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2006-11-03 10:42 AM
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Stake - 2006-11-03 10:28 AM

7 pages over the definition of "ran"? How utterly amazing and very Slowtwitch...

I've been marvelling over how long this thread has gone on for, 8 pages and counting...



Well it is a really important subject. Honestly I have learnt alot.


2006-11-03 10:48 AM
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chirunner134 - 2006-11-03 10:42 AM Well it is a really important subject. Honestly I have learnt alot.

Yes.  Me too.

2006-11-03 10:50 AM
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Subject: RE: should there be a universal time limit for marathons?
the bear - 2006-11-03 9:36 AM
coredump - 2006-11-03 10:34 AM

Debate less, train more.

Be defined by what you 'do', not by what you've 'done'.

Man, that is SO deep.

You forgot the sarcasm font. 

My point was rather than sit and argue over how to define a race that's already done, we should be looking forward to our next races.

2006-11-03 10:52 AM
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coredump - 2006-11-03 10:50 AM

My point was rather than sit and argue over how to define a race that's already done, we should be looking forward to our next races.

People ask for opinions, I provide. I'm closing in on 500 hours training for the year, ain't a whole lot more I can squeeze in. Plus they don't let me train at work.



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2006-11-03 10:53 AM
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Maybe we should change the name of this thread to "ChiRunner's running, life, and times"


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2006-11-03 10:56 AM
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Subject: RE: should there be a universal time limit for marathons?
the bear - 2006-11-03 11:52 AM
coredump - 2006-11-03 10:50 AM

My point was rather than sit and argue over how to define a race that's already done, we should be looking forward to our next races.

People ask for opinions, I provide. I'm closing in on 500 hours training for the year, ain't a whole lot more I can squeeze in. Plus they don't let me train at work.

But they obviously let you post on BT a lot.

 



2006-11-03 10:57 AM
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RedCorvette - 2006-11-03 10:56 AM

But they obviously let you post on BT a lot.

Well duh! Obviously they don't require deep thinking at your job.

2006-11-03 10:57 AM
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rkreuser - 2006-11-03 11:27 AM

IMHO, nitpicking the verbs people use to describe their marathon accomplishment, whatever it is, seems pointless. It seems more like a way of creating a 'tiered' structure for marathon finishers using an inconsistent/arbitrary means.  That results in me being fired up toooo early in the morning.

Yes, the solution, of course, is to set a universal time limit for all marathons.

See what I did there? Bringing back around ...

2006-11-03 11:03 AM
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the bear - 2006-11-03 11:57 AM
RedCorvette - 2006-11-03 10:56 AM

But they obviously let you post on BT a lot.

Well duh! Obviously they don't require deep thinking at your job.

Just have to be smarter than my clients (or make them think I am).  It's a relative thing.

2006-11-03 11:08 AM
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Subject: RE: should there be a universal time limit for marathons?
Comet - 2006-11-03 10:53 AM

Maybe we should change the name of this thread to "ChiRunner's running, life, and times"


Uh yeah, seriously


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2006-11-03 11:09 AM
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Subject: RE: should there be a universal time limit for marathons?
Chippy - 2006-11-03 10:57 AM

Yes, the solution, of course, is to set a universal time limit for all marathons.

See what I did there? Bringing back around ...



yep I like 8 hours because frankly most anyone can walk that in a decent pace and still finish. Talking only a max time though actually limits can be less of course.

If they race is too hard for you to do it in 8 hours then pick a race that is easier. not everyone should be doing pikes peak marathon anyways probably.

if the avg finish time for a marathon is more than 8 hours then simple add .1 miles and make it an ultra marathon and then the time limit does not apply and makes you look even better. Wow genesis. (next thread what is the min distance for an ultra maraton).

I think everyone should be happy except for the 5 hour people. who care about them anyways?.


2006-11-03 11:09 AM
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RedCorvette - 2006-11-03 11:03 AM
the bear - 2006-11-03 11:57 AM
RedCorvette - 2006-11-03 10:56 AM

But they obviously let you post on BT a lot.

Well duh! Obviously they don't require deep thinking at your job.

Just have to be smarter than my clients (or make them think I am).  It's a relative thing.

Ah, didn't realize you were in Special Education.

2006-11-03 11:11 AM
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Subject: RE: should there be a universal time limit for marathons?
chirunner134 - 2006-11-03 11:09 AM
Chippy - 2006-11-03 10:57 AM

Yes, the solution, of course, is to set a universal time limit for all marathons.

See what I did there? Bringing back around ...

yep I like 8 hours because frankly most anyone can walk that in a decent pace and still finish.

Bet you can't find a dozen that have time limits longer than 8 hours. So all this discussion has been about fewer than twelve races?

2006-11-03 11:12 AM
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chirunner134 - 2006-11-03 11:09 AM
Chippy - 2006-11-03 10:57 AM

Yes, the solution, of course, is to set a universal time limit for all marathons.

See what I did there? Bringing back around ...

yep I like 8 hours because frankly most anyone can walk that in a decent pace and still finish. Talking only a max time though actually limits can be less of course. If they race is too hard for you to do it in 8 hours then pick a race that is easier. not everyone should be doing pikes peak marathon anyways probably. if the avg finish time for a marathon is more than 8 hours then simple add .1 miles and make it an ultra marathon and then the time limit does not apply and makes you look even better. Wow genesis. (next thread what is the min distance for an ultra maraton). I think everyone should be happy except for the 5 hour people. who care about them anyways?.

We've heard your stance on this many, many times in this thread.

Why can't this just die?

Marathons won't have a universal limit, RD and the cities that host them will dictate the time limit (which we established on pages 1 & 2 of this thread). Plain and simple. Move on.



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2006-11-03 11:20 AM
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Subject: RE: should there be a universal time limit for marathons?

Should there be a universal time limit on uninteresting threads?  (like this one)

 

 

2006-11-03 11:23 AM
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tkbslc - 2006-11-03 11:20 AM

Should there be a universal time limit on uninteresting threads?  (like this one)

Or boring posters? (like this one)



2006-11-03 11:31 AM
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Yes there should!
But all should do their best to not minimize the accomplishments of the person who completes a marathon!  walking, running, or both!  Yes this debate is like beating a dead horse, and im just reading it up to now.  What next, do we have to justify the verb for what we call a wheelchair athlete who completes a marathon, and the amputees?

By description, i'll never run a marathon.  but you better damn believe that I will be every bit as estatic as the person who does, because we both completed the same course.

tkbslc - 2006-11-03 11:20 AM

Should there be a universal time limit on uninteresting threads?  (like this one)

 

 



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2006-11-03 11:46 AM
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Doughboy - 2006-11-03 11:31 AM

Yes there should!
But all should do their best to not minimize the accomplishments of the person who completes a marathon!  walking, running, or both!  Yes this debate is like beating a dead horse, and im just reading it up to now.  What next, do we have to justify the verb for what we call a wheelchair athlete who completes a marathon, and the amputees?

By description, i'll never run a marathon.  but you better damn believe that I will be every bit as estatic as the person who does, because we both completed the same course.

As well you should be, as I have said the verb describes the action, not the accomplishment. And if you say "never," then it's probably true.

I'm not sure what your point is, but I doubt you will find a wheelchair athlete who would say he "ran" a marathon.

2006-11-03 2:34 PM
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the bear - 2006-11-03 11:46 AM

I'm not sure what your point is, but I doubt you will find a wheelchair athlete who would say he "ran" a marathon.



Not quite a wheelchair...but you'll get the point. You'll notice the very widespread use of the word "run" by this person who took 26 hours to "complete" the marathon - on crutches.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9D07EFDF1...


2006-11-03 2:41 PM
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this topic really has run its course!
2006-11-03 2:43 PM
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MEDIC!  I need a post-killer, stat!


2006-11-03 2:59 PM
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the bear - 2006-11-03 11:46 AM I'm not sure what your point is, but I doubt you will find a wheelchair athlete who would say he "ran" a marathon.

 

Not quite a wheelchair...but you'll get the point. You'll notice the very widespread use of the word "run" by this person who took 26 hours to "complete" the marathon - on crutches. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9D07E...

Went through it and only found one instance where she said run. Sure I missed others.

Really, I have no problem with anyone calling what they do whatever they choose to call it. I'm well within my rights to say I ran a century even though I did it on my bike. But that doesn't make it so.

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awol - 2006-11-03 3:41 PM this topic really has run completed its course!

 

2006-11-03 3:11 PM
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the bear - 2006-11-03 2:59 PM

Really, I have no problem with anyone calling what they do whatever they choose to call it. I'm well within my rights to say I ran a century even though I did it on my bike. But that doesn't make it so.



Well I think most every deadicate runner and runner magazine would disgree with your definition of what it means to run a race, but you are right its a matter of opinion mostly.

I would run/walk a marathon over straight running if it ment a faster finishing time. Heck I would even walk it if it was faster then run/walk. Honest your finishing time is what counts more than how you got there as long as it is race legal.



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Comet - 2006-11-03 11:12 AM

AGAIN: We've heard your stance on this many, many times in this thread.

Why can't this just die?

Marathons won't have a universal limit, RD and the cities that host them will dictate the time limit (which we established on pages 1 & 2 of this thread). Plain and simple. Move on.

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