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2006-07-07 1:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Anything bad about Crystal Light?
vortmax - 2006-07-07 10:30 AM

  Everything is slowly killing you.  I guess we are just not meant to live forever.  Go figure

Who wants to live forever? Who wants to live forever? FOREVER!

Sorry, couldn't resist.



2006-07-07 1:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Anything bad about Crystal Light?
Why not just make your own iced tea? With tea bags, y'know? No calories, no artificial stuff, no sugar, no fuss, no muss, no caffiene is also easily available. Who needs Crystal Light?
2006-07-07 1:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Anything bad about Crystal Light?
because their lemonade and Rasberry ice is fantastic too, and it's so much easier to just throw a premeasured tub of powder in a pitcher and fill with water or dump a little packet in a bottle of water.
2006-07-08 12:14 PM
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ok i'm not going crazy...i read last night in the May issue of Runner's that I knew I had laying around somewhere...that crystal light (actually aspartame) has been proven to cause cancer in lab rats...it's enough to make me not want to drink it...ok...i swore i wasn't gonna jump back into this debate...just wanted to drop off my 2 cents. lol
2006-07-08 12:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Anything bad about Crystal Light?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/05/health/webmd/main1473654.shtml

to say a substance "causes cancer" is quite a big generalization.  Causes cancer with what dose?  with what exposure?  In how many percent of those exposed? Do animal results translate into human cases?  Remember that even though rats are good indicators for humans in terms of toxicity, they are rats and not humans.  They still metabolise and react to some checmicals differently.  To blatently claim that something causes cancer because a lab rat came down with cancer is a stretch.  It's a good starting point for further investegation, but not a definitive result.

2006-07-08 8:13 PM
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vortmax - 2006-07-08 12:51 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/05/health/webmd/main1473654.shtml

to say a substance "causes cancer" is quite a big generalization.  Causes cancer with what dose?  with what exposure?  In how many percent of those exposed? Do animal results translate into human cases?  Remember that even though rats are good indicators for humans in terms of toxicity, they are rats and not humans.  They still metabolise and react to some checmicals differently.  To blatently claim that something causes cancer because a lab rat came down with cancer is a stretch.  It's a good starting point for further investegation, but not a definitive result.



lol not everything causes cancer. even in rats. it would seem that way, with all of the media we hear about this or that causing cancer...but truthfully, not everything causes cancer. i think if rats can develop cancer, there is a shot we can, too...i also remember my sister drinking this non stop...during her dieting days, and she started having severe memory loss. she attributed it to the crystal light...stopped drinking it, and in about a week or so...she was back to normal. so...aspartame, in general...is not good for you...in small amounts, perhaps, harmless. in daily dosages...not good.



2006-07-08 8:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Anything bad about Crystal Light?

yea, if it causes cancer in rats, then it 'can' cause cancer in us too.  However that is not enough evidence to declare the substance unsafe.  It's enough to warrent further investigation though.  Which is why I found that article rather interesting.

You said she drank the stuff nonstop.  Not sure if I would consider that a 'normal' amount.  She also may have been sensitive to it.  To generalize that into drinking a glass or two a day will have bad affects on everyone is a stretch.

2006-07-08 8:32 PM
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vortmax - 2006-07-08 8:24 PM

yea, if it causes cancer in rats, then it 'can' cause cancer in us too.  However that is not enough evidence to declare the substance unsafe.  It's enough to warrent further investigation though.  Which is why I found that article rather interesting.

You said she drank the stuff nonstop.  Not sure if I would consider that a 'normal' amount.  She also may have been sensitive to it.  To generalize that into drinking a glass or two a day will have bad affects on everyone is a stretch.



lol non stop meaning, this was her drink of choice during workouts and meals. so..to me...that's a lot...
2006-07-09 1:18 AM
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Subject: RE: Anything bad about Crystal Light?
While I do drink my share of Crystal Light, I've been shying away from it slightly to my other choice for highly chemical based beverages:

- Nestea's made a Splenda based beverage very similar to CL

- My own personal blend of stevia and Splenda Granular that I use instead of sugar to make Kool-Aid (tastes great! and just pennies a glass! )
2006-07-09 8:06 PM
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Not proof of anything.  Horrible "evidence" in fact.

sharona - 2006-07-08 8:13 PM
vortmax - 2006-07-08 12:51 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/05/health/webmd/main1473654.shtml

to say a substance "causes cancer" is quite a big generalization.  Causes cancer with what dose?  with what exposure?  In how many percent of those exposed? Do animal results translate into human cases?  Remember that even though rats are good indicators for humans in terms of toxicity, they are rats and not humans.  They still metabolise and react to some checmicals differently.  To blatently claim that something causes cancer because a lab rat came down with cancer is a stretch.  It's a good starting point for further investegation, but not a definitive result.

lol not everything causes cancer. even in rats. it would seem that way, with all of the media we hear about this or that causing cancer...but truthfully, not everything causes cancer. i think if rats can develop cancer, there is a shot we can, too...i also remember my sister drinking this non stop...during her dieting days, and she started having severe memory loss. she attributed it to the crystal light...stopped drinking it, and in about a week or so...she was back to normal. so...aspartame, in general...is not good for you...in small amounts, perhaps, harmless. in daily dosages...not good.
2006-07-09 8:20 PM
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ok....lol
my husband drinks the stuff quite a bit...he doesn't care much about what happens in rats lives. oh well...



2006-07-09 10:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Anything bad about Crystal Light?
sharona - 2006-07-08 9:13 PM

vortmax - 2006-07-08 12:51 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/05/health/webmd/main1473654.shtml

to say a substance "causes cancer" is quite a big generalization. Causes cancer with what dose? with what exposure? In how many percent of those exposed? Do animal results translate into human cases? Remember that even though rats are good indicators for humans in terms of toxicity, they are rats and not humans. They still metabolise and react to some checmicals differently. To blatently claim that something causes cancer because a lab rat came down with cancer is a stretch. It's a good starting point for further investegation, but not a definitive result.



lol not everything causes cancer. even in rats. it would seem that way, with all of the media we hear about this or that causing cancer...but truthfully, not everything causes cancer. i think if rats can develop cancer, there is a shot we can, too...i also remember my sister drinking this non stop...during her dieting days, and she started having severe memory loss. she attributed it to the crystal light...stopped drinking it, and in about a week or so...she was back to normal. so...aspartame, in general...is not good for you...in small amounts, perhaps, harmless. in daily dosages...not good.



or it could be psychosymptomatic.
2006-07-09 10:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Anything bad about Crystal Light?

he he he

kind of like when I posted an article about the dangers of DHMO in the office and one guy started to complain about symptoms and was convinced he was suffering from DMHO poisioning.

2006-07-10 5:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Anything bad about Crystal Light?
I've done some more looking around. Here is what I can figure out.

Aspartame (a tenth of the amount consumed) is converted to methanol which is consequently converted to formaldehyde. These are not bad words despite what you think, they are a part of human digestion. Formaldehyde is a carcinogin, but the amounts are trace and within natural limits.

The study linking cancer in aspertame and rodents was supposedly flawed in that they waited for the rats to die of natural causes before diagnosing the cancer. I kinda understand where that is a problem, but if you are doing it relative a control group (and the cancer rats die first and more often of cancer), I don't get it. It is for people smarter than me, but if the ACA says its crap, I gotta go with them.

The one thing I don't like is that there is no way of telling how much you are ingesting. Everything else is required to tell you how much sugar is in the product, but I can't find anywhere how much asparatame something contains? Is 1/2 gallon of crystal light like 1 diet coke? There is no way to tell as far as I know.
2006-07-10 10:09 PM
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lol--the thread that never dies lol
2006-07-10 10:28 PM
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Oh, this is nothing.  We can yap for pages and pages about nonsense. 

sharona - 2006-07-10 10:09 PM lol--the thread that never dies lol



2006-07-10 10:31 PM
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Subject: RE: Anything bad about Crystal Light?

you think this is bad....

just wait until the next no-named thread appears in COJ.

2006-07-11 2:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Anything bad about Crystal Light?
vortmax - 2006-07-09 11:58 PM

he he he

kind of like when I posted an article about the dangers of DHMO in the office and one guy started to complain about symptoms and was convinced he was suffering from DMHO poisioning.



If you think DMHO poisioning is bad, wait until you see what happens when someone is exposed to hydrogen hydroxide - pretty scary stuff

Also, for anyone who advocates the use of only naturally occuring substances, please consider the effect of botulin toxin - completely natural and extremely deadly. Just because something occurs in nature doesn't mean it's safe or desirable.

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