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2009-07-17 5:02 AM


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Subject: Eating prior to long riding weekend......how much?
So tomorrow morning I begin a charity ride. 150 miles, 2 days....75 and 75.

I have never done anything like this, its not a race, and I can go at my own pace. Lots of support on the ride and lots of food on the ride.

But how should I eat today and tonight? I have to be up by about 5am to get to this deal. Going out to dinner tonight with inlaws and friends in different town.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

If it helps, Im a big guy and this will expend alot of energy for me. 


2009-07-17 5:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Eating prior to long riding weekend......how much?
Personally I would just eat anything you want.  There are very few foods that are going to have a detrimental effect on performance.  75 miles is not excessive and more important than the meal the night before will be nutrition on the day.

Anything high in carbs would be good.
2009-07-17 6:25 AM
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If anything, I hope you were hydrating the last few days beforehand (not beer ). Eat your normal routine.  It never hurts to have a decent pasta dinner, if you like that.

2009-07-17 6:30 AM
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Eat a balanced diet today and avoid hard to digest foods like fried or fatty stuff and avoid roughage the night before to minimize GI distress.  If you like pasta and want to eat more carbs like a lot of riders like to do; than go for it.  But, you really don't need to eat any differently for a well-supported ride where, I presume, you will be stopping at the aid stations every 25 miles or so. Enjoy your ride.


2009-07-17 6:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Eating prior to long riding weekend......how much?
Thanks, I figured at my pace and what not it wouldnt be too big a deal. Actually they have aid stations every 10-12 miles as its a cancer ride.

So now for the next question - what to eat the night after the first ride? Looking for recovery issues. I realize I will be real hungry and probably can eat anything I can.

I have ridden 65 miles by myself just out tooling around. Not really concerned of the 75 mile ride the first day. I am concerned about climbing on the second day.

According to the weather.com I will be riding directly into a 15mph head wind both days....fun.
2009-07-17 6:34 AM
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Subject: RE: Eating prior to long riding weekend......how much?
I would have whatever you normally eat.  I usually eat a little more on long bike days - but that's because it doesn't bother me like if I was going for a long run.

I am a fan of pasta the night before a race/event - and it's the one time I can justify white pasta.  I would stay away from anything high-fiber and a lot of dairy sometimes isn't a good idea for some people (it doesn't bother me the night before - but I wouldn't do it the morning of).

Have a great time!

ETA: For after the event - I ate everything in sight when I did the 200k Lung Association ride.  You do need protein and carbs for recovery.  

Edited by Silver_wlf 2009-07-17 6:36 AM


2009-07-17 7:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Eating prior to long riding weekend......how much?
I don't change anything in my diet before a big ride.  I think you can eat normally.  Don't do anything wildly different.  (E.g., if you don't normally get the super-spicy curry, don't make tonight your first time...)
2009-07-17 7:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Eating prior to long riding weekend......how much?
I'd eat big lunch and avoid lots of fiber for dinner night....pasta has a ton of fiber and eating it the night before not so good as it will probably still be in your GI track come the time you start riding.

After first day have a recovery type drink..easy to do is chocolate milk aim for about 75 grams of carbs and 25 grams of protein...try to consume that within 15' of finishing if possible. Go for something liquid not real food at first them eat healthy well rounded food with both carbs and protein.
2009-07-17 8:25 AM
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Subject: RE: Eating prior to long riding weekend......how much?

Some general fueling guidelines:

- The day before racing the breakfast is the most important meal to begin working to have your glycogen storage full, hence go nuts! eat plenty of carb (high and low glycemic), and some protein/good fat. For the rest of the day hydrate, drink some sports drink and eat as usual. At night have a regular size dinner with foods you are used to. It could be a good idea to choose foods rich in carbs with some protein and healthy fat. Don't over do it, just eat normal.

- The morning of: eat 2-4 hrs before to make sure your body process and absorb so it can be available as fuel as soon as possible.

-  The longer you are going to exercise you will require more fuel to begin with hence shoot for the high end (2.5 gr x Kg of weight) when training 3-4 > hrs and the lower end when training < 2 hrs. The more you fuel prior training you'll need more time to absorb it.

- Choose food high in carbs (CHO) and low in protein or fat (choose specially high glycemic carbs)

- Shoot for around 2-2.5 grams of carbs per kilogram of body weight

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Calculate how much CHO you'll need x Kg of body weight:

Assuming a 140 athlete doing a 4-5 hrs ride
1. Body weight in pounds divided by 2.2 (i.e. 140 pounds / 2.2 = 63.6 Kg)
2. Multiply Kg weight x grams of CHO (i.e. 63.6 x 2.5 gr CHO = 159 gr of CHO to be consumed around 2 hrs before training)
3. for a 140 pound athlete, 127 gr of CHO is = to consuming 1 large wheat bagel (66 gr), 1 table spoon of natural peanut butter (5 gr) with honey (11.5 gr) 1 bottle of apple juice 15-16 oz (43 gr), 1 medium size banana (27 gr), total CHO - 152.5 gr
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After training

- it is important to begin restoring your glycogen storage after exercise for a faster recover specially if you are training/racing again the next day. It is suggest a critical window of 15-30 min in which your body will absorb it faster hence within 30 min of completing your training/racing eat/drink food reach in CHO (high glycemic) and some protein. There are different ratios CHo to protein suggest but nothing concrete, something like 4:1 should do the trick.

- you should shoot for 0.9-1.1 gr of CHO x Kg of body weight for the 30 min window, hence for the 140 pound athlete above, it will require around 57-70gr of CHO and around 14-17.5 gr of protein within 30 min of completing the training

- after the 30 min window the athlete should shoot to eat around the same as above 2 hrs after training and the just eat/drink as usual for the rest of the day.

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