Irresponsible gun owners (Page 10)

As a gun owner I would agree (in principle) to this as well.

Daily Show did an explanation of the amendments here:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/

2nd Amendment is pretty funny.

But if we really think the 2A is/was meant to allow the people to "throw off their current form of government" wouldn't all these rules make it way to easy to disarm people? Government slowly stops renewing people and taking guns until enough people don't have them and then the government does what it wants (not that anything slows em down now).

It think that the US has it's own unique situation.  And maybe at this point, even though Canada has some positives, it also has some negatives, and simply some situations that arn't transferable to the US or vice versa.  I'll just make a couple points and hopefully there is something worthwhile in them:

1)The whole 2nd Ammendment.  Your gun laws are enshrined in Constitutional Law.  Ours arn't.  I think...and  I profess an ignorance on US government and how it works...that legislation here is a bit more fluid when it comes to things like this.   We don't hold onto laws made by man like they are holy laws from a "Volume of Sacred Law."  Even our constitution here in Canada has formulas for changing itself and Law.  Laws and legislation will change and evolve as society does.  I'm not saying this is a good or bad thing compared to the US.  Its just different. 

2)About 10 years back, a Government did come into power (Liberals) who started something called the Long Gun Registry.  It was a billion dollar waste of money (my opinion) in which every long gun had to be registered. If you owned 3 guns, you had to register each gun with the gov't.  If this irritates you, it should.  It pretty much irritated every gun owner in Canada.  Most owners I know simply ignored it, and the registry was more/less a failure.  So your concern about the gov't slowly eroding away owners rights is justified.  However, the Conservatives came to power, and have gotten rid of the entire registry program for long guns. (Except where one province is fighting to keep it. Quebec.) 

3)Your comment on the gov't not renewing licenses.  I see your point, and again I think we have two different forms of gov't.  A renewal here is pretty much filling out a 2 page form and sending it in with your photo so they can send you a new id card.  As long as you've kept your nose clean and don't have a criminal record, etc. it's renewed.  The process is extremely easy.  My wife and I took about 3 mintues total to fill out our forms.

4)For whatever reason, American's has a deep routed sense of independence and concern about there Own gov't.  I don't know why.  Perhaps it comes from the revolution for independence as opposed to Canada's slower evolution to self governance.    Canada also has a political system where I find that it will change and react for the people.  for instance, the US has the Democrats and Republicans.  There are small fringe groups, independants, etc. but for the most part the country is run by one of two philosophies.  In Canada, we have 3 major political parties accross the specturm, (conservatives, liberals, New Democrats) plus the Green Party which now holds a seat, and the Quebecois which is a regional party.  The only one of these parties that is older than 50 years is the Liberals.  The rest have evolved from older political groups or have formed as citizens unite under a particular brand.  Its more fluid, and allows the average citizen to become more involved in there own system of government.  so in a round a bout way, Canadians don't have the sense of us vs. them with our own Government.  It is a tool for us and controlled by us. Not to rule us. 

I think gun owners in the US have a right to be concerned with new gun laws.  Because yes, there is a "slippery slope" that can end up with a total gun ban as lobbyists get there foothold int the door.  Like so many other socialist agendas they slowly erode at the private rights of citizens.  But...is a background check to make sure your not a criminal to much? is it to little? I dunno. I'm not American, it's a totally different culture and totally different laws. If I wanted a hand gun I could go and take the course in it. I don't, I have no need for a hand gun.  But I'm content with my license for long guns, and my wife is happy with here pink 22 semi auto!  

I think we have to all admit that we already give the government a lot of control in the regulation of firearms.  We have waiting periods and background checks.  The president could make an executive order banning all gun sales effective midnight and we'd be powerless to stop this.  The power of the 2A lies in the fact that we already have an armed populous.

In your scenario they would have to NOT renew everyone at once.  They could not just stop renewing. If that was the case everyone would just conveniently "lose" their guns and stop getting them renewed.

BTW, CrownsOwn, your last post was very interesting.  Thanks for sharing.