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2012-09-20 11:04 AM
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Subject: RE: Scary phone call from school
Left Brain - 2012-09-20 7:02 AM

When I was a kid we would go pheasant and rabbit hunting some mornings before school......sometimes we'd  end up moving our shotguns from one truck to another on the school parking lot.  Nobody cared.  35 years doesn't seem like that long ago.

I know times have changed, but sometimes I think it's crazy just how much they have.

Tell me about it.  My friends and I played a senior prank that I look back NOW on with shock because of the changed climate.

It was finals week in 1987.  We snuck into the school, put ski masks on and pulled out uzi looking automatic squirt guns, went to our favorite teachers office, raided the exam and yelled something and proceeded to "shoot" everyone with water and ran down the hall to the next classroom.  Then made a grand getaway...

Sure, some startled looks, but then lots of laughs.

Could you IMAGINE the trouble someone would be in if they did that today?



2012-09-20 11:28 AM
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Subject: RE: Scary phone call from school
Kido - 2012-09-20 11:04 AM
Left Brain - 2012-09-20 7:02 AM

When I was a kid we would go pheasant and rabbit hunting some mornings before school......sometimes we'd  end up moving our shotguns from one truck to another on the school parking lot.  Nobody cared.  35 years doesn't seem like that long ago.

I know times have changed, but sometimes I think it's crazy just how much they have.

Tell me about it.  My friends and I played a senior prank that I look back NOW on with shock because of the changed climate.

It was finals week in 1987.  We snuck into the school, put ski masks on and pulled out uzi looking automatic squirt guns, went to our favorite teachers office, raided the exam and yelled something and proceeded to "shoot" everyone with water and ran down the hall to the next classroom.  Then made a grand getaway...

Sure, some startled looks, but then lots of laughs.

Could you IMAGINE the trouble someone would be in if they did that today?

Freshman H.S. year - circa Fall 1979/Spring 1980.  New teacher-in-training/student teacher for History class started and main teacher was going to stay out of the room for the day.  A friend had a squirt gun.  The bigger kid took the other kid "hostage" from the back of the room, acted out with a "crazed look" on his face, waving the water pistol around, and headed out the door with his "hostage" (who was laughing).  BIG hysterical laughter from the kids.
Poor student teacher was shocked, froze up at the front of the room and didn't know what to do or say.  The main teacher (a Korean War vet) met the two kids just outside the door before they enterend into the hallway.  The main teacher grabbed the arm of the bigger kid (the one hand holding the water pistol) and brought the arm down on his knee a couple of times hard (a self-defense move) to make the kid drop the water pistol.

The main teacher had a very serious discussion with us later.  It wasn't pretty.  The two kids involved in the "incident" had a couple of days or so of detention.

2012-09-20 11:31 AM
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Subject: RE: Scary phone call from school
trinnas - 2012-09-20 9:53 AM

If she was being followed and felt threatened enough to call 911, as was stated in the article, I would think she would be more in the mindset of get to a well populated area and call the police.  It is what women are told to do in pretty much every self-defense class there is.  What safer place to be than a school or a police station?

If she felt so threatened, why bring the threat to the school?  On the way she had to pass at least one grocery store, numerous fast food restaraunts, a gas station.  Any of those would have been better choices than going to 900 children.

2012-09-20 11:46 AM
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This would've been a good opportunity for her to shoot the person who was following her. Too bad she missed such a prime opportunity. She could've been a hero!
2012-09-20 11:48 AM
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Really sad that kids have to deal with this situation.
2012-09-20 11:53 AM
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Subject: RE: Scary phone call from school
tricrazy - 2012-09-20 12:31 PM
trinnas - 2012-09-20 9:53 AM

If she was being followed and felt threatened enough to call 911, as was stated in the article, I would think she would be more in the mindset of get to a well populated area and call the police.  It is what women are told to do in pretty much every self-defense class there is.  What safer place to be than a school or a police station?

If she felt so threatened, why bring the threat to the school?  On the way she had to pass at least one grocery store, numerous fast food restaraunts, a gas station.  Any of those would have been better choices than going to 900 children.

Maybe she did and maybe not I do not know but:

The adults at a school are arguable going to be more vigilant thant those at a grocery store in the middle of the day.

Many schools have police either on campus or associated with them near by.

She felt threatened, School is psychologically a Safe place a grocery store or McDs not so much.

I doublt she though she would be "bringing a threat" to 900 children rather she was going to a safe place with a lot of vigilant adults.  Just because she is being followed does not mean there is any threat to the children.

It may not have been the best choice she could have made but I doubt there was any real risk to any of the children.

I try not to freak about about things till I find out what is going on and being raised with guns I don't tend to give in to hysteria over them.  Then again I also know how to lose a tail.

 



2012-09-20 12:52 PM
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Subject: RE: Scary phone call from school
trinnas - 2012-09-20 11:53 AM
tricrazy - 2012-09-20 12:31 PM
trinnas - 2012-09-20 9:53 AM

If she was being followed and felt threatened enough to call 911, as was stated in the article, I would think she would be more in the mindset of get to a well populated area and call the police.  It is what women are told to do in pretty much every self-defense class there is.  What safer place to be than a school or a police station?

If she felt so threatened, why bring the threat to the school?  On the way she had to pass at least one grocery store, numerous fast food restaraunts, a gas station.  Any of those would have been better choices than going to 900 children.

Maybe she did and maybe not I do not know but:

The adults at a school are arguable going to be more vigilant thant those at a grocery store in the middle of the day.

Many schools have police either on campus or associated with them near by.

She felt threatened, School is psychologically a Safe place a grocery store or McDs not so much.

I doublt she though she would be "bringing a threat" to 900 children rather she was going to a safe place with a lot of vigilant adults.  Just because she is being followed does not mean there is any threat to the children.

It may not have been the best choice she could have made but I doubt there was any real risk to any of the children.

I try not to freak about about things till I find out what is going on and being raised with guns I don't tend to give in to hysteria over them.  Then again I also know how to lose a tail.

 

You've obviously never had a GPS unit slapped on your bumper. Laughing

2012-09-20 12:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Scary phone call from school
Left Brain - 2012-09-20 1:52 PM
trinnas - 2012-09-20 11:53 AM
tricrazy - 2012-09-20 12:31 PM
trinnas - 2012-09-20 9:53 AM

If she was being followed and felt threatened enough to call 911, as was stated in the article, I would think she would be more in the mindset of get to a well populated area and call the police.  It is what women are told to do in pretty much every self-defense class there is.  What safer place to be than a school or a police station?

If she felt so threatened, why bring the threat to the school?  On the way she had to pass at least one grocery store, numerous fast food restaraunts, a gas station.  Any of those would have been better choices than going to 900 children.

Maybe she did and maybe not I do not know but:

The adults at a school are arguable going to be more vigilant thant those at a grocery store in the middle of the day.

Many schools have police either on campus or associated with them near by.

She felt threatened, School is psychologically a Safe place a grocery store or McDs not so much.

I doublt she though she would be "bringing a threat" to 900 children rather she was going to a safe place with a lot of vigilant adults.  Just because she is being followed does not mean there is any threat to the children.

It may not have been the best choice she could have made but I doubt there was any real risk to any of the children.

I try not to freak about about things till I find out what is going on and being raised with guns I don't tend to give in to hysteria over them.  Then again I also know how to lose a tail.

 

You've obviously never had a GPS unit slapped on your bumper. Laughing

The only one allowed to slap my bumper with anything is my husband! 

2012-09-20 10:44 PM
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In the Uk where I'm from and here in Australia it is not permitted to carry a gun, concealed or open - in public!

I think for hunting purposes but all guns must be kept in a locked cabinet and licensed and registered with the police...clearly we do have our share of 'nutters' with unlicensed firearms...

Some police are armed - eg at airports.

2012-09-23 7:43 PM
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tricrazy - 2012-09-20 11:31 AM
trinnas - 2012-09-20 9:53 AM

If she was being followed and felt threatened enough to call 911, as was stated in the article, I would think she would be more in the mindset of get to a well populated area and call the police.  It is what women are told to do in pretty much every self-defense class there is.  What safer place to be than a school or a police station?

If she felt so threatened, why bring the threat to the school?  On the way she had to pass at least one grocery store, numerous fast food restaraunts, a gas station.  Any of those would have been better choices than going to 900 children.

If you are not practiced at functioning in highly stressful situations, you get tunnel vision. I'm not talking about "omg, I'm going to miss my flight," or even "i'm going through a divorce." Yes that is highly stressful, and I'm not discounting just how hard it really is. The stress I AM talking about, though, is "this guy is going to die if I don't do something," or "someone is following me and I am going to die if they catch me." It is different, and unless you do that level of stress on a regular basis, you don't teach your body and mind to function in that kind of situation. I doubt she had full comprehension of the entire fallout of her actions, but she was seeking safety and focused on something she knew. I also highly doubt we have the whole story.

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