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2010-01-29 6:48 PM in reply to: #2641818 |
Pro 4828 The Land of Ice and Snow | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... Ofergodssakes what happened to my little thread?? First time I have EVER heard of somebody requesting an "elective" IV. Going to withhold further comment on that one.......{insert eye roll here} This does remind me of a funny story though. Years ago when I worked in a pediatric ER, on Friday and Saturday nights the drunken kids would be brought in unconscious from excessive alcohol intake. We would start IV's to rehydrate them and then they would be monitored until morning. There was one wonderful curmudgeonly old Doctor I worked with who insisted we take the IV's out a few hours early. He wanted them rehydrated back to safe levels obviously, but by taking the IVs out a bit early the kids would STILL experience a wicked hangover the next day! |
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2010-01-29 7:01 PM in reply to: #2641818 |
Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... Wow. Helen asks one question and the thread takes off like it was on that other site. |
2010-01-29 7:36 PM in reply to: #2643683 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... 1stTimeTri - 2010-01-29 7:01 PM Wow. Helen asks one question and the thread takes off like it was on that other site. Oh, come on, this is the most fun we've had all week! |
2010-01-29 7:37 PM in reply to: #2643612 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... LSUfan4444 - 2010-01-29 6:07 PM hydration is required after an ironman. Dude, I CRUSH Ironman racing...I have never been in the medical tent nor have I requested an IV. |
2010-01-29 7:44 PM in reply to: #2643762 |
Veteran 593 Mandeville | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... .I have never been in the medical tent nor have I requested an IV. and i never insinuated you had to i only said hydration is needed after an ironman. you can't seriously disagree with that can you? remember, i never said hydration is needed after an ironman via IV, just that hydration is needed I can see i'm going to like posting here. its much better than just the reading i've done the last few years. i'm less than 50 posts in and already being judged and criticized for doing something people disagree with with no substantial reason whatsoever other than, you don't need to do that i do find it hilarious that you actually typed the sentence "I CRUSH Ironman racing" (iconrotflmao.gif) Attachments ---------------- iconrotflmao.gif (1KB - 2 downloads) |
2010-01-29 7:46 PM in reply to: #2641818 |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... aquagirl - 2010-01-29 7:18 AM Has anyone ever volunteered in one? I am wondering what sorts of horrors await me at IMLP............. Aaaah the med tent. I would say I have fond memories, but quite frankly there are a couple I don't really remember much at all. to the side discussion, I have some friends who are special forces and seals and I have seen them bring an IV to a wedding, party, etc for the next morning. They plug themselves in and whamo! hangover gone in a snap. Maybe the true cure for the hangover is a government secret and is stored in area 51. |
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2010-01-29 7:54 PM in reply to: #2643785 |
Master 1610 Kirkland, WA | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... LSUfan4444 - I can see i'm going to like posting here. its much better than just the reading i've done the last few years. Please go post on 'the other' site, and put up a synopsis of how and why you like IV's. . and put a link up for us I'm sure the responses will be less than kind. Bryan - I think all this training you are doing is overrated and you would be faster if you just took in IV's after races to rehydrate quicker Edited by ultrahip_00 2010-01-29 7:54 PM |
2010-01-29 7:56 PM in reply to: #2643758 |
Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... bryancd - 2010-01-29 7:36 PM 1stTimeTri - 2010-01-29 7:01 PM Oh, come on, this is the most fun we've had all week!Wow. Helen asks one question and the thread takes off like it was on that other site. Bryan, I thought you had more fun than that. |
2010-01-29 8:06 PM in reply to: #2643809 |
Veteran 593 Mandeville | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... I think all this training you are doing is overrated and you would be faster if you just took in IV's after races to rehydrate quicker didn't you read, he doesn't need hydration after crushing ironman races he gets his fluids through osmosis i guess Please go post on 'the other' site, and put up a synopsis of how and why you like IV's. no real need to. it isn't a big deal to me, but for some reason it fascinates this board it isn't really surprising to me though. its a common reaction. when someone does something we don't do, alot of people have 2 natural reactions...criticize it or emulate it (Iconcheers.gif) Attachments ---------------- Iconcheers.gif (1KB - 3 downloads) |
2010-01-29 8:12 PM in reply to: #2643830 |
Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... LSUfan4444 - 2010-01-29 8:06 PM didn't you read, he doesn't need hydration after crushing ironman races he gets his fluids through osmosis i guess He said he doesn't need IV fluids. Not hydration. it isn't really surprising to me though. its a common reaction. when someone does something we don't do, alot of people have 2 natural reactions...criticize it or emulate it It's also a common reaction when people do stupid things. Several people have offered good reasons for not doing it. You've just chosen to ignore it. Edited by DerekL 2010-01-29 8:13 PM |
2010-01-29 8:51 PM in reply to: #2643841 |
Veteran 593 Mandeville | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... several people have offered good reasons for not doing it. just because a reason agrees with your opinion doesn't mean its a good reasonnobody had a problem (or voiced a problem) with getting an IV for a mad hangover, so obviously the act of getting the IV when not needed isn't an issue i've repeatedly said I do not take a seat if the tent is full (which has never happened). i always speak to a nurse and explain the situation before hand and offer to have someone else to insert the IV as to not waste their time. ive asked what the difference is between taking a bag of saline when you don't need it, and taking an extra powerbar or gels when you don't need it sorry, you are right..i failed to see the "good" reasons |
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2010-01-29 8:55 PM in reply to: #2643894 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... [/hijack] Helen (aka OP), It is great that you have decided to help out in the medical tent. Not only will they get some great care from you, but also a little eye candy to make their recovery faster. |
2010-01-29 8:58 PM in reply to: #2643894 |
Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... LSUfan4444 - 2010-01-29 8:51 PM several people have offered good reasons for not doing it. just because a reason agrees with your opinion doesn't mean its a good reasonnobody had a problem (or voiced a problem) with getting an IV for a mad hangover, so obviously the act of getting the IV when not needed isn't an issue i've repeatedly said I do not take a seat if the tent is full (which has never happened). i always speak to a nurse and explain the situation before hand and offer to have someone else to insert the IV as to not waste their time. ive asked what the difference is between taking a bag of saline when you don't need it, and taking an extra powerbar or gels when you don't need it sorry, you are right..i failed to see the "good" reasons Well, it's obvious there's no use discussing things with you since you have no intention of listening to what other people say. What in the world would I know about the appropriateness of IV fluids? I mean, you're MARRIED somebody in the medical field. |
2010-01-29 9:02 PM in reply to: #2643894 |
Veteran 593 Mandeville | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... and again, I have never stated or insinuated I think IV's are better hydration than oral hydration i just said I'm going what has always worked for me. same with my endourolytes. although I have read numerous studies that show dehydration and lack f sodium have nothing to do with cramps, i still take them |
2010-01-29 9:06 PM in reply to: #2643912 |
Champion 6046 New York, NY | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... The difference, is that as a previous poster said, an IV is invasive, breaks the barrier protection that your skin is, which gives opportunity for bacteria to enter your body. You are LUCKY nothing bad has happened yet. thrombophlebitis, blood clots, bacteremia, septicemia are just SOME of the possible complications. |
2010-01-29 9:07 PM in reply to: #2643900 |
Veteran 312 St. Paul | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... pga_mike - 2010-01-29 8:55 PM [/hijack] Helen (aka OP), It is great that you have decided to help out in the medical tent. Not only will they get some great care from you, but also a little eye candy to make their recovery faster. Might not be a good thing, they won't be needing anything that causes them to sweat more. |
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2010-01-29 9:09 PM in reply to: #2643904 |
Veteran 593 Mandeville | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... it's obvious there's no use discussing things with you since you have no intention of listening to what other people say. if someone has provided information, or you have information of why an IV is bad for me post race (other than needle issues), I would be happy to hear it normal hydration concerns are always present when considering intravenously or orally |
2010-01-29 9:15 PM in reply to: #2643915 |
Veteran 593 Mandeville | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... TriToy - 2010-01-29 9:06 PM The difference, is that as a previous poster said, an IV is invasive, breaks the barrier protection that your skin is, which gives opportunity for bacteria to enter your body. You are LUCKY nothing bad has happened yet. thrombophlebitis, blood clots, bacteremia, septicemia are just SOME of the possible complications. i'm a diabetic i got used to the risk of needles long ago maybe I am a little numb to that risk, but I think proper prep can go a long way in assuring safety but i do agree, it is a risk |
2010-01-29 9:16 PM in reply to: #2643924 |
Pro 4313 McKinney, TX | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... LSUfan4444 - 2010-01-29 9:09 PM it's obvious there's no use discussing things with you since you have no intention of listening to what other people say. if someone has provided information, or you have information of why an IV is bad for me post race (other than needle issues), I would be happy to hear it normal hydration concerns are always present when considering intravenously or orally 2 doctors have just said why you probably shouldn't.....and yet you still talk about it. Let it go.... |
2010-01-29 9:36 PM in reply to: #2643785 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... LSUfan4444 - 2010-01-29 7:44 PM .I have never been in the medical tent nor have I requested an IV. and i never insinuated you had to i only said hydration is needed after an ironman. you can't seriously disagree with that can you? remember, i never said hydration is needed after an ironman via IV, just that hydration is needed I can see i'm going to like posting here. its much better than just the reading i've done the last few years. i'm less than 50 posts in and already being judged and criticized for doing something people disagree with with no substantial reason whatsoever other than, you don't need to do that i do find it hilarious that you actually typed the sentence "I CRUSH Ironman racing" Well, I finished my last IM race in 9:20 (so that would be crushing it) and I wasn't getting needles in my arm, champ! But I do like you, your new and you are taking some well deserved crap well. Edited by bryancd 2010-01-29 9:37 PM |
2010-01-29 9:39 PM in reply to: #2643920 |
Extreme Veteran 844 | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... Nathanm74 - 2010-01-29 9:07 PM pga_mike - 2010-01-29 8:55 PM [/hijack] Might not be a good thing, they won't be needing anything that causes them to sweat more.Helen (aka OP), It is great that you have decided to help out in the medical tent. Not only will they get some great care from you, but also a little eye candy to make their recovery faster. or raises their pulse rates... as for the rest of the thread, got any salt? |
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2010-01-29 9:47 PM in reply to: #2643956 |
Pro 4313 McKinney, TX | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... bryancd - 2010-01-29 9:36 PM LSUfan4444 - 2010-01-29 7:44 PM .I have never been in the medical tent nor have I requested an IV. and i never insinuated you had to i only said hydration is needed after an ironman. you can't seriously disagree with that can you? remember, i never said hydration is needed after an ironman via IV, just that hydration is needed I can see i'm going to like posting here. its much better than just the reading i've done the last few years. i'm less than 50 posts in and already being judged and criticized for doing something people disagree with with no substantial reason whatsoever other than, you don't need to do that i do find it hilarious that you actually typed the sentence "I CRUSH Ironman racing" Well, I finished my last IM race in 9:20 (so that would be crushing it) and I wasn't getting needles in my arm, champ! But I do like you, your new and you are taking some well deserved crap well. CRUSHING at a 9:20.....?????????? I would only consider it CRUSHING if it was 9:19 or below. |
2010-01-29 9:48 PM in reply to: #2643830 |
Veteran 667 | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... LSUfan4444 - 2010-01-29 8:06 PM I think all this training you are doing is overrated and you would be faster if you just took in IV's after races to rehydrate quicker didn't you read, he doesn't need hydration after crushing ironman races he gets his fluids through osmosis i guess Please go post on 'the other' site, and put up a synopsis of how and why you like IV's. no real need to. it isn't a big deal to me, but for some reason it fascinates this board it isn't really surprising to me though. its a common reaction. when someone does something we don't do, alot of people have 2 natural reactions...criticize it or emulate it We all get our fluid through osmosis. Well unless we get an IV. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Why is everyone so worked up about this? |
2010-01-29 9:56 PM in reply to: #2643956 |
Veteran 593 Mandeville | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... i wasn't saying you didn't crush your ironman, it was just funny to read. kinda reminded me that quote from anchorman..."i don't know if you know this, but I'm kinda a big deal" i'm not in the 9 hour time zone so :bow: your new and you are taking some well deserved crap well i've got thick skin i don't mind the criticisms at all, they're kinda expected on a public forum where a difference of opinion is not only allowed, but encouraged i just refuse to let the "risk" of needles prevent me from using a method of hydration that has worked for me for almost 20 years. then again, i've been eating food that ive dropped off the ground, putting money in my mouth and running with scissors since i was a kid |
2010-01-29 10:04 PM in reply to: #2643975 |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: The medical tent in an Ironman... Johners - 2010-01-29 9:48 PM LSUfan4444 - 2010-01-29 8:06 PM I think all this training you are doing is overrated and you would be faster if you just took in IV's after races to rehydrate quicker didn't you read, he doesn't need hydration after crushing ironman races he gets his fluids through osmosis i guess Please go post on 'the other' site, and put up a synopsis of how and why you like IV's. no real need to. it isn't a big deal to me, but for some reason it fascinates this board it isn't really surprising to me though. its a common reaction. when someone does something we don't do, alot of people have 2 natural reactions...criticize it or emulate it We all get our fluid through osmosis. Well unless we get an IV. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Why is everyone so worked up about this? I guess I should have read the whole thread before I posted. I'm gonna have to agree. Not sure why this is blowing up. Maybe I hang around with too many military and medical people. Salt water in a bag just doesn't seem to register on my radar. Most of the athletes in the tour de france suck up an IV. Now, if you want to really get under my skin, lets talk about buckets in transition!!!!!!! haha |
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