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2008-02-06 6:19 PM


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Subject: How much OWS practice?
Can anyone tell me how much OWS practice does one shoot for before their first Tri? Mine will be 1500m in the Ohio. Currently training at the local Y. WIll I need to make it part of my training closer to the race or just enough to "get my feet wet" with the whole OWS experience?


2008-02-06 6:32 PM
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Get what you can. Nothing is worse than the shock of open water combined with all of the flailing arms and feet that will beat you about the head and neck. Feeling comfortable in a variety of conditions would definitely be helpful. Most of us are limited by availability, weather, etc.
2008-02-06 7:53 PM
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Get in as much OWS time to ensure three things:

1.  Make sure the waves and choppiness of the water doesn't make you sea sick

2.  Make sure the added buoyancy of your wetsuit does not make you motion sick

3.  Practice sighting on things to keep from zig-zagging.

Maybe someone esle can add to this but I'm thinking, water is water.....of course salt water is different than fresh water.

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2008-02-06 8:06 PM
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Subject: RE: How much OWS practice?
Rogillio - 2008-02-06 8:53 PM

Get in as much OWS time to ensure three things:

1. Make sure the waves and choppiness of the water doesn't make you sea sick

2. Make sure the added buoyancy of your wetsuit does not make you motion sick

3. Practice sighting on things to keep from zig-zagging.

Maybe someone esle can add to this but I'm thinking, water is water.....of course salt water is different than fresh water.

~Mike

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plus make sure you can use your goggles and see with the sun rising in the sky. More ows practice is always better. Come June I barely ever swim at the pool any more. I'll start ows as soon as possible probably in May. The view is so much better, doesn't smell and it is really fun 

2008-02-06 8:14 PM
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As soon as I can tolerate the water with my wetsuit I likely will not be in a pool until October. I so much prefer OWS.

2008-02-06 8:45 PM
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Subject: RE: How much OWS practice?
I've done 0 and it's my biggest weakness.. funny how that works out.



Though I hope to change that this year.


2008-02-06 9:41 PM
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Subject: RE: How much OWS practice?
Some people freak out in the first experience in open water. It's hard to know how you will react until you first try it. If you are one of those who take a while to adjust, then you need to get as much practice as you can. If you don't have problems adjusting to open water, more practice is helpful but not imperative. More practice will help with sighting, swimming straight and just getting a sense for pacing when you have nothing to go by other than feel.

Luckily, I didn't have a problem adjusting to open water. My first race was in early May race, and the water in Colorado in early May is still darn cold. I only had one chance to practice for about 15 minutes before my first race, but everything worked out OK. After that, I tried to swim in open water about twice a month, both for the practice and just because it was fun. I would do it more often if I had more convenient options.
2008-02-07 7:25 AM
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Subject: RE: How much OWS practice?
As much as possible.  Get use to seeing little fishys swimming by or the occassional seaweed getting tangled in your feet.   Race day is not the time to fight all those imaginary monsters that lurk beneath the murky waters.
2008-02-07 7:37 AM
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Subject: RE: How much OWS practice?
As much as possible, and do the course if you can so that you are familiar with the current, where the sun is etc. Pool swimming is great, but there is no substitute for OWS if you are doing OWS races. As previous posts have said, you need to get used to not seeing the black line, stuff hitting you like seaweed or sticks or people.
2008-02-07 8:03 AM
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Subject: RE: How much OWS practice?
If you are comfortable with ow swimming then i dont think ows are a big deal.  I do 99.9% of my swims in a 25 meter pool.  If you are not a strong swimmer and uncomfortable with the thought of ow swims then definitely get out there and get some swims in so its not a freak out on race day.
2008-02-07 8:08 AM
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It's more than just a comfort issue (once you are over any of those issues).  Fast OWS'ing is a different animal than fast pool swimming.  It requires a slightly different skill set if you want to be at the FOP.  Tactics such as drafting, getting around traffic, figuring out how to deal with waves and currents, picking a good line, sighting, etc, are all skills that will help you become FOP aside from being a fast pool swimmer. 



2008-02-07 8:19 AM
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I had never done an open water swim before my first triathlon last summer. I practiced sighting in the pool to prepare myself for that aspect of the swim, and my training partner and I spent time swimming right next to each other, and drafting off each other to prepare for that part of the swim. the biggest issue I had was swimming straight, and getting used to having people right next to you and all around you. I don't know if practicing in the open water before would have helped me, unless I was in a group, because my issues stemmed from being around other people and not just swimming in the open water.
2008-02-07 10:09 AM
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I'm not saying any of the other advice is wrong - try to practice outside, but I didn't need it.  I practiced a couple times in the pool before the race with my wetsuit and practiced sighting.  Don't get me wrong, I WANTED to get a couple OW swims in, but logistically, it wasn't going to work for me.  I had absolutely NO problem during the event.

But let me note:  I love to swim, used to be a lifeguard, scuba dive, etc.  I feel completely at home in the water and had no fears of the swim.  I was a little aprehensive of the so called "washing machine" of hundreds of people starting all together, so I decided to take BT advice and start towards outside edge of the main pack.  I realized quickly that I was able to get ahead of the main pack pretty quickly and have my space.  I'm not the best swimmer, but almost alway get out of the water in the top 20% of swimmers.

2008-02-07 10:17 AM
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I'll echo what many have said - if your race is an OWS then practice OWS as much as possible. Lots of benefits from getting comfortable with the wetsuit, to sighting and water conditions.

I don't do much OWS practice since it doesn't help me with my flip-turns.
2008-02-07 10:44 AM
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monkeyboy64 - 2008-02-06 7:32 PM Get what you can. Nothing is worse than the shock of open water combined with all of the flailing arms and feet that will beat you about the head and neck. Feeling comfortable in a variety of conditions would definitely be helpful. Most of us are limited by availability, weather, etc.

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2008-02-07 10:49 AM
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trophytaker - 2008-02-07 8:19 AM I don't know if practicing in the open water before would have helped me, unless I was in a group, because my issues stemmed from being around other people and not just swimming in the open water.

Good point.  A group won't simulate the wave start, but it'll help some.  It's also safer.  And as every one has said, the less comfortable you are, the more practice you need.

If you have an ocean swim coming up, I'll follow you and zap you with a small taser to simulate the jelly fish.



2008-02-07 2:17 PM
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Another thought, if your OW area has pylons, or a diving deck or something that your can swim around, simulates the Buoys that mark the course.    Practice swimming in a curving arc.   The turns around Buoys are chokepoints and whether you can sprint to the inside, or be safe and go wide is nice to know.

Practice stopping and threading water while putting goggles back on.   Nothing worse than the have screwed up goggles with water inside/leaking and people plowing over you.

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