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Hillary or Condi in '08
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2006-01-20 5:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Hillary or Condi in '08

cjbowman - 2006-01-20 5:37 PM I'll vote for whichever one enters and wins the next Ultimate Fighter... On second thought, neither would get my vote, but I'd still like to see them mix it up in the octagon!

Chuck Liddell for President



2006-01-20 7:26 PM
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ASA22 - 2006-01-20 3:20 PM  I also personally believe that the Democratic party is a party in major disarray.

Doesn't matter. After the mess W has made, the Dems could probably run a Pat Robertson/David Duke ticket and win. 

2006-01-20 9:12 PM
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Subject: RE: Hillary or Condi in '08
actually i would have liked to see powell run in 2000. i would have voted for the guy. that and i think it would haven been a sad for the dems, when the republicans have an afican-american (or whatever the PC term is) running in the primaries.
2006-01-22 10:59 AM
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Subject: RE: Hillary or Condi in '08
Stake - 2006-01-20 5:03 PM

Only use for cows requiring high-fat, foul mouthed, high-bitchiness diet"


Why bring Dick Cheney into this?
2006-01-22 12:00 PM
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coredump - 2006-01-20 3:00 PM

I'm registered as a Dem, but I'd jump fence in a heartbeat if McCain ran.

He's one of the few politicians that I respect and that I feel stands for what he believes in, not for what the polls tell him is popular.

I'm a fan of neither Condi or Hillary.  Both play the political "game" too much and seem guided by opportunistic attacks and/or polls.

-Chris


Holy cr$p, I agree with Coredump. What next, cats and dogs sleeping together, rivers of blood?
2006-01-22 6:55 PM
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I predict Hilary will win in '08, but then be caught in the White House with Welshy in a compromising situation.  She will squeeze her way out of it by proclaiming that "I did not have sexual relations with that man!"   However, the stains on Welshy's blue blazer will prove to be very damaging evidence.  Thomas will end up writing a book exposing the whole scenario, but the rigors of touring and pushing his product will severely cramp his triathlon plans.

Film at 11:00



2006-01-22 7:39 PM
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And years after the fact, the blazer stains will be tested in a lab and turn out to simply be drippings from a Freebird's burrito. 

-Chris
2006-01-23 9:32 AM
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max - 2006-01-22 5:55 PM

I predict Hilary will win in '08, but then be caught in the White House with Welshy in a compromising situation.  She will squeeze her way out of it by proclaiming that "I did not have sexual relations with that man!"   However, the stains on Welshy's blue blazer will prove to be very damaging evidence.  Thomas will end up writing a book exposing the whole scenario, but the rigors of touring and pushing his product will severely cramp his triathlon plans.

Film at 11:00

Hilary, after getting Wahoo'd, begins to stalk Welshy, using the FBI and NSA to feed her need. It becomes larger and more explosive than Iran Contra - in a moment of innatention, someone leaves the backdoor to the white house open and Jim sneaks in and accesses all of Hilary's e-mail accounts with the passwoed "Welshy," sending out massive doccumentation from Hilary's computer instructing a national "no *** left behind" program instructing all to wear spandex as an order of national security. Soon, not to be wearing spandex is to be considered unpatriotic.

2006-01-23 9:21 PM
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I bet it's been a LONG time since she's been "wahoo'd" 

2006-01-24 7:02 AM
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This is going to come off as a stupid male comment, but I think it's true.  I would think that whichever party got to the point of having a woman as the front runner (whether actually nominated or not) the other party would back off promoting their own since:

1.  It seems likely that the first woman to get that close to the presidency will break new ground but not get over the hump.  Better to be the second woman running in the next election or two after the public has been more exposed to the concept.

2.  Slack jawed heavy brow cavemen who will simply not vote for a woman will vote for whatever man the oppposing party puts out there.  A woman front runner in one party would galvanize the opposition against her, and I would think this would over-ride party affiliation.

I don't agree with the above lines of thinking, but I think they are a sad but true commentary on the state of things.  I think Hillary is closer to running than Rice.  I think Rice would be the Republican's answer if Obama ran but Obama is not ready yet.  I think McCain's already won the election, if he wants to run.  Isn't it interesting that nobody talks about the fact that Rice is black, just that she's a woman?  Do you think that gender prejudices run deeper than racial ones, or does it have to do more with the individual person being considered?

2006-01-24 7:14 AM
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hangloose - 2006-01-24 8:02 AM

I don't agree with the above lines of thinking, but I think they are a sad but true commentary on the state of things. I think Hillary is closer to running than Rice. I think Rice would be the Republican's answer if Obama ran but Obama is not ready yet. I think McCain's already won the election, if he wants to run. Isn't it interesting that nobody talks about the fact that Rice is black, just that she's a woman? Do you think that gender prejudices run deeper than racial ones, or does it have to do more with the individual person being considered?

 

I think that's pretty much spot-on. McCain is interesting. I think he's done too much to alienate himself form the Republican mainstream to get his party's nomination. But he's their only chance. On the other hand, his stance on social issues makes him a no-go if he were to switch parties. I think he would find a whole heck of a lot of success if he ran as an independant.

Obama is too green (as in too inexperienced, not as in too environmental), but he *will* the next POTUS, following whoever is elected in '08. I actualy like Hil, but she isn't electable IMO. Rice has already said she won't run (doesn't mean she won't, though). But again, even if she does, she's not McCain, and McCain is the only Republican that has a chance to win.

Love or hate Michael Moore, but he wrote very serisously in "Dude, Where's My Country" that Oprah should run, and it's not the craziest idea I've ever heard. 

 



2006-01-24 8:28 AM
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I agree, Oprah should run.  It would be good for her, excersize is good for everyone.

Oh, wait.  You meant run as in run for office?  For President?  Yeah and the Terminator could be, oh well, wait.  Nevermind. 

<<shuffling off into the distance mumbling about the ridiculousness of it all>>

2006-01-24 8:39 AM
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Obama was on Meet the Press this past Sunday and stated unequivocally that he would serve his full Senate term. He's going to make a great POTUS some day. I can't wait to vote for him!

McCain doesn't have the killer instinct, the go-for-the-jugular, no-holds-barred, take-no-prisoner, no-such-thing-as-a-sucker-punch mentality that folks like Bush have, that's why he'll never win an election. He's not willing to demean his character for the Presidency. It would be nice to have an opportunity to vote for him, nonetheless.

2006-01-25 12:37 PM
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hangloose - 2006-01-24 7:02 AM

A woman front runner in one party would galvanize the opposition against her


Isn't it interesting that nobody talks about the fact that Rice is black, just that she's a woman? 


although, women would vote in droves for her, look at 1992 "the year of the woman."

isnt it interesting that Rice is the highest appointed women in the US history? but, Bush is evil so no love on *that* one.
2006-01-25 1:20 PM
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tyrant - 2006-01-25 12:37 PM  although, women would vote in droves for her,

Don't be so sure about that.  I think that she is a very divisive person among women.  I know more than a few women who would only vote for her if the Republican alternative were more repugnant.  McCain would cut deeply into Hillary's female support, I believe.

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