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2006-06-03 2:24 PM
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madkat - 2006-06-03 11:53 AM

I see a lot of riders (probably commuters) around town doing this:  riding the wrong way in a bike lane, in dark clothing at dusk, sans helmet.  Argggg!

Yeah...I almost hit that guy last night actually only it was a four lane highway not a road.  Thank God I saw him (just barely in time). He SURE wasn't watching out for me....like it's real hard to see a friggin' minivan coming at your face!

Rant over.



Edited by CindyK 2006-06-03 2:25 PM


2006-06-03 5:10 PM
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Comet - 2006-06-01 6:26 PM

People can ride motorcycles without helmets here in TX too. I get angry when I see this. Its so stupid. Especially after seeing a motorcycle accident last year, thankfully the guy had on a helmet.

funny side note...
saw photos of a single vehicle MC wreck where the guy was in full leathers and a custom painted top end helmet. the helmet was sitting upright on the asphalt as if it had been removed with the face screen up... and the guy's face was peering out at the camera. Yup head clean off and still in the helmet. he was apparently hauling *** and hit a guardrail with his back about shoulder height.

totally freaky

2006-06-05 1:18 PM
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Bluejack - 2006-06-02 6:39 AM As a former trauma surgery resident and now general surgeon...

LIAR! We all know you're go-go dancer!




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2006-06-05 3:17 PM
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CubeFarmGopher - 2006-06-02 6:01 AM

Anyone have decent guidelines as to when a helmet should be replaced?

When in doubt, call up the manufacturer and see if they will do an evaluation.  I know for many motorcycle helmets you can send crashed helmets to the manufacturer for a free evaluation.  All you have to do is pay shipping.  The same may be true for bicycle helmets.

For motorcycle helmets, scratches on the outside don't necessarily mean it needs to be replaced.  I'm a motorcycle roadracer and have had several crashes in my racing career, and once my helmet was scratched on the outside after a minor lowside.  I sent it to Arai and they sent it back with the evaluation form and the "ok" that it was still safe to use.  So I didn't need to spend another $400 right then and there.  But I do replace my racing helmets every 5 years due to the materials inside breaking down over time.

2006-06-05 4:00 PM
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Like with most things, I just do what I think is right and let other people go their own way and try (I said try) to keep the harsh judgements to a minimum.  It's not about them, it's about me and trying to eliminate as much negativity from my life as possible. BUT, today I am in my truck on the way to the gym on my lunch hour and I see this guy off to my right, on a bike, in with the traffic getting ready to make a left hand turn in front of me.

First of all, this is the single busiest street in my town. I know this town and I know every inch of this area, and I can say in all honesty, there is not one single reason to be on a bike at that intersection, no matter where you are going.  Especially at the lunch hour when traffic is insane. There are back ways and parking lots and a dozen different routes. He did not need to be there.

And he was not wearing a helmet.

So granted, I am very secure in the knowledge that if you get hit hard enough, a helmet simply is not going to save you, that's a given.

But all I could think of is......you, sir, are an idiot.

It just came out, I couldn't help myself.

I feel badly about it, but there it is.

2006-06-05 9:08 PM
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bootygirl - 2006-06-02 6:01 PM

it is funny to open a thread about something serious and it opens to the bottom post referencing go go dancers....

yeah - the parents not wearing helmets but the kids having to - that is one of those uphill do what I say not what I do things that just does not work....

But seriously - why miss out on an opertunity to accessorize! My bike helmet is pink paisley. My scooter helmet is chrome gold!

bootygirl - i like the way you think! hooray for accessorizing!



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2006-06-06 12:39 AM
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Bluejack - 2006-06-02 8:39 AM As a former trauma surgery resident and now general surgeon I have to say to everyone: WEAR YOUR FRIGGIN HELMET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some things are even worse than death folks. High cervical fractures! Permanent brain damage! Never having any feeling in your arms and legs ever again! People having to wipe your backside, suction your trach, empty your colostomy, debrid your decubitus ulcers because you can't sense the pressure on your body. It astounds me that people can be so foolish. Come on down to the spinal cord at my hospital and you'll start wearing your helmet while you sleep.

OK, I am now permanently on the helmet side.  I wear it just to make me feel like biking.  I have good insurance and really believe that life for my family would not really be that bad without me but life with any of the crap above is a completely different story.

2006-06-06 7:27 AM
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bikingbruise - 2006-06-05 10:39 PM

OK, I am now permanently on the helmet side. I wear it just to make me feel like biking. I have good insurance and really believe that life for my family would not really be that bad without me but life with any of the crap above is a completely different story.

how can you believe that life wouldn't be that bad if you were gone?  you are not just a financial ticket that can be replaced by insurance!!!!  a whole person is so much more (and better) than a wad of money...i'm SURE you family would have a whole different life if you were gone....

2006-06-06 12:02 PM
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On the subject matter, who takes their helmet off when riding up a hill?
2006-06-06 12:23 PM
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Bluejack - 2006-06-02 8:39 AM

As a former trauma surgery resident and now general surgeon I have to say to everyone:

WEAR YOUR FRIGGIN HELMET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some things are even worse than death folks. High cervical fractures! Permanent brain damage! Never having any feeling in your arms and legs ever again! People having to wipe your backside, suction your trach, empty your colostomy, debrid your decubitus ulcers because you can't sense the pressure on your body.

It astounds me that people can be so foolish. Come on down to the spinal cord at my hospital and you'll start wearing your helmet while you sleep.


I gotta say, I work at a University Hospital, and there is a new Surgeon who just moved here from Israel. He does not have a car yet, and bikes all over the place. He was telling me all about crazy drivers in Israel and how happy there is that there are loads of bike paths here. In fact, he feels so safe in spacious Canada that he does not wear a helmet! I would think a doctor would know best the kind of damage a bike vs car injury could cause. Bike path or not, you still have to bike a certain distance to find them... and you have to go through an intersection or two!
2006-06-06 12:26 PM
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Bluejack - 2006-06-05 11:18 AM
kimj81 - 2006-06-02 4:06 PM

Bluejack - 2006-06-02 6:39 AM As a former trauma surgery resident and now general surgeon...

LIAR! We all know you're go-go dancer!

Only in my spare time.

You mean you're only a surgeoun in your spare time, right?



2006-06-06 12:54 PM
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kimj81 - 2006-06-06 12:26 PM

Bluejack - 2006-06-05 11:18 AM
kimj81 - 2006-06-02 4:06 PM

Bluejack - 2006-06-02 6:39 AM As a former trauma surgery resident and now general surgeon...

LIAR! We all know you're go-go dancer!

Only in my spare time.

You mean you're only a surgeoun in your spare time, right?



Yup. I'm a triathlete in my main time. Go-go dancer is third. Ack. what an ugly image. Now I need to sandpaper my brain.
2006-06-06 12:56 PM
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I don't wear my helmet all the time.

If I'm just cruising around, on secondary streets or paths, I don't wear it. If I'm doing non-technical mountain bike riding, I don't wear it. But wherever it's technical, or where I'm exposed to car traffic, I wear it always.

2006-06-06 6:11 PM
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I always wear my helmet even though South Carolina does not have helmet laws for either bike or motorcycle. I use to live in Nova Scotia and at the time it was a law to wear a bicycle helmet at all times. If a police officer saw you without a helmet, they took your bike for x number of weeks. I think this is a good idea and more states need to implement the law. As for motorcycle helmets, you must be a complete moron if you do not wear one, and if I offend anyone I am not sorry. You can be the best driver in the world but that guy who doesn't see you pulling out of the side road is all that it takes. My father was a firefighter while we were in Nova Scotia and he use to tell me how they clean up most motorcycle accidents from people who did not wear a helmet...with a shovel...no joke.

On a side note, I just received my new bike helmet I ordered last week today and used it for the first time. It is great. Its a Louis Garneau I got on closeout marked down from 160 to 50...OH YEEEEAAAHHHHH!!!!!
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