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2010-05-10 9:31 AM
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Subject: kinetic 1/2 swim
Greg Hawkins of Setup said the buoys drifted, so the swim course was short. Given the fact that some swimmers in the relays swam 19, that is fairly obvious. 19 for a 1/2 IM would be like 15 for 1500 in a pool, which is a world class swim time.



2010-05-10 2:36 PM
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Subject: How far did we swim in Kinetic Half? About 1585 meters (a bit less than a mile)
Here is how I calculated my estimate. First, I took the top ten mens times from last year's swim and averaged them (got 22:08). Second, I took the top ten times from this year's swim and averaged them (26:50). Since we know last years swim was accurate, we can estimate this year's distance using the following ratios

22:08/26:50 = Xmeters/1920meters
=1585

To extrapolate your time for a full 1920 half IM swim using your time on Saturday use this

Sat. time/1585 = X/1920

2010-05-10 2:45 PM
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Subject: RE: How far did we swim in Kinetic Half? About 1585 meters (a bit less than a mile)
drghs3 - 2010-05-10 3:36 PM Here is how I calculated my estimate. First, I took the top ten mens times from last year's swim and averaged them (got 22:08). Second, I took the top ten times from this year's swim and averaged them (26:50). Since we know last years swim was accurate, we can estimate this year's distance using the following ratios 22:08/26:50 = Xmeters/1920meters =1585 To extrapolate your time for a full 1920 half IM swim using your time on Saturday use this Sat. time/1585 = X/1920


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2010-05-10 3:08 PM
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Subject: RE: How far did we swim in Kinetic Half? About 1585 meters (a bit less than a mile)
drghs3 - 2010-05-10 3:36 PM Here is how I calculated my estimate. First, I took the top ten mens times from last year's swim and averaged them (got 22:08). Second, I took the top ten times from this year's swim and averaged them (26:50). Since we know last years swim was accurate, we can estimate this year's distance using the following ratios 22:08/26:50 = Xmeters/1920meters =1585 To extrapolate your time for a full 1920 half IM swim using your time on Saturday use this Sat. time/1585 = X/1920


Are you saying that last year's was faster and longer?  Or did you reverse the times? 
2010-05-10 3:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Kinetic Half : Official Thread
Yes, last year was accurate, this year short.

Last year 1920

This year 1585 estimate

About 4-6 minutes short for most, depending on time.

2010-05-10 3:45 PM
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Divide your swim time this year by 5 and add the result to your time to get your time for a full 1/2 IM swim.

So if you swam 25, divide 25 by 5, add 5 to your time - you would have swam 30!



2010-05-10 4:40 PM
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Well the offical results are in. My watch was right and I did it in 6:56:12. Not blazing, but I beat my last HIM by 2 min!! Oh and I wasn't last!!
2010-05-10 7:41 PM
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That was a great venue under what I would consider moderately challenging conditions.  The water was a perfect temperature, if not a little choppy, the bike course was fun, if not a little windy, and the run was well designed if not a little hilly.  That Setup was not perfectly set up, I think is forgivable. I wouldn't hold that against them.

I gotta say I was humbled Saturday for multiple reasons (chop, cramps...), but I finished my first HIM and am more determined than ever to train for and do well (relatively) at this distance.  
 
2010-05-10 11:41 PM
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Ummm wow that's an impressive formula for the swim!?!!?  And to answer the above question---he reversed the times of the top 10 ave (last year more like 26 or whatever and this year 22....).  Based off my own time I'm going to say the 4-6 mins is about right---I didn't sight well on the way in this year + the chop + better swim training and I'd say my 5 min diff from last year to this year isn't all the course being short!!! 

Anyways----congrats to all those that finished and seems like a bunch of PR's out there which is GREAT!!!!  I'm wondering if the lack of a race clock was due to the wind---before the race I saw the speakers on the deck (near post race food) blow over---maybe they didn't want a clock crashing to the ground...  I have to say I do like this as an early season HIM---give you something to train for/focus on during the winter and sure gives you a great baseline for the season---for those that had a long/rough day-now you know what you need to work on (don't be discouraged it's EARLY!!); for those with PR's---now you have a great building block for an amazing season so get back to work!!!

Edit to add:  OHhhhh yeah seems like lots of first time HIM finishers here too----You guys totally ROCKTongue out

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2010-05-11 7:51 PM
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I did see on Facebook that Set-Up said they took the clock down due to the wind and they didn't want it crashing to the ground...

Good to see a bunch of race reports up for this race!  Oh and I like the "categories" break down of results on Set-Ups site for this race better then in the past.....
2010-05-17 2:51 PM
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finally posted my race report :-)


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