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2009-12-11 7:36 AM
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tikicult - 2009-12-09 8:29 AM What is everyone planning on wearing? The weather cannot make up its mind, and I want to be prepared. I was thinking of doing running tights, underarmor tight top and a long sleeve shirt over that, with hat and gloves of course.

It is an easy choice for Jen and I.



Why not these instead?



2009-12-11 11:27 AM
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2009-12-11 3:20 PM
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2009-12-11 4:35 PM
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JeepFleeb - 2009-12-11 11:27 AM I finally bought myself a bib number for the half last night!

I'll be the one in the starting corral near the front with the FiveFingers on.


Do they sell those in the black market? haha.

Good luck Aaron, or better yet, wish me good luck. I'm doing the full and I just did Ironman Arizona.
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2009-12-13 12:53 PM
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Well??????????

How'd everyone do?

Congrats to the finishers........





2009-12-13 1:36 PM
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Goal: sub-11 min/mile pace aka sub-2:24
Actual: 9:50 pace aka 2:10:37

PRed half-mary distance by just under 17 minutes.


(Oh, and the last 5k was my fastest. Averaged sub-9 for the last 3.25 miles)

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2009-12-13 1:53 PM
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2:33:13.  Had a blast!

2009-12-13 3:44 PM
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First time half finisher!

2:26:43

Final 5k was 31:53 which is great for me, especially at the end. As a first-timer I wasn't confident about how I would feel towards the end so I took the first half fairly easy and when I realized I only had a 5k left I picked up the pace. Only walked aid stations.

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2009-12-13 5:51 PM
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Half mary- 2:07:11. 4 minute PR!

Hauled butt the last 5K with 8:30 minute miles. It was all downhill... which helped a lot.

If it hadn't been for my restroom stop, I would have made my goal of 2:06. Oh well, next time.

Congratulations to all the finishers and first timers!!!!

And wonderful job sweetie (Jbrashear)!
2009-12-13 6:55 PM
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First stand alone mary. My goal was 3:30 and finished in 3:39. Still very excited about my time.

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2009-12-13 7:01 PM
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First full marathon. Was shooting for 4:00 and finished 3:59:31. The last 6 miles were completely brutal, but I didn't walk. By far the hardest thing of every done. It makes me have any more appreciate for those who completer Ironmans.
2009-12-13 8:29 PM
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I ran the first have with my wife who left me to complete the full. I finished the half in a time of 2:22. Felt great.
She did awesome.

Did anybody buy one of those bluetooth headsets from Got Wireless at the booth next to the Metro PCS booth. They were selling the $40 headsets for $20. I got one and it does not work correctly. Would like to contact them so that I can change it out. Any help out there?

thanks

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2009-12-13 8:53 PM
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JBrashear - 2009-12-13 1:36 PM Goal: sub-11 min/mile pace aka sub-2:24 Actual: 9:50 pace aka 2:10:37 PRed half-mary distance by just under 17 minutes. (Oh, and the last 5k was my fastest. Averaged sub-9 for the last 3.25 miles)

Nice job!

2009-12-13 8:54 PM
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KSH - 2009-12-13 5:51 PM Half mary- 2:07:11. 4 minute PR! Hauled butt the last 5K with 8:30 minute miles. It was all downhill... which helped a lot. If it hadn't been for my restroom stop, I would have made my goal of 2:06. Oh well, next time. Congratulations to all the finishers and first timers!!!! And wonderful job sweetie (Jbrashear)!

Way to go Karen!

2009-12-13 9:11 PM
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First standalone full.  Goal was sub 3:40, pushing toward 3:30.  Finished in 3:36:12. 

For the record, several people asked during the run, and we all agreed that the mile markers seemed to be late.  (All of the Garmins seemed consistent.)  I showed 26.55 for the course.



2009-12-13 9:13 PM
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To the earlier question of arm warmers...

I wore shorts and t-shirt.  Bought a pair of tube socks and cheap cotton gloves at WalMart yesterday.  Cut the toes off the tube socks and used them as arm warmers.  Ditched them at mile 6 and didn't feel bad about it.  Held on to the gloves until after the lake.  Total cost... < $2.

2009-12-13 9:45 PM
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davidb - 2009-12-13 9:11 PM

First standalone full.  Goal was sub 3:40, pushing toward 3:30.  Finished in 3:36:12. 

For the record, several people asked during the run, and we all agreed that the mile markers seemed to be late.  (All of the Garmins seemed consistent.)  I showed 26.55 for the course.



The half was long too, my Garmin showed 13.25 miles. Karen's showed the same.
2009-12-13 11:11 PM
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JBrashear - 2009-12-13 9:45 PM

davidb - 2009-12-13 9:11 PM

First standalone full.  Goal was sub 3:40, pushing toward 3:30.  Finished in 3:36:12. 

For the record, several people asked during the run, and we all agreed that the mile markers seemed to be late.  (All of the Garmins seemed consistent.)  I showed 26.55 for the course.



The half was long too, my Garmin showed 13.25 miles. Karen's showed the same.


So did Michael's.

That's 3 Garmins that put the course at 13:25 miles.
2009-12-14 8:04 AM
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I ran the full mary, which was just two weeks after IM Cozumel. The IM monkey crawled on my back around mile 10, and I spent the last 16.2 miles trying to ignore him. I struggled to the finish in 4:15, which was 30 - 45 minutes off what I would expect to run fresh.

It hurt, but it was still worth it.
2009-12-14 8:05 AM
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Make that 4.  My 305 had the 1/2 course at 13.25 as well. 

First half mary for me...right on my goal time of 7:00/miles.  1:31:55.  Never had such bad blisters and sharp knee pain in my life.  The 2nd half of that was brutal for me.


2009-12-14 8:08 AM
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When USATF courses are measured, they actually measure the Shortest Possible Route along the planned course. The official measurements will be based on tangents and the inside of all curves. In a crowded road race, almost no one will be able to duplicate this, meaning the distance the average runner covers is pretty much certain to be longer than the certified course distance.

USATF requires a certified course to be measured at least twice, and the measurements have to come out within 0.08% of each other. For a marathon, that's within 110'. From my point of view, I trust certified couse measurements a lot more than I trust my Garmin.
2009-12-14 8:20 AM
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Yes, probably try (about the certified course).  However, for me to compare between races, it's nice to extrapolate back to an even 26.2.   Given the size of the discrepancy in the nominal race distance and what several of us measured for the IM, thats almost a 3 minute difference!

2009-12-14 8:29 AM
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g_shotts - 2009-12-14 8:08 AM

When USATF courses are measured, they actually measure the Shortest Possible Route along the planned course. The official measurements will be based on tangents and the inside of all curves. In a crowded road race, almost no one will be able to duplicate this, meaning the distance the average runner covers is pretty much certain to be longer than the certified course distance.

USATF requires a certified course to be measured at least twice, and the measurements have to come out within 0.08% of each other. For a marathon, that's within 110'. From my point of view, I trust certified couse measurements a lot more than I trust my Garmin.


I'm curious about the method they use to do the measurements. Are they out there w/ surveying equipment, on bikes, or doing it online from Google Maps?

I don't expect it to be exactly 13.1 on my Garmin as I know I'm doing some shifting laterally to get around people & not able to hit the apex of each corner, but I don't see how it was less than 13.2.
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davidb - 2009-12-13 9:11 PM

First standalone full.  Goal was sub 3:40, pushing toward 3:30.  Finished in 3:36:12. 

For the record, several people asked during the run, and we all agreed that the mile markers seemed to be late.  (All of the Garmins seemed consistent.)  I showed 26.55 for the course.



 did you notice when the mile markers seemed late?  I only ask since each time I've done White Rock it was pretty accurate until mile 14ish.  then it was late.   I wonder if they really cut a corner measuring it, or if there is something that interfers with the signal somewhere in there.

Pretty much any certified course will measure longer on a garmin,  since people are not running the same tanget that it's measured on, and the garmin is acquiring it's data at different points

@jonny I've seen people with that little wheel device before measuring shorter races, I'd doubt someone would walk the entire marathon with that to measure it though
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