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2007-10-17 7:18 AM

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It will be here before we know it.  I know many of you are in the October run challenge so I just want to put out an idea.   I read an article (for the life of me I can't remember where) about balance in training.  The author assigned a point value for a specified distance in each discipline.  I thought this might be a good way to do a challenge based on points.  I have not been on BT much for the last 8 months or so, so if it has been done, maybe someone can help. 

Example of point system

Swim 100 yards = 1 point

Bike 1 mile = 1 point

Run 1/4 mile = 1 point

The goal would be to balance your training to come out with the points even.  We can obviously adjust the point system, I am just throwing something out there. 

Edit: We could also look at total team points to go by volume.



Edited by nccgrap 2007-10-17 7:19 AM


2007-10-17 7:44 AM
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http://www.slowtwitch.com/Training/Aerobic_points_system_15.html

The points system, from that other website.

Good idea, and I may be in on this one too.

2007-10-17 7:55 AM
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Okay, that was it.  Well I guess something good can come out of ST.  I am impressed that I got the scale rigth! 

2007-10-17 8:07 AM
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I followed a very similar system when I 1st came to BT.  I used 3 miles = 1 pt on the bike and 1 mile = 1 pt for the run, swim was the same.  I didn't use it for balance though, I used it to determine how much I was doing, like 50 points for the week or the like. 

I'm out for Nov though, it my down month before the training starts in earnest with the annual Dec swim challenge!

2007-10-17 8:44 AM
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It sounds like fun, but now isn't a good time for me to work on balance. I'm pretty much ignoring my tri training in favor of marathon training. It would be nice in the spring though, so I hope we do a similar one then.
2007-10-17 8:47 AM
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Atlantia - 2007-10-17 9:44 AM It sounds like fun, but now isn't a good time for me to work on balance. I'm pretty much ignoring my tri training in favor of marathon training. It would be nice in the spring though, so I hope we do a similar one then.

Same here.  I'm going to be focused on run training for the next few months, with maybe some biking and swimming thrown in for cross training.  

It sounds like a great idea, though!  Would love to do this in the spring. 



2007-10-17 9:12 AM
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Well, is another run challenge in order?
2007-10-17 9:35 AM
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Or perhaps a total point challenge...
2007-10-17 10:35 AM
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nccgrap - 2007-10-17 10:12 AM
Well, is another run challenge in order?


Actually, I had a "You pick the goal" challenge idea. I'd been waiting to post it, because it's only mid-October, and because I haven't worked out all the details yet. (I've run a draft by Cat, and gotten her feedback already.) Here's the general idea. Let me know what you think:

November “You Pick the Goal” Challenge!

This time, YOU pick the goal.

Run, swim or bike…. Kayak, roller blade or surf. Want to ride 100 miles? Hit the elliptical for 8 hours? Perform the exercises the Physical Therapist prescribed? Whatever you want, it’s YOUR goal.

To participate, simply state your goal. (Goals may given by time or distance. Time: in hours. Distance: in miles, km or yards.)
For example: “Weight training. 12 hours.”

You set the goal. You set the guidelines. No need to worry about whether ‘swimming” includes kick drills. This month, it’s your choice!


There's more, of course. But this is the basic premise. I came up with this idea was because there have been bike/swim/run challenges already. And I heard that December will be a swim challenge. So I figured that this would give everyone a chance to pick their own goal. It can be running/swimming/biking - or anything else that you've wanted to accomplish.

What do you think? Worth pursuing this as a Challenge idea?

Dee



Edited by D001 2007-10-17 10:43 AM
2007-10-17 10:39 AM
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Oh, I should add that I was trying to make it really simple.

You pick the goal. You set the guidelines. And the "penalty" will probably be nothing more than adding a signature line for the month of December.

Probably something like:
Winners: Anyone who achieves more than 90% of their goal is a WINNER.
Add a signature line that says: “I am a WINNER. I won the November Challenge!”

Attempters: Anyone who achieves between 80 – 90% of their goal is an Attempter.
Add a signature line that says: “I did a great job on the November Challenge!”

Nonwinners: Anyone who achieves less than 80% of their goal is a Nonwinner.
Add a signature line that says: “I will train harder next month!”

If there was enough interest, I'd set up teams. But I haven't figured out yet how to group the teams. (Randomly, by geographic location, by the goals, etc.)

I've started putting it on paper, but some of it is still in my head.

Dee

2007-10-17 10:39 AM
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Ah, a double post. How nice. Thanks, BT!

I've deleted the content, so you don't have to wade thru it twice.

Dee



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2007-10-17 10:43 AM
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D001 - 2007-10-17 10:35 AM

nccgrap - 2007-10-17 10:12 AM
Well, is another run challenge in order?


Actually, I had a "You pick the goal" challenge idea. I'd been waiting to post it, because it's only mid-October, and because I haven't worked out all the details yet. (I've run a draft by Cat, and gotten her feedback already.) Here's the general idea. Let me know what you think:

November “You Pick the Goal” Challenge!

This time, YOU pick the goal.

Run, swim or bike…. Kayak, roller blade or surf. Want to ride 100 miles? Hit the elliptical for 8 hours? Perform the exercises the Physical Therapist prescribed? Whatever you want, it’s YOUR goal.

To participate, simply reply to this message and state your goal. (Goals may given by time or distance. Time: in hours. Distance: in miles, km or yards.)
For example: “Weight training. 12 hours.”

You set the goal. You set the guidelines. No need to worry about whether ‘swimming” includes kick drills. This month, it’s your choice!


There's more, of course. But this is the basic premise. What do you think? Worth pursuing this as a Challenge idea?

Dee



That's a neat idea. I'm really focused on running right now, but I've also got stretching and yoga goals for myself. Your idea is perfect for me!
2007-10-17 12:06 PM
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I also like that idea! I'm up for the challenge. No assatar. Phew.
2007-10-17 12:18 PM
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2007-10-17 1:35 PM
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I like the choose your own idea. Let's save the point one for next year when we are all gearing back up for our TRI's.


2007-10-17 1:55 PM
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I dig this.

I dig the boys vs girls lineup, but something tells me the challenge would be so popular we'd need teams again. Geo is fun 'cause you might get to meet folks from your area ... could also generally group people by their goals (it'd be a loose affiliation, but useful) ...

Dee ... you're smart, generous, and a great athlete. Keep it up!

 

D001 - 2007-10-17 10:35 AM
nccgrap - 2007-10-17 10:12 AM Well, is another run challenge in order?
Actually, I had a "You pick the goal" challenge idea. I'd been waiting to post it, because it's only mid-October, and because I haven't worked out all the details yet. (I've run a draft by Cat, and gotten her feedback already.) Here's the general idea. Let me know what you think: November “You Pick the Goal” Challenge! This time, YOU pick the goal. Run, swim or bike…. Kayak, roller blade or surf. Want to ride 100 miles? Hit the elliptical for 8 hours? Perform the exercises the Physical Therapist prescribed? Whatever you want, it’s YOUR goal. To participate, simply state your goal. (Goals may given by time or distance. Time: in hours. Distance: in miles, km or yards.) For example: “Weight training. 12 hours.” You set the goal. You set the guidelines. No need to worry about whether ‘swimming” includes kick drills. This month, it’s your choice! There's more, of course. But this is the basic premise. I came up with this idea was because there have been bike/swim/run challenges already. And I heard that December will be a swim challenge. So I figured that this would give everyone a chance to pick their own goal. It can be running/swimming/biking - or anything else that you've wanted to accomplish. What do you think? Worth pursuing this as a Challenge idea? Dee

2007-10-17 3:20 PM
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D001 - 2007-10-18 1:35 AM
nccgrap - 2007-10-17 10:12 AM Well, is another run challenge in order?
Actually, I had a "You pick the goal" challenge idea. I'd been waiting to post it, because it's only mid-October, and because I haven't worked out all the details yet. (I've run a draft by Cat, and gotten her feedback already.) Here's the general idea. Let me know what you think: November “You Pick the Goal” Challenge! This time, YOU pick the goal. Run, swim or bike…. Kayak, roller blade or surf. Want to ride 100 miles? Hit the elliptical for 8 hours? Perform the exercises the Physical Therapist prescribed? Whatever you want, it’s YOUR goal. To participate, simply state your goal. (Goals may given by time or distance. Time: in hours. Distance: in miles, km or yards.) For example: “Weight training. 12 hours.” You set the goal. You set the guidelines. No need to worry about whether ‘swimming” includes kick drills. This month, it’s your choice! There's more, of course. But this is the basic premise. I came up with this idea was because there have been bike/swim/run challenges already. And I heard that December will be a swim challenge. So I figured that this would give everyone a chance to pick their own goal. It can be running/swimming/biking - or anything else that you've wanted to accomplish. What do you think? Worth pursuing this as a Challenge idea? Dee

 

Yay Dee!!! You posted it Go Girlie!!!!
2007-10-17 3:21 PM
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nccgrap - 2007-10-17 10:18 PM

It will be here before we know it. I know many of you are in the October run challenge so I just want to put out an idea. I read an article (for the life of me I can't remember where) about balance in training. The author assigned a point value for a specified distance in each discipline. I thought this might be a good way to do a challenge based on points. I have not been on BT much for the last 8 months or so, so if it has been done, maybe someone can help.

Example of point system

Swim 100 yards = 1 point

Bike 1 mile = 1 point

Run 1/4 mile = 1 point

The goal would be to balance your training to come out with the points even. We can obviously adjust the point system, I am just throwing something out there.

Edit: We could also look at total team points to go by volume.

 

This is also an awesome concept... for me Down Under heading into tri season its probably more relevant! (well except for the running since Im going to be on the elliptical for a LONG time)

Just one thing... any chance it can be made applicable for those who use metric or train by time rather than distance too?

Cat



Edited by kaqphin 2007-10-17 3:22 PM
2007-10-17 5:25 PM
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dee-
i'm all over it!! i love it!
--to others who sign up for it--don't forget daylight savings is ending on (i think) nov 6th (??) so if you're a big baby about running or biking in the dark, and you have no indoor equipment--factor it in to your goal. (i say this because I AM a big baby about the dark )
2007-10-17 8:24 PM
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D001 - 2007-10-17 9:35 AM
nccgrap - 2007-10-17 10:12 AM Well, is another run challenge in order?
Actually, I had a "You pick the goal" challenge idea. I'd been waiting to post it, because it's only mid-October, and because I haven't worked out all the details yet. (I've run a draft by Cat, and gotten her feedback already.) Here's the general idea. Let me know what you think: November “You Pick the Goal” Challenge! This time, YOU pick the goal. Run, swim or bike…. Kayak, roller blade or surf. Want to ride 100 miles? Hit the elliptical for 8 hours? Perform the exercises the Physical Therapist prescribed? Whatever you want, it’s YOUR goal. To participate, simply state your goal. (Goals may given by time or distance. Time: in hours. Distance: in miles, km or yards.) For example: “Weight training. 12 hours.” You set the goal. You set the guidelines. No need to worry about whether ‘swimming” includes kick drills. This month, it’s your choice! There's more, of course. But this is the basic premise. I came up with this idea was because there have been bike/swim/run challenges already. And I heard that December will be a swim challenge. So I figured that this would give everyone a chance to pick their own goal. It can be running/swimming/biking - or anything else that you've wanted to accomplish. What do you think? Worth pursuing this as a Challenge idea? Dee

Okay, I give.  It is true, maybe a points challenge will be better when we are all gearing back up in our base phases. 

I think this is a great idea.  I am interested to see how we score the deal, but I am in, and if need be I will even be a captian (about time I pull my weight around here).



2007-10-17 8:29 PM
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nccgrap - 2007-10-18 11:24 AM

D001 - 2007-10-17 9:35 AM
nccgrap - 2007-10-17 10:12 AM Well, is another run challenge in order?
Actually, I had a "You pick the goal" challenge idea. I'd been waiting to post it, because it's only mid-October, and because I haven't worked out all the details yet. (I've run a draft by Cat, and gotten her feedback already.) Here's the general idea. Let me know what you think: November “You Pick the Goal” Challenge! This time, YOU pick the goal. Run, swim or bike…. Kayak, roller blade or surf. Want to ride 100 miles? Hit the elliptical for 8 hours? Perform the exercises the Physical Therapist prescribed? Whatever you want, it’s YOUR goal. To participate, simply state your goal. (Goals may given by time or distance. Time: in hours. Distance: in miles, km or yards.) For example: “Weight training. 12 hours.” You set the goal. You set the guidelines. No need to worry about whether ‘swimming” includes kick drills. This month, it’s your choice! There's more, of course. But this is the basic premise. I came up with this idea was because there have been bike/swim/run challenges already. And I heard that December will be a swim challenge. So I figured that this would give everyone a chance to pick their own goal. It can be running/swimming/biking - or anything else that you've wanted to accomplish. What do you think? Worth pursuing this as a Challenge idea? Dee

Okay, I give.  It is true, maybe a points challenge will be better when we are all gearing back up in our base phases. 

I think this is a great idea.  I am interested to see how we score the deal, but I am in, and if need be I will even be a captian (about time I pull my weight around here).

You should take some credit! You got people thinking about next month early!!!!

Go Dee! Looks like you are next months challenge queen!!!!

2007-10-17 10:06 PM
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nccgrap - 2007-10-17 9:24 PM

Okay, I give. It is true, maybe a points challenge will be better when we are all gearing back up in our base phases.

I think this is a great idea. I am interested to see how we score the deal, but I am in, and if need be I will even be a captian (about time I pull my weight around here).



I was about to suggest that we put up a poll, and just go with the majority vote. But it looks like opinion, so far, is on the side of everyone picking their own goal.

This is a bit scary to me - 'cause I haven't worked out all the details yet! LOL

But I really DO like your idea of a points based challenge, too. After all, this is a TRI site, so we SHOULD be doing TRI activities, right? So....

How about if we do the "You pick the goal" challenge for November? Then, it looks like December is going to be a Swim Challenge.... And maybe we can do your Points Based Challenge after tha - either January or some month after that? (Spring was suggested by several people.)

As for captains, yep, we're going to need some, I think! OK, you're hired! (As is anyone else who wants to captain.) I must warn you though, the pay isn't great.

Thanks for being so nice about this. You came by and suggested a GREAT challenge. (I really DO like it!) And I just ran in and STOMPED over your thread....

Dee


2007-10-17 10:12 PM
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TriAya - 2007-10-17 2:55 PM

I dig this.

I dig the boys vs girls lineup, but something tells me the challenge would be so popular we'd need teams again. Geo is fun 'cause you might get to meet folks from your area ... could also generally group people by their goals (it'd be a loose affiliation, but useful) ...

Dee ... you're smart, generous, and a great athlete. Keep it up!



Yes, I bet you DO dig the boys vs girls lineup. I've been reading your team thread, remember? LOL Hm.... another month of those kind of pics? Hmmmm!!!!

But actually, I haven't given much thought to grouping people into teams yet. OK, so far for ideas, we have:
- Boys vs girls
- Location
- Goals

Maybe also factor in some level of experience.

Hm. I have a week or so to think about it, I guess.... :/

Dee
2007-10-17 10:25 PM
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kaqphin - 2007-10-17 4:20 PM
Yay Dee!!! You posted it Go Girlie!!!!



Um.... uh.... yeah. I did, didn't I?

Sometimes, my fingers type faster than my brain thinks.
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