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2007-01-16 9:45 AM

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Subject: Front Derailleur Adjustments
I am as far from a bicycle mechanic as one can get so I need some feedback. I found that my road bike as well as my new tri bike experience front derailleur "rubbing". When I am in the big/small gear I adjust the derailleur to about a millimeter from the chain. I then shift to the small/big gear and there is rubbing. Is this normal? I know that there is gear overlap so does that mean that I should stay out of certain combinations? Is there an adjustment other than the H and L-screws that I should be considering?

I can always take it to the shop but I would rather know how to do this - any help would be appreciated.


2007-01-16 10:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Front Derailleur Adjustments

Are you adjusting it with the two set screws or are you adjusting it by rotating the entire derrailleur??

The two set screws allow you to dial both the upper and lower ranges independently.  If you are in your 39 x 23 (assuming a 53/39 with an 11-23 cassette) then you should not be rubbing on the inside part of the der.  When you shift it down to the other extreme of the 39 x 11, then you will get some rubbing (because of the cross-over that you shouldn;t be doing anyways).

After checking the low, you go to the 53 x 11 to check the high, and same thing, adjust it so that there is no rub.  Then go to the big chainring extreme in the 53 x 23 and you'll probably have some rubbing.

If you are getting rubbing at other times then the der. is probably not aligned with the chainrings correctly in the first place and the set screws won't help as much.

2007-01-16 11:05 AM
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Subject: RE: Front Derailleur Adjustments
I am not sure if this may be part of you problem - but you should avoid cross-chaining (using the large chainring large rear cog or using the small chainring small rear cog). Cross-chaining will most likely make your FD rub and is also hard on you drivetrain.

you can check out a more detailed discussion on gearing/shifting below

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gain.html



Edited by cnm 2007-01-16 11:06 AM
2007-01-16 12:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Front Derailleur Adjustments
Daremo - 2007-01-16 11:45 AM

Are you adjusting it with the two set screws or are you adjusting it by rotating the entire derrailleur??

The two set screws allow you to dial both the upper and lower ranges independently. If you are in your 39 x 23 (assuming a 53/39 with an 11-23 cassette) then you should not be rubbing on the inside part of the der. When you shift it down to the other extreme of the 39 x 11, then you will get some rubbing (because of the cross-over that you shouldn;t be doing anyways).

After checking the low, you go to the 53 x 11 to check the high, and same thing, adjust it so that there is no rub. Then go to the big chainring extreme in the 53 x 23 and you'll probably have some rubbing.

If you are getting rubbing at other times then the der. is probably not aligned with the chainrings correctly in the first place and the set screws won't help as much.



So if I start out in my easiest gear 39-25 (my cassette is 12-25) and start to upshift then I should switch to the 53 before I get to 12, correct? Is there a "standard" gear that one switches to the 53?

Hard to believe I have been riding for 18 months and didn't know this ... I should post the question on ST and see how badly I get basted!
2007-01-16 12:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Front Derailleur Adjustments

For actual shifting, I strictly go by cadence.  If I'm doing 105+ then I shift up.  If I'm going downhill or have a tailwind then I'll just go ahead and get in the big ring ahead of time.

I personally never use th 39 x 12 or 11 (I have an 11-23 for training, 11-21 for racing) or the 53 x 21 or 23.  Those are just too extreme of a cross-over for me.  So I effectively only have 16 speeds, of which about half are overlapped gearing depending on if I'm in the big or small ring.

On a rolling terrain I'm constantly shifting to give you an idea of my approach.  There is no specific time in the gear sequence you should shift to the big really.  It is whatever works best for your pedaling style and cadence.

2007-01-16 12:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Front Derailleur Adjustments
Try this link. It's a little hard to understand at first but once you look through it you should be able to see the cross-over points.

edited to add - I don't actually use this to figure out my shifting - I go by feel and try to shift somewhere in the middle of the cassette - my goal is to keep my cadence up (90-100rpm) while working within a given RPE or HR.

Shane

Edited by gsmacleod 2007-01-16 12:17 PM


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