Ontrio- no hills- so plan to learn to love hills this yr!)- and a slogger on the run. Planning on 2 HIM's this yr- have a 30 km race ( ie 18 miles) planned end of this month. So - if I can hang out a bit I'd appreciate it!!

thanks,  

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Welcome, Helen! By SW Ontario, do you mean you are in the horseshoe? I might have to personally come and welcome you to the group. I am visiting my parents in Mississauga next week. Which HIM's are you doing? Are you coming out to Calgary for the new 70.3?  

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