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So am thinking of taking the clinic and serving as an official for the experience. 

Any USAT Officials here?      Do you recommend it?  What has your experience been like?  

 

 



2014-07-02 8:49 PM
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just be prepared, people will post about you on BT on how you unfairly gave them a penalty - wear it as badge of honor.
2014-07-02 9:18 PM
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The Bear is a USAT official. 

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2014-07-02 9:20 PM
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there is a course?  I figured you would just need to show you understood the bike drafting/passing rules and beyond that no outside assistance or course cutting. 

edit: i guess there is some equipment and attire rules too. i have yet to see a wetsuit measured before a swim start though. 



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2014-07-02 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by oriolepwr

So am thinking of taking the clinic and serving as an official for the experience. 

Any USAT Officials here?      Do you recommend it?  What has your experience been like?  

 

 




I am going to my clinic next month. It's a 3 hour clinic, then I work as a probationary official the following day. My g/f is an official and says it is a rather straight forward process. Attend clinic, serve as an official for 3 races and then you can become a CAT 4 official and be head official at races. Also opens you up to stipends, travel pay, etc.

For everyone that always complains about lack of officials at races, problems with drafting, etc. You would think more people would volunteer their time to become an official.
2014-07-03 6:39 AM
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Originally posted by bcagle25
Originally posted by oriolepwr

So am thinking of taking the clinic and serving as an official for the experience. 

Any USAT Officials here?      Do you recommend it?  What has your experience been like?  

 

 

I am going to my clinic next month. It's a 3 hour clinic, then I work as a probationary official the following day. My g/f is an official and says it is a rather straight forward process. Attend clinic, serve as an official for 3 races and then you can become a CAT 4 official and be head official at races. Also opens you up to stipends, travel pay, etc. For everyone that always complains about lack of officials at races, problems with drafting, etc. You would think more people would volunteer their time to become an official.

i don't think lack of officials is because there are not enough certified people out there, i think RDs only hire(?) the amount they need to (i've never seen more than 2 at local races of ~400-500 racers).  actually, i never thought about doing it but it might be fun!



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Originally posted by mehaner

Originally posted by bcagle25
Originally posted by oriolepwr

So am thinking of taking the clinic and serving as an official for the experience. 

Any USAT Officials here?      Do you recommend it?  What has your experience been like?  

 

 

I am going to my clinic next month. It's a 3 hour clinic, then I work as a probationary official the following day. My g/f is an official and says it is a rather straight forward process. Attend clinic, serve as an official for 3 races and then you can become a CAT 4 official and be head official at races. Also opens you up to stipends, travel pay, etc. For everyone that always complains about lack of officials at races, problems with drafting, etc. You would think more people would volunteer their time to become an official.

i don't think lack of officials is because there are not enough certified people out there, i think RDs only hire(?) the amount they need to (i've never seen more than 2 at local races of ~400-500 racers).  actually, i never thought about doing it but it might be fun!

Yep, I really don't think it's the supply of certified officials that is the limiter (certainly not in this region) but rather the demand. You do not need certified officials to be a USAT-sanctioned race, so it's really up to the RD as to whether he/she wants the additional expense. With hotel accommodations and travel. cost of a single official can approach $400 (figure on $150 minimum). Also the number of officials is dictated by the size of the race, again not necessarily supply.

To Dave's original question, I do recommend it, all my experiences have been positive and it's a way to give back to the sport, You won't get rich doing this but you should have your time and travel paid for.

Especially recommend it if it takes your time away from fantasy football to give the rest of us a chance.



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2014-07-03 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by the bear

Originally posted by mehaner

Originally posted by bcagle25
Originally posted by oriolepwr

So am thinking of taking the clinic and serving as an official for the experience. 

Any USAT Officials here?      Do you recommend it?  What has your experience been like?  

 

 

I am going to my clinic next month. It's a 3 hour clinic, then I work as a probationary official the following day. My g/f is an official and says it is a rather straight forward process. Attend clinic, serve as an official for 3 races and then you can become a CAT 4 official and be head official at races. Also opens you up to stipends, travel pay, etc. For everyone that always complains about lack of officials at races, problems with drafting, etc. You would think more people would volunteer their time to become an official.

i don't think lack of officials is because there are not enough certified people out there, i think RDs only hire(?) the amount they need to (i've never seen more than 2 at local races of ~400-500 racers).  actually, i never thought about doing it but it might be fun!

Yep, I really don't think it's the supply of certified officials that is the limiter (certainly not in this region) but rather the demand. You do not need certified officials to be a USAT-sanctioned race, so it's really up to the RD as to whether he/she wants the additional expense. With hotel accommodations and travel. cost of a single official can approach $400 (figure on $150 minimum). Also the number of officials is dictated by the size of the race, again not necessarily supply.

To Dave's original question, I do recommend it, all my experiences have been positive and it's a way to give back to the sport, You won't get rich doing this but you should have your time and travel paid for.

Especially recommend it if it takes your time away from fantasy football to give the rest of us a chance.




Interesting. So cost of officials time and travel goes into the race fees? Is being USAT sanctioned with certified officials covered at all by USAT sanctioning or is that incurred within the RD?
2014-07-03 5:32 PM
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Originally posted by bcagle25Interesting. So cost of officials time and travel goes into the race fees? 

Just like every other race-related expense, this is paid for by the participants. But in a 300-500 participant sprint, it works out that less than $1 of the $75+ entry fee would go to the officials.

 

Is being USAT sanctioned with certified officials covered at all by USAT sanctioning or is that incurred within the RD?

If I read the question correctly, in a typical race no part of sanctioning requires certified officials. In most cases it is the RD's choice to have (and to pay for) certified officials. The RD may also choose to self-officiate, e.g., have volunteer, non-certified marshals out on the course.

The exception that most readily comes to mind is championship races, which the USAT requires to have certified officials, IIRC.

2014-07-09 9:26 PM
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 Update: 

Was signed up to race Door County 1/2 Iron but life has gotten in the way of quality training.       I would have felt horrible with a DNS without salvaging some good out of it.  

SOOOO

I snagged the last spot for the  USAT official clinic @ Door!  Woot!   gonna be fun way to still participate in the event.     AND this way I won;t be all moping around on our family getaway trip.  

Ben:  Is that the clinic you are also attending? if so will see you there!

Bear:  I have already mock drafted like 100 times getting ready for year 3 of BTFFL2     So ready for football!

 

 

2014-07-09 10:34 PM
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 Update: 

Was signed up to race Door County 1/2 Iron but life has gotten in the way of quality training.       I would have felt horrible with a DNS without salvaging some good out of it.  

SOOOO

I snagged the last spot for the  USAT official clinic @ Door!  Woot!   gonna be fun way to still participate in the event.     AND this way I won;t be all moping around on our family getaway trip.  

Ben:  Is that the clinic you are also attending? if so will see you there!

Bear:  I have already mock drafted like 100 times getting ready for year 3 of BTFFL2     So ready for football!

 

 




Yup, I'll see you in Door.


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