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2008-07-14 6:34 PM

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Subject: I know this doesn't replace medical advice but ? about KNEE PAIN

any insight on why my right knee gets sore (enough to have to slow my pace WAY down or even stop within minutes) each time I run now - and it begins always between 14-17 minutes into my run (starts out fine).  I am going to take a short break from running and HOPE that will be enough as I have a sprint in less than 2 weeks.

short history - I USED to have troubles with BOTH knees when I first tried to run a couple of years ago when I was WAY heavier.  I was diagnosed with Patello Femoral syndrome - got orthotics (which I still wear religiously)....the orthotics and weight loss seemed to do the trick - My knees have been mostly pain free for about 1.5 years now.  The pain I am having now is on the outside part of my knee cap and below.  I am wondering if it might be something as simple as getting new orthotics (since mine are over 2 years old now and I got them when I weighed a lot more)....what is the lifespan of orthotics anyway?  Or maybe it's my new runners - but I have had them for nearly 2 months now and they didn't bother knee initially?

I will be seeking professional help if a week off of running doesn't cure it...but would love any insight you might be able to offer in the meantime - thanks.

 

2008-07-14 6:40 PM
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forgot to add that the orthotics were to correct over-pronating (four pregnancies really stretched the ligaments in my feet and they got really flat)....as well - it was discovered that I have a leg-length discrepancy - so a slight lift was added to one of my orthotics.
2008-07-14 7:26 PM
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i'm not a doctor....but i do play one on tv.....

if the pain is on the outside of the knee, it could be a IT band issue.

 

just my $0.02.....

2008-07-14 7:41 PM
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Not a doctor, but I'm a nurse!! Which is only pertinent because I'm a nurse who happens to have had similar issues. In my case it was ITB . Same story as what you describe:happens 15 or 20 min into the run. I got some wicked good ART and also changed my running terrain. I was running on roads which have a slope and even though I switched sides frequently I still ended up injured.

Between the ART and terrain change my issues have been resolved. I keep my IT in shape now with a foam roller.

Hope this helps!
2008-07-14 8:08 PM
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If I may add one thing, you mentioned that you haven't changed a piece of running equipment in over 2 years!!! I must say that has to be part of the problem....
2008-07-15 12:43 AM
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thanks for the info - it DOES look like ITB syndrome (once i looked it up!)

that doesn't look good for the tri I had planned on the 27th!  I read that I need to cut out/back/restrict running and cycling and then slowly wean back into it....

I will be calling tomorrow to get a formal assessment/diagnosis....I am not really sure what is causing this - I don't *think* it is my training schedule because I didn't really do anything recently that I hadn't done before - I was actually running LESS lately than I had earlier in the year.

I read that overpronation, leg length discrepancy, wrong shoes can cause it - and if my orthotics are no longer working as they should then they might very well be the culprit.

I am so BUMMED!!

2008-07-15 11:33 AM
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I am glad you are getting an assessment done. I would go with the orthotics being the primary reason, plus the leg-length. Get a massage and some new orthotics and I would think you might be feeling better. I am off to the bike today.

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2008-07-15 11:44 AM
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thanks.... I've got an appt today at 2:00 - with a chiropractor who works out of my personal training gym.  He also does orthotics, ART, and running gait analysis.  I think he is a good 'first line' person to see - and then go from there.

He is also an experienced runner himself (runs sub 3h marathons).  And he will be able to tell me what/how to alter my personal training sessions because he is familiar with all of the trainers and what they do is a bonus too I think.

Lets hope it's an 'EASY FIX'....and that I still have some training options....

2008-07-15 12:18 PM
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When was the last time you replaced your shoes?  Just a thought.  At about 6 months with one pair of shoes my knees start to hurt.  New shoes and the problem is eliminated immediatley.
2008-07-15 12:25 PM
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Dude!?! This blows! Heal up fast! We'll miss you at Diva's!
2008-07-15 12:35 PM
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I know Chris - i am so bummed! I am so stubborn that I am still 'hoping' and crossing my fingers that there may be some way I will get the 'approval' to still do it (and just not 'race' it)....but part of me doesn't want to do it if I CAN'T 'race it', ykwim?

Matt - My shoes aren't that old - I just bought them at the end of May (on the 28th - I just went and looked up my receipt to be sure).  I ran in them all of June with no problems so I don't think it is the shoes....

2008-07-15 12:43 PM
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update with link of who I am seeing this afternoon:

http://www.fasttrackchiro.com/

(seems like a good choice, no?)

2008-07-15 1:38 PM
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If it is IT band syndrome, one thing that comes highly recommended is the foam roller-very cheap fix that has helped tons of runners. Good luck with your visit to the Doc.
2008-07-15 1:59 PM
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Foam rollers are great for your IT Band, actually great for all muscles.  I highly recommend it if you haven't tried them before.
2008-07-15 2:51 PM
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Hey sorry to hear about the ITBS. Glad to hear you are going to see a doctor/chiropractor who can prescribe some stretch/strength exercises into you regimine.

I got ITBS over a year ago, and stubbornly decided to not address the issue for 8 painful months. Over the past several months I visited a PT and had a gait analysis done. Both were equally important but definently think the gait analysis was more critical as the physician noticed that I "overstrided" which put unneccessary pressure on my IT Bands. Since visiting with the doctors I have been slowly increasing my runs and yesterday ran for 30 minutes straight for the first time since April.

Best of Luck and let us know what the chiropractor says.

Rich
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