Alternative Forms of Birth Control (Page 2)

lisac957 - 2006-08-21 12:38 PM

tmwelshy - 2006-08-21 1:34 PM

Would you want kids otherwise?

I'm undecided on that.

I'm curious if there is a way to test for some of these issues in terms of whether you're a "carrier" or not..... 

lisac957 - 2006-08-21 2:38 PM

tmwelshy - 2006-08-21 1:34 PM

Would you want kids otherwise?

I'm undecided on that.

When if you change your mind, you can always adopt.

Badly behaved kids are usually the result of bad parenting, not themselves.

ugh yoi! I am not too sure I agree (Completely) Everyone says enjoy them now: I must admit it's a struggle. I am with my young children 13-14 hrs/day every day of the week. I love them to death, but honestly, I am burnt out totally and completely. I am counting the days to preschool. This is raw, wicked and there is no time for me to be anything other than a Mommy. I want to be a freaking racing machine. Someday. sigh.....

 I dunno, Welshy... I know several couples who were quoting most of your post verbatim, until they had the SECOND child.  Yes, I agree that with out-and-out rudeness and the like, that's a parenting issue.  But children - aka people - are born with different temperaments.  Some are just more naturally inclined to be loud, or to run around more, or whatever.   This is certainly the case with my nephews - night and day different personalities and characters, so different behavioral difficulties.  (But they are both amazing and wonderful, of course!)

So with your daughter's thoughtful disposition, it sounds like a combination of good parenting and, well, the roll of the genetic dice that time!

No time to spell check...  

Yes, I'll buy that. I wasn't in a place where I could reflect on how I wanted to say it too much - I do agree that the spin of the dice can have an effect on temperment and outcome, and I sure as sht know how tiring and mentally exhausting it can be, but I'm thinking primarily about well behaved v poorly behaved and more about the joys of being a parent as opposed to how "horrible" it is.

I guess I look at it this way: What have you put up with at work? How exhausting has a job or school been? How hard do you train? All these things are for an outcome (usually) that is other than the immediate circumstance, though that can be worthwhile in it's own way. Sacrifice? Absolutely. But the payoff is well worth it; particularly when the parent actively parents. 

I have absolutely no problem if someone doesn't want to have kids. I think that i't's probably the right decision for anyone intelligent enough to make it. What I mean to say is raising a child isn't all bad and in fact it can be the most insanely rewarding experience that ever was. Many of you know my issues with organized religion, but when my daughter runs into the room, gives me a hug for no reason and says "I love you daddy," then runs away giggling, I can almost see into god's heart. It and a thousand thousand meaningless moments with my daughter break whatever angst I have against indominable rocks of her love. If love were easy it would be called... like. 

I have two boys ages 1 and 2.  I will admit there are days when they are crawling the walls and I think I may loose my mind.   But there are many more days when spending every minute with them is pure joy.  Last night for instance my oldest wanted to watch football (my wife rolled her eyes at this one) after he say the Cowboys and Saints pre-season MNF game on.  So he climbed in my lap like I was his personal "barkolounger" and we watched parts of the game until it was time for him to go to bed.  I look forward to the day when both of my boys are able to attend a tri to watch and cheer on their Dad.  It will be moments such as that that will outshine the instances where I may loose my mind. 

Oh man... Walking across the street, and I reach out my hand and find her's there.... It's all the "good job daddy" I will ever need (though I have to admit to locking her in her room to make me a birthday card a couple years ago...).