First Crit of the Season
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2011-05-31 3:42 PM |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: First Crit of the Season For me tonight, if the weather holds out. Getting started in them MUCH earlier than years past. Looking forward to it. CAN'T WAIT! Tuesday night series. Anyone in the Chicago land area should come down south to check it out. It is in Matteson. I know some of you others have already been racing. How have yours been? |
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2011-05-31 9:24 PM in reply to: #3526108 |
Master 1603 Connecticut | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season Awesome! I hope you had a blast and gave 'em 'ell out there! |
2011-06-01 6:39 AM in reply to: #3526108 |
Champion 16151 Checkin' out the podium girls | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season Hope you raced well. You missed a night at Wrigley with me! |
2011-06-01 9:47 AM in reply to: #3526108 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season As always, the first crit of the season for me is the worst. I always get dropped. It takes me that first time to make the mental switch from sustained pain ala Time Trial to the lung and leg burning sprint, then recovery, lung and leg burning sprint, then recovery that is crits. The Tuesday night series normally has 3 races, time permiting. And they split between A's and B's. Well, I had to ride over this time (7 miles) and since it was my first night out, took me a bit longer to register, etc, so I missed the first race (15 laps on a 1k track) so I just continued to ride on the outside. The second race is normally the long one. 25 laps. But because there weren't that many riders, they combined the groups. Oh god, this is going to hurt. And hurt it did. I was able to hang on for the first 10 laps, but then got dropped like a bad habit. My volume this year has been wikedly low and I'm paying for it now. BUT, they came back around and I hung on again for another 3-4 laps before I got spat out the back again. Found a small, slower group and we all finished with a sprint at the end. We came back around and sure as shooting, we had all of about 5 minutes rest and we were off again on another 20 lap race. I couldn't hang. It was hot. I had already burned through my 2 water bottles and the bike started to ghost shift again (running issue for the past 2-3 weeks). So I pulled over to the side, sat with Beth for a bit. Picked up my Giro Advantage2 TT helmet and we took off. Ideally I'll be hitting there once every 2 weeks. It hurt so good. I really do love road and crit racing. I may not be terribly good at it, but I love it. |
2011-06-01 9:56 PM in reply to: #3526108 |
Davenport, IA | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season Awesome Crowny! You should come out to race weekend in Iowa sometime. Memorial Day weekend has races from Friday through Monday. A road race and 3 Crits. Burlington, Muscatine, QC. At the QC Crit's 1-2-Pro race the winner lapped the field. It was ridiculous. |
2011-06-02 8:48 AM in reply to: #3528394 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season Sprint_DA - 2011-06-01 9:56 PM Awesome Crowny! You should come out to race weekend in Iowa sometime. Memorial Day weekend has races from Friday through Monday. A road race and 3 Crits. Burlington, Muscatine, QC. At the QC Crit's 1-2-Pro race the winner lapped the field. It was ridiculous. I might try that next year. Actually, a young man from the South Chicago Wheelmen (the club I'm in) may have won or at least placed fairly high. He is being scouted by a pro team supposedly. Last name is Fury. I think. Young. All of about 18. Hung with the Flying V pro's in a 1,2,3 crit last summer. Wicked fast. |
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2011-06-02 9:36 PM in reply to: #3526108 |
Veteran 250 | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season I'm addicted as well, crits and RR get the adrenaline flowing more quickly than triathlons. I like the tactical and team aspects of being a roadie as well. I raced Tuesday night here in STL in our weekly series. I'm in the "B" race, which is Cat 4 and up. Somehow I managed the win, even with a 4 hour hill ride on Monday. A teammate gave me an AWESOME pull before the final turn, and when he started slowing down I dug deep and was gone. Overall, my first season has been going pretty well! All the races I peaked for I did well at, and I've gotten 2 first place finishes, 2 second place finishes, and one 2nd overall at an omnium. Seems a lot of you folks are in the upper midwest. Are any of you going to Tour of America's Dairyland? |
2011-06-03 6:00 AM in reply to: #3527275 |
Master 1603 Connecticut | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season crowny2 - 2011-06-01 10:47 AM The second race is normally the long one. 25 laps. But because there weren't that many riders, they combined the groups. Oh god, this is going to hurt. And hurt it did. I was able to hang on for the first 10 laps, but then got dropped like a bad habit. My volume this year has been wikedly low and I'm paying for it now. BUT, they came back around and I hung on again for another 3-4 laps before I got spat out the back again. Found a small, slower group and we all finished with a sprint at the end. ...
That is rough getting combined with the A racers in your first crit of the year. Good job hanging in and getting the experience. There is definitely a skill component. I need to do fast crits at least once a month or so to keep my head in the game. If I don't do them for a while, it takes me a few laps to get back to being efficient. |
2011-06-06 9:13 AM in reply to: #3530281 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season dredwards - 2011-06-03 6:00 AM crowny2 - 2011-06-01 10:47 AM The second race is normally the long one. 25 laps. But because there weren't that many riders, they combined the groups. Oh god, this is going to hurt. And hurt it did. I was able to hang on for the first 10 laps, but then got dropped like a bad habit. My volume this year has been wikedly low and I'm paying for it now. BUT, they came back around and I hung on again for another 3-4 laps before I got spat out the back again. Found a small, slower group and we all finished with a sprint at the end. ...
That is rough getting combined with the A racers in your first crit of the year. Good job hanging in and getting the experience. There is definitely a skill component. I need to do fast crits at least once a month or so to keep my head in the game. If I don't do them for a while, it takes me a few laps to get back to being efficient. Heh. You know, the thing is, I have no fear hanging inside the pack and taking corners. I never have. Don't know why. Guess that is kind of a good thing. I have slightly above average handling skills in the pack for someone with my lack of experience. I just don' t have the stamina yet. But that will change. The other thing is I looked at my HR and pace for that race and it shows me that I should really be pushing it a bit harder on my TT's for triathlons. I'll get to try that out this weekend in my next race. |
2011-06-06 9:17 PM in reply to: #3526108 |
Master 1603 Connecticut | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season Sure. You could already be at the limit of what you can learn. On the other hand, if you stay open to the possibility, you might find that there are still changes you can make that can lead to big improvements in efficiency. I guess I've done over 150 races and I am still regularly finding ways to improve. |
2011-06-06 9:23 PM in reply to: #3536084 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season dredwards - 2011-06-06 9:17 PM Sure. You could already be at the limit of what you can learn. On the other hand, if you stay open to the possibility, you might find that there are still changes you can make that can lead to big improvements in efficiency. I guess I've done over 150 races and I am still regularly finding ways to improve. Oh I know I have more to learn. You are right about the improvements in efficiency. And every crit is different. Whether due to the weather or due to who shows up. And so I have to respond differently every time. Even the pros learn from each race. |
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2011-06-07 8:16 AM in reply to: #3536098 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season crowny2 - 2011-06-06 10:23 PM dredwards - 2011-06-06 9:17 PM Sure. You could already be at the limit of what you can learn. On the other hand, if you stay open to the possibility, you might find that there are still changes you can make that can lead to big improvements in efficiency. I guess I've done over 150 races and I am still regularly finding ways to improve. Oh I know I have more to learn. You are right about the improvements in efficiency. And every crit is different. Whether due to the weather or due to who shows up. And so I have to respond differently every time. Even the pros learn from each race. I keep waiting to have that perfect race where I'm in the right spot at the right time and haven't done too much work prior. |
2011-06-07 8:39 AM in reply to: #3536543 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season dalessit - 2011-06-07 8:16 AM crowny2 - 2011-06-06 10:23 PM dredwards - 2011-06-06 9:17 PM Sure. You could already be at the limit of what you can learn. On the other hand, if you stay open to the possibility, you might find that there are still changes you can make that can lead to big improvements in efficiency. I guess I've done over 150 races and I am still regularly finding ways to improve. Oh I know I have more to learn. You are right about the improvements in efficiency. And every crit is different. Whether due to the weather or due to who shows up. And so I have to respond differently every time. Even the pros learn from each race. I keep waiting to have that perfect race where I'm in the right spot at the right time and haven't done too much work prior. I guess the more you race, the more opportunity you have to have that perfect race. |
2011-06-07 5:59 PM in reply to: #3526108 |
Veteran 663 Central Point | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season crowny2 - 2011-05-31 1:42 PM For me tonight, if the weather holds out. Getting started in them MUCH earlier than years past. Looking forward to it. CAN'T WAIT! Tuesday night series. Anyone in the Chicago land area should come down south to check it out. It is in Matteson. I know some of you others have already been racing. How have yours been? Congratulations on the race. There is a weekly Thursday night race in the here that I've been wanting to go watch and see what its all about. How does a beginner get involved? It looks like a lot of fun. sorry for the hijack. |
2011-06-07 9:45 PM in reply to: #3537816 |
Master 1603 Connecticut | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season ckallpoints - 2011-06-07 6:59 PM Congratulations on the race. There is a weekly Thursday night race in the here that I've been wanting to go watch and see what its all about. How does a beginner get involved? It looks like a lot of fun. sorry for the hijack.
Craig, you can race on a one-day license, but it's worth getting an annual license right away if you plan to do more than a couple of races. Once you have a license, you can just sign up and race. You can order licenses online through www.usacycling.org To be safe, you should have experience in fast group riding beforehand. Ideally, you affiliate with a club and have some experience riding with racers who can give you some tips and drills. Short of a good club network like that, clinics can also be valuable. I'd also advise going out and watching the race. See if you can find some of the folks involved in putting it together (usually they are run by teams) and introduce yourself. You might find that they are quite happy to point you in the right direction. |
2011-06-07 9:50 PM in reply to: #3536611 |
Master 1603 Connecticut | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season crowny2 - 2011-06-07 9:39 AM dalessit - 2011-06-07 8:16 AM I keep waiting to have that perfect race where I'm in the right spot at the right time and haven't done too much work prior. I guess the more you race, the more opportunity you have to have that perfect race.
... or the more skilled you become at creating that situation for yourself. It doesn't usually happen by chance. |
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2011-06-07 11:19 PM in reply to: #3538112 |
Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season Craig, Another idea is to check out local bike shops for group rides in your area. Definitely want to get some pack experience before racing. |
2011-06-08 8:13 AM in reply to: #3538116 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season dredwards - 2011-06-07 10:50 PM crowny2 - 2011-06-07 9:39 AM dalessit - 2011-06-07 8:16 AM I keep waiting to have that perfect race where I'm in the right spot at the right time and haven't done too much work prior. I guess the more you race, the more opportunity you have to have that perfect race. ... or the more skilled you become at creating that situation for yourself. It doesn't usually happen by chance. Very true, patience in the group is tough, no one wants to do the work, but everyone wants to win. LOL my goal for tonights training crit is to only be on the front inside the last 200M : ) I'm also finding out which types of courses I like and don't like. Our training crit (actually circuit) has a steep little hill inside the last 500M which I'm not a fan of, it takes the energy out of you because everyone sprints up it, then sprints for the line. Trick is to find a wheel moving forward through the group so I don't have to sprint until the top of the hill, then open it up. Funny thing is I am coming up on 10 races here real soon but in the DC area Cat 5 races are 8am and Cat 4 are 4pm. I much prefer the 8am starts, race is over and I can get stuff done with family. With a 4:00 race I'll have worked my butt off around the house all day then have to make it to the race. |
2011-06-08 9:36 AM in reply to: #3538112 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season dredwards - 2011-06-07 9:45 PM ckallpoints - 2011-06-07 6:59 PM Congratulations on the race. There is a weekly Thursday night race in the here that I've been wanting to go watch and see what its all about. How does a beginner get involved? It looks like a lot of fun. sorry for the hijack.
Craig, you can race on a one-day license, but it's worth getting an annual license right away if you plan to do more than a couple of races. Once you have a license, you can just sign up and race. You can order licenses online through www.usacycling.org To be safe, you should have experience in fast group riding beforehand. Ideally, you affiliate with a club and have some experience riding with racers who can give you some tips and drills. Short of a good club network like that, clinics can also be valuable. I'd also advise going out and watching the race. See if you can find some of the folks involved in putting it together (usually they are run by teams) and introduce yourself. You might find that they are quite happy to point you in the right direction. All great points! I would say if you are brand new to the bike, it is not something you might want to jump in with both feet. Get your feet wet on a group ride if you can. Maybe hitting up one of the clubs you see at the race to see if they have a weekly ride. Preferably a no drop one to begin with. That way you get used to riding in a pack, which, more than anything, is the first thing to learn. I was lucky. I met one of the guys on my club while training on my own one weekend a few years ago. He and I struck up a friendship and he invited me out on a group ride. From there I went out to watch a crit or two just to see what they were like. I was hooked. Went to one of the Tuesday night races and found out that I'm actually pretty good at bike handling and had a blast. The rest, as they say, is history. |
2011-06-08 9:37 AM in reply to: #3538116 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season dredwards - 2011-06-07 9:50 PM crowny2 - 2011-06-07 9:39 AM dalessit - 2011-06-07 8:16 AM I keep waiting to have that perfect race where I'm in the right spot at the right time and haven't done too much work prior. I guess the more you race, the more opportunity you have to have that perfect race.
... or the more skilled you become at creating that situation for yourself. It doesn't usually happen by chance. Winner, winner chicken dinner. |
2011-06-08 11:32 AM in reply to: #3526108 |
Veteran 663 Central Point | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season Thanks for the replys guys. I do most of my riding by myself but have been considering joining the local cycle club. One of the local shops has a Saturday group I've been thinking about going with as well. I think I'll start with that and get out to watch the races in a week or two. I have an Oly on the 26th so maybe I'll go the Thursday before since I should be taking it easy that day anyway. Thanks Again. |
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2011-06-08 1:38 PM in reply to: #3539040 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: First Crit of the Season ckallpoints - 2011-06-08 11:32 AM Thanks for the replys guys. I do most of my riding by myself but have been considering joining the local cycle club. One of the local shops has a Saturday group I've been thinking about going with as well. I think I'll start with that and get out to watch the races in a week or two. I have an Oly on the 26th so maybe I'll go the Thursday before since I should be taking it easy that day anyway. Thanks Again. Good luck and have fun. Make certain you report back your experience. |