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 2005-05-01 10:41 PM |
Champion  5183    Wisconsin |  Subject: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri?I have been looking at race times from events from last year. I know that for my first race, the idea is to finish and have fun, but the ole competitive genes seem to have resurfaced this week. Is 1:40 a reasonable goal? For a 1/4 mi swim, 15 mi bike, 5k run? I know I can do the swim in under 10 minutes, the bike is my weak part, but I have a month or so to get my confidence up and to get in some miles-- how much transition time does a first timer typically need? It's also OK if an experienced tri-er tells to me stuff it, to ignore times, and go have fun. It's also OK if the bear tells me to quit calculatin' and start ridin'. |
| 2005-05-01 10:47 PM in reply to: #151010 |
Veteran 250 Madison, WI | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? possum which tri you doing? |
| 2005-05-01 10:49 PM in reply to: #151010 |
Champion 5183 Wisconsin | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? dunno. I am already registered for 2 Danskin women's events, Orlando and Pleasant Prairie and I am not worried about those bc there are a TON of first timers, and SAlly Edwards, teh spokesperson, always finishes last.... but your last post re: Pardeeville got me thinkin'-- maybe I can do non Danskin's too! So, I guess I am wondering if I could do 1:40 at pardeeville, or lake mills... and I am wondering about Badger state games... |
| 2005-05-01 11:04 PM in reply to: #151010 |
Elite Veteran 781 | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? I know you know that wind and weather can wreak havoc on pre-race goals, and I'm not familiar with the course. Having said that, in general, how fast can you bike and run? If you estimate your swim time at 10 minutes, and estimate your run time at 30 (completely notional--I have no idea how fast you generally run), that would give you about an hour to bike 15 miles. A 15 MPH bike time? Completely do-able given the right bike and conditions. You can waste a minute or two in transitions (and I'm in the category where every second counts), but transitions won't suck up too much time. Unless, of course you forget where your rack is...not that I've ever done that. Nope, not even in January. Anyway, you get the idea of how to set your time goal. Good luck with your races. Edited by lynda 2005-05-01 11:04 PM |
| 2005-05-01 11:04 PM in reply to: #151010 |
Veteran 250 Madison, WI | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? Come and do Pardeeville with me! Come on, come on! Our times wil probably be about the same. It will be fun! |
| 2005-05-02 6:02 AM in reply to: #151010 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? Stuff it, ignore times, and go have fun. Asking "what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri?" is akin to asking "How fast should I run?" Every person has different abilities and will complete the legs and the transitions in different times. If I tell you it is "reasonable" to expect to average over 21mph on the bike, are you going to hold yourself to that standard? Train your best, practice, practice, practice your transitions, then go have a blast. Leave your watch at home, the RDs usually provide a big clock at the finish. If you're still curious, pick a triathlon to enter, then go look at last year's results. You'll see a wide range of times, just try to fit in there somewhere. What ever time you take, it will be a PR for you, and will give you something to shoot for in your second tri. Even if you're DFL, you will have accomplished gobs more than those who didn't bother to get out of bed that morning. Oh, yeah: quit calculatin' and start ridin'. |
| 2005-05-02 7:00 AM in reply to: #151010 |
Champion 7036 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? A lot of first-timers struggle with their transitions. I would suggest that you spend some time practicing at full speed. Lay your gear out and practice five or ten times. You'll find some things, like socks or pulling on your shirt that will seem very awkward and slow you down. Work on those things specifically. I see a lot of people taking time to eat or drink during transition - no need to waste the time there- plenty of time for that once you are on the bike or running. Also, you should be doing some bike/run bricks to get your legs accustomed to making the transition from the bike to run. At least once prior to your race do a full bike distance followed by a run - that's the only way you'll know how you're legs are going to feel and how you will need to approach the first part of the run. Your first race will be a tremendous learning experience, treat it that way and just worry about getting to the finish. You can worry about improving your time at your second race! Mark |
| 2005-05-02 8:23 AM in reply to: #151010 |
Member 414 | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? I have also read similar advice. So I looked up the results for the last couple years. My question is how much does a course change to year from year. Last years times for the swim started at the 6:30 (1/4 mile) mark, 2004 times began at the 3:30 mark. What are typical 100m splits for sprint swims for FOPers, MOPers, and BOPers. I have and idea of where I come in but I was more curious about is the course changing dramatically. By the way looking at the Effingham Sprint in Effingham Illinois. |
| 2005-05-02 8:25 AM in reply to: #151010 |
| 17 | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? Thank you soooo much for posting this. I have my first tri in 3 weeks and my goal is to not finish last. The bike is the weakest part for me and my times are like I'm going to finish last. Thanks for the advice. |
| 2005-05-02 8:46 AM in reply to: #151010 |
Champion 4902 Ottawa, Ontario | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? Check out the results from last years's tri that you will be doing; it should be available on the promoter's website. I just verified last year's times for my first sprint; the first place finisher came in in 58 minutes and 18 seconds and the last place finisher came in with a time of 2 hours and 10 minutes. Any time in between is reasonable! Judging by your log, and barring any unforseen circumstances, a time of 1:40 would be just about right. Of course the exact time will depend on your fitness in the three disciplines, weather conditions, whether there are hills or not and your proficiency in the transition area. You can't do anything about hills or the wind, but you can practice transitioning. |
| 2005-05-02 8:49 AM in reply to: #151098 |
| Member 146 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? I can understand your concerns. I am doing the Danskin in Orlando and it is my first tri as well. Although I am in decent shape, it is impossible to replicate the conditions of a race during training. Consequently, my goal is be be slow, smooth, and steady. My only goal for this race is to finish. By nature, I like to push myself, and I will...as soon as I grow accustomed to doing tris. However, this time around, I want my finisher's medal and a time that I will definitely improve on in my next tri. That's it! |
| 2005-05-02 8:56 AM in reply to: #151010 |
| , Alabama | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? Time is not your concern...really. You can't even compare last year's times with this year's times in the same race. The water may be rough one year and smooth the next, the bike may be windy or not. Just set your goal to finish and to have fun. Having prerace goals on your first tri may set yourself up for not enjoying yourself if you don't reach that goal. (I can't even imagine not having fun at a tri!) Just meet people, have fun, start at the start line and don't stop unitl you get to the finish line! Good luck. Sharon |
| 2005-05-07 3:43 PM in reply to: #151112 |
Master 2005 South Florida | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? snikpos - 2005-05-02 8:56 AM Time is not your concern...really. You can't even compare last year's times with this year's times in the same race. The water may be rough one year and smooth the next, the bike may be windy or not. Just set your goal to finish and to have fun. Having prerace goals on your first tri may set yourself up for not enjoying yourself if you don't reach that goal. (I can't even imagine not having fun at a tri!) Just meet people, have fun, start at the start line and don't stop unitl you get to the finish line! Good luck. Sharon What great advice! You just made me feel sooo much better about upcoming race! Having fun/meeting nice folks IS what it's all about. Thanks |
| 2005-05-07 4:59 PM in reply to: #151010 |
| Extreme Veteran 332 PohangSi | Subject: RE: what is reasonable for 1st sprint tri? Yes, 1:40 is a reasonable goal. Though finishing, having fun, seeing how hard you can push yourself and learning something, may be a better goal. Transitions? wetsuit or no wetsuit? Figure 5 mins for each transition and that should give you some extra time to bank. |
| 2005-05-08 12:17 AM in reply to: #151010 |
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| 2005-05-08 11:40 AM in reply to: #154326 |
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