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| General Discussion | Triathlon Talk » Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY? | Rss Feed  |
 2015-05-03 4:54 PM |
Regular  134   Oregon |  Subject: Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY?Hey all. I've got a sprint on 6-6-15. I've done this race 2 other times and though I'd like to improve my times it's a pretty easy race, I'm not too worried about it. I've signed up for my first half marathon on 8-16-2015. I am somewhat worried about this as I've never run more than 10k. But my big thing, my "A" race is I'm currently training for my first ever Olympic Tri 9-20-2015. First of all, do we think that plan is too aggressive? I think it's OK but I'm no expert. 5 weeks between first HM and first Oly is OK? Secondly, if pursuing this race plan is ok then which training plan do I follow? the HM training plan has me doing A LOT more running than the Oly training plan calls for....(obviously) not just in miles per run, but in runs per week (or miles per week). Here's my initial thoughts...mostly follow the Oly training plan but just substitute the bigger runs until I finish the HM...then the last 5 weeks just revert back to the Oly training plan? any input is appreciated. |
| 2015-05-03 6:05 PM in reply to: #5112725 |
New user 72 | Subject: RE: Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY? I trained for an Olympic and a HM on back to back weekends. I just extended my long runs and did a lot of fast finish runs instead of a ton of brick workouts. Sadly, the HM was canceled but I felt ready. Good luck! |
| 2015-05-03 7:10 PM in reply to: themissj1981 |
1055 | Subject: RE: Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY? Well, depending on your volume, it's pretty easy to cover a HM run. But if you're on the lower end of the volume curve, it could be more cumbersome. What will your volume and number of sessions look like after the June sprint leading up to the HM and Olympic? If you're doing 3 sessions of each sport, you could substitute a run in place of a swim up until the HM and then go back to 3 until the Olympic. If you're doing less than 3 sessions, it becomes a bit more difficult. Details please. |
| 2015-05-03 7:56 PM in reply to: 0 |
Regular 134 Oregon | Subject: RE: Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY? My current training is like this: Mon: off or light bike ride (commute to work 7 miles each way. flat & easy) Tues: 45 min masters swim practice in the morning, run in the evening per my HM plan ranging from 20-50 mins Weds: medium intensity bike ride (most often a trainer ride) in the evening. about 60 mins Thursday: 45 min masters swim practice in the morning. run in the evening with a co-worker usually 35-55 mins Friday: Long bike ride in the morning. 60-90 mins with room for more. evening run per my HM plan Saturday: 2 hour masters swim practice Sunday: Long run Swim: 3 Bike: 2-3 Run: 4 I realize I only have 1 rest day in there which worries me somewhat. But I can't figure out another way to fit everything in and I'm already biking less than ideal. Edited by themissj1981 2015-05-03 7:57 PM |
| 2015-05-03 9:50 PM in reply to: themissj1981 |
| 1055 | Subject: RE: Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY? You can run a respectable HM on four runs a week. How many miles per week is that adding up to and how long is your long run? Since your 'a' race is the Olympic, I wouldn't consider adding a fifth run at the expense of a bike/swim, but instead, would recommend dropping that two hour masters swim on Saturday. Your biking is woefully out of balance. Keep the Friday bike at 60-90 minutes and add a long bike on Saturday. That way you can take that rest day on Monday and not worry about having to get a ride in. How is your swim? I'm guessing ok based on what you're currently doing. Do you think you can maintain your current fitness on two 45 minute masters swim sessions? Basically, if I had to choose between any three sports to do less of than the others it would be swimming, unless your swimming is really bad relative to the other two and needs to get better quickly. Under-training the bike doesn't just give you a slow bike time, it can kill your run time as well. |
| 2015-05-04 8:42 AM in reply to: ziggie204 |
| 409 Durham, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY? I wouldn't worry too much about only having one rest day if your plan has taper weeks in it (I think this depends on age/fitness/recovery for you personally). I would try to tweak my plan to taper on the weeks leading up to your sprint and HM too. |
| 2015-05-04 9:26 AM in reply to: ziggie204 |
Regular 134 Oregon | Subject: RE: Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY? Originally posted by ziggie204 How is your swim? I'm guessing ok based on what you're currently doing. Do you think you can maintain your current fitness on two 45 minute masters swim sessions? my swim is actually pretty terrible which is the reason I'm doing so much swimming. my first triathlon I swam at 3:34 min/100 without a wetsuit. my 2nd I did 3:18 min/100 with a wetsuit and my third I did 3:05 min/100 with a wetsuit. I'm determined to break into the 2:xx crowd this year! So I've joined the masters swim team. I won't be giving up any of my 3 swims. I'd rather do another 2 a day workout than give up the swim. running is my best event, so I feel less of a need to train for it...except for the fact that I'm doing a HM so I figured 4 days running was the sweet spot? most HM plans call for 4 or 5 days... |
| 2015-05-04 4:04 PM in reply to: #5112725 |
Member 622 Franklin, TN | Subject: RE: Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY? Generally speaking, the masters swim practice is a good environment for developing speed and endurance. Unless it's a small class, you're not going to get a lot of individualized stroke instruction and that's what you need. I would suggest getting a few private lessons to clean up the major technique issues with your stroke. |
| 2015-05-04 8:33 PM in reply to: themissj1981 |
| 1055 | Subject: RE: Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY? Heh, glad I asked then. Yeah, probably shouldn't back off the swimming. Sounds like you're doing pretty much what you can then. But as the opportunity presents itself, try to up the bike time. |
| 2015-05-04 10:23 PM in reply to: JoelO |
Regular 134 Oregon | Subject: RE: Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY? Originally posted by JoelO Generally speaking, the masters swim practice is a good environment for developing speed and endurance. Unless it's a small class, you're not going to get a lot of individualized stroke instruction and that's what you need. I would suggest getting a few private lessons to clean up the major technique issues with your stroke. I think I lucked out with my local masters team. I'm not sure what defines a large or small class..as this is my first swim team experience but our entire team only has 15 people including me and most team members cannot/do not attend every practice. An average practice has 4-8 people and occasionally there are 10-12 people. I'd estimate that I receive about 15-20 mins of 1 on 1 instruction per class (spread out over the entire session). Thanks for the input. I know I really need to work in more cycling. Maybe another bike trainer session Saturday evening? in reality it would only be every other Saturday due to having a tiny bit of a social life |
| 2015-05-04 10:31 PM in reply to: #5113019 |
Veteran 629 Grapevine, TX | Subject: RE: Help me with my summer training plan for a sprint, HM and OLY? Actually training for an HM and Oly at the same time has complementary effects. They are if similar durations and the Oly training takes some pressure off your feet while keeping up the endurance work. Ideally your Oly long run would actually be an HM, maybe not this year but someday. |
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