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2012-11-15 6:27 AM

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Subject: BEGINNER, helpppppp.

I want to begin training for a triathlon, but I do not know where to start? or what programs would be good to start. I guess for my first triathlon I would want to train for a 1.5/40/10km. I'm 20 and pretty fit and my biggest "fear" is swimming and cycling. I've ran track and played soccer all my life and now that I have given those up I still run races whenever there are some in whatever city I might be in. I always fare well since I am actually a pretty well trained runner.

-Lawrence Stokes



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2012-11-15 6:37 AM
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Hi Lawrence,

First of all, Welcome! I'm sure others will have some better plans, but when I first started on this community (just over a year ago) I used the plans that BT has on their site. They are located at the top of the webpage under "programs"  http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/trainingplans-list.asp?l=0 

They have free plans that can give you a great frame work to start your training for your first tri. My suggestions are to make sure you give a little extra attention to the swim as you have some "fear" towards it. Getting into the pool or open water will greatly help your confidence.

Cheers and welcome!

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2012-11-15 6:54 AM
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Welcome! You will get good advice here so stick around.

In order for the more experienced folks to help you out, it would be good to give some indication of your current ability levels relative to swim and bike.

How fast can you swim 100 yds?  Can you swim 500 yds, and if so, what kind of average per 100yds can you maintain?

Have you done any road cycling in the past?  group rides?  what's the longest you've ridden in one session?

Info like this will enable the best advice to be given to get you going in the right direction.

2012-11-15 6:59 AM
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I can swim 100m in about 1:10 in a 25m pool. Maybe 3/400m at that pace. And as far as biking I've always just ridden for distance, 20/30 mile rides nothing too serious.
2012-11-15 7:00 AM
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The other thing to keep in mind is don't over think it.  Weak at swimming and biking... well, just start doing them a couple times a week.  As you do this, you will learn a lot about your limits, and also what kind of training plan will fit your abilities / schedule.  You can then ease into a more structured training schedule with specific goals.
2012-11-15 7:02 AM
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halfblackjesus - 2012-11-15 7:59 PM I can swim 100m in about 1:10 in a 25m pool. Maybe 3/400m at that pace. And as far as biking I've always just ridden for distance, 20/30 mile rides nothing too serious.

100m in 1:10... impressive... I'd kill for that kinda time!  You should be fine, but you will obviously need to work a little on your swimming endurance, as you are talking about a 1500 meter swim for an Olympic race.



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halfblackjesus - 2012-11-15 6:59 AM I can swim 100m in about 1:10 in a 25m pool. Maybe 3/400m at that pace. And as far as biking I've always just ridden for distance, 20/30 mile rides nothing too serious.

 

If you can swim 1:10/100M then you don't need any advice on swimming.

 

Just follow one of the free plans on here for the Oly distance and you will be fine. At your age with that kind of swim speed you will be in good shape for a race by this Spring.

2012-11-15 7:07 AM
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On the training plans, do the numbers mean minutes? And if so minutes of hard/easy and how long? And at the end of each month what does the NOTES section imply?
2012-11-15 7:10 AM
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Sure I guess if I were to just say: "hey let's race 100m in the pool" then yea I'd be somewhat confident but over distance? That's something else. In track it was so much harder for the sprinters to do well in distance events as opposed to us milers 5kers sprinting And that is why I want more information as to how to swim for distance (and speed of course)
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halfblackjesus - 2012-11-15 7:07 AM On the training plans, do the numbers mean minutes? And if so minutes of hard/easy and how long? And at the end of each month what does the NOTES section imply?

The plans usualy have a key or explanation of these terms.

2012-11-15 9:46 AM
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halfblackjesus - 2012-11-15 6:59 AM I can swim 100m in about 1:10 in a 25m pool. Maybe 3/400m at that pace. And as far as biking I've always just ridden for distance, 20/30 mile rides nothing too serious.

 

If you can swim 1:10/100M then you don't need any advice on swimming.

 

Just follow one of the free plans on here for the Oly distance and you will be fine. At your age with that kind of swim speed you will be in good shape for a race by this Spring.

Thats pretty wicked fast.. not to be a jerk but, are you sure your numbers are right? 



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Welcome--I hope you learn as much here and enjoy it here as much as I do.  Good luck.
2012-11-15 10:57 AM
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Welcome.  I had good luck with the 16 wk couch to oly plan a couple of years ago.  Stick to the plans as best you can but no need to get to retentive unless you're planning on getting on the podium your first tri.

Enjoy the journey.

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So let me get this straight:

-You are a well-trained runner.

-Your weakness is swimming in which you are estimating top 1% times, and Biking in which 20-30 miles is nothing serious.

-You are looking for help.

In order to have the achievements that you have, you would have to do each sport multiple times a week.  In which case, do you really need a training program? It sounds like you already have a pretty intense program going.

It sounds more like the help you need is the theoretical how-to's, which you won't get from a training plan.  Is that what you are looking for?

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If it is a question of how the three sports fit/flow, read a book on triathlon and scan the forums.  It sounds like you are in shape, so you could develop your own training plan to stay fit.  Volunteer at a tri and you can easily get a feel for the flow.  Only other thing is equipment like wetsuit for swim and trisuit.  You probably have the rest of it already.

2012-11-16 6:28 AM
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Yes that is definitely the case!!!!


2012-11-16 7:44 AM
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If you're really sketchy on swimming technique post a video of your lap swimming and there's a few of us (coach Eric does the best analysis) that can point stuff out to work on.
2012-11-16 9:43 AM
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positive :D
2012-11-16 10:23 AM
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Skip down to section 5

http://triathlontrainingupdates-shaun.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-do-your-first-triathlon-getting.html

 

2012-11-16 10:40 AM
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lifejustice - 2012-11-16 8:23 AM

Skip down to section 5

http://triathlontrainingupdates-shaun.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-do-your-first-triathlon-getting.html

 

Yup!  Section 5.  But read everything else too.  =D

2012-11-26 9:01 AM
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With swimming it's good to start from scratch. Learn the fundamentals and basics. There's a number of good programs available, you might even have a good coach in your local area. 
 
When we work with swimmers we always start with becoming relaxed in the water. We then move onto balance and kick, then body position  and rotation and so on. Step by step and you'll build up your technique. It's better than thrashing out miles in the pool from the beginning. That can come later.


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