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2010-12-21 7:09 AM
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Subject: RE: The Swim Breathing Thread - How to make it feel effortless
Coach:

Great advice! How can I arrange to work with you in person? You obviously know your stuff! thanks for posting!

2010-12-21 10:07 PM
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paleand scrawny - 2010-12-21 6:09 AM

Coach:

Great advice! How can I arrange to work with you in person? You obviously know your stuff! thanks for posting!



Scrawny, you're friend Katie & I are working on some swim dates in January. In the meatime, give the nod drill some time in the pool.
2010-12-22 6:12 AM
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2010-12-22 10:17 AM
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AdventureBear - 2010-12-03 2:04 AM Wow, that's gotta be a record...six minutes and the post has had 40 views already.


 just looking for pics   j/k


I agree what someone else mentioned if you could put a link to a video it would really help.   I was getting confused reading it.

The cues I use and to have one goggle out of the water and one in. which makes me lift my chin a touch to breath and most importantly keeps my head in the water.
2011-02-02 12:16 AM
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Gaarryy - 2010-12-22 9:17 AM

AdventureBear - 2010-12-03 2:04 AM Wow, that's gotta be a record...six minutes and the post has had 40 views already.


 just looking for pics   j/k


I agree what someone else mentioned if you could put a link to a video it would really help.   I was getting confused reading it.

The cues I use and to have one goggle out of the water and one in. which makes me lift my chin a touch to breath and most importantly keeps my head in the water.


I got some video of this drill when paleandscrawny brought his friends to my pool...with their permission I'll post. My description of one fellow's breathing stroke after working through these focuses was that his right sided breathing stroke was "sublime".

I'll try to get them up this week.

Also shamelessly bumping this thread for some people who have recently asked swim breathing questions.
2011-02-28 6:45 PM
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Bump.

Just to say - I still haven't found the discipline to actually do the drills. And I don't know that I've managed to translate it into actual time gains.

But I've been focussing a lot on relaxing through the shoulders and just 'laying my head on the pillow.'

I wouldn't exactly call it 'effortless,' but I finished my most struggle-free 1500m the other day. Jumped out of the pool feeling energised and relaxed where normally I'd finish breathless, sore and spluttering.

2011-03-01 9:03 PM
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Thanks for this.  I printed it out and took it to the pool today.  Honestly shaved 5" off my best on the first 100 after doing the drills.  Felt amazing.  No more brakes being applied on each breath.
2011-03-01 9:17 PM
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Thanks so much. I was practicing some drills on Saturday an isolated the problem to breathing. Now I know probably what was causing the problem and some strategies for fixing it.

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2011-03-02 4:33 AM
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There is no Tri - 2011-02-28 5:45 PM

Bump.

Just to say - I still haven't found the discipline to actually do the drills. And I don't know that I've managed to translate it into actual time gains.

But I've been focussing a lot on relaxing through the shoulders and just 'laying my head on the pillow.'

I wouldn't exactly call it 'effortless,' but I finished my most struggle-free 1500m the other day. Jumped out of the pool feeling energised and relaxed where normally I'd finish breathless, sore and spluttering.


"struggle free, energized and relaxed" is as good an outcome as any I've seen.

Congrats & keep on practicing.
2011-03-02 4:33 AM
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jmot - 2011-03-01 8:03 PM

Thanks for this.  I printed it out and took it to the pool today.  Honestly shaved 5" off my best on the first 100 after doing the drills.  Felt amazing.  No more brakes being applied on each breath.


I love it. THansk for the feedback
2011-03-02 4:34 AM
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drsues - 2011-03-01 8:17 PM

Thanks so much. I was practicing some drills on Saturday an isolated the problem to breathing. Now I know probably what was causing the problem and some strategies for fixing it.

Sue


Let us know how it goes...sounds like you are on the right track.


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Bump for the recent rash of swim breathing questions. Hope it helps a few more peopel this season...
2013-02-06 8:07 AM
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GREAT info, thanks for taking time to post! I am going to work on your tips!
2013-02-06 8:19 AM
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This is a great thread, Suzanne. Any chance you could turn it into a BT article?

I advocate practicing "breathing meditation" (just another form of breathing drills) and I really think what you've outlined here is helpful for folks not just in swim training, but to ease into OWS for newer swimmers. Doing focused breathing the first bit of an OWS during races can also really calm the anxiety that can set it (sometimes even for seasoned swimmers) and this is good stuff to do, especially doing it in practice so you're already used to it.

Having a good swim start can make an enormous difference for the rest of the race, and while it may SEEM like you're going slower by taking a few yards at the beginning to BREATHE, the smoothness and efficiency far more than makes up for any deficit, which would certainly be worse if you were thrashing around and trying to get a hold of yourself with your HR skyrocketing.

2013-05-25 11:32 PM
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Occasional thread bump. Hope this helps some newcomers to the forum!!

2013-05-25 11:38 PM
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Thanks swimming is my weakness sport and the breathing is the problem. I'll read this a couple more times and put it into practice


2013-05-30 7:39 PM
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I have tried some of this this week and found it to be really helpful.

At times I really get the not lifting my head move. I have been able to breathe by just turning my head and sometimes I don't even have my whole mouth out of the water.

Thank you for the post!
2013-05-31 7:51 AM
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Me too. I even try to keep one side of the goggles in the water when I breathe.
2013-06-01 11:27 AM
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Subject: RE: The Swim Breathing Thread - How to make it feel effortless
Originally posted by Chunga

I have tried some of this this week and found it to be really helpful.

At times I really get the not lifting my head move. I have been able to breathe by just turning my head and sometimes I don't even have my whole mouth out of the water.

Thank you for the post!



Love it...it's a great feeling to just sneak that water over the surface and know that you're OK. This trnaslates great to racing when you may get water splashed or pushed into your face as you breath...having water "in your face" doesn't always preclude breathing .
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