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2009-08-25 1:20 PM

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2009-08-25 1:36 PM
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That explains a few of the departments within the company I work for.
2009-08-25 1:44 PM
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and half of the drivers in KY

2009-08-25 3:56 PM
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"Obesity packs many negative health effects, including increased risk of heart disease, Type 2 diabetes, hypertension and some cancers. It's also been shown to reduce sexual activity."


hmmm, they left out the part about ruining a pole vaulting career too.
2009-08-25 4:29 PM
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The study looked at brains of people in their 70's.  So really, I don't know that we can generalize the conclusion to young or middle aged people.  Ironically, being overwieght after 40 makes your facial features look younger. So would you rather look younger or be smarter as you get older?
2009-08-25 5:22 PM
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gearboy - 2009-08-25 4:29 PM

The study looked at brains of people in their 70's.  So really, I don't know that we can generalize the conclusion to young or middle aged people.  Ironically, being overwieght after 40 makes your facial features look younger. So would you rather look younger or be smarter as you get older?


Why not be skinny, and get botox for the wrinkles? No need to be overweight!

Smart, skinny and looking good!



2009-08-25 5:23 PM
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I found this one part to be interesting...

Obese people had lost brain tissue in the frontal and temporal lobes, areas of the brain critical for planning and memory, and in the anterior cingulate gyrus (attention and executive functions), hippocampus (long-term memory) and basal ganglia (movement), the researchers said in a statement today. Overweight people showed brain loss in the basal ganglia, the corona radiata, white matter comprised of axons, and the parietal lobe (sensory lobe).

2009-08-25 5:41 PM
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It's worth remembering that correlation is not causality. As far as I can tell, this study is a snapshot in time. It tells you nothing about how the degenerated brains got that way, and therefore one cannot draw conclusions about whether or not the subjects' weight caused the brain degeneration. (Or, plausibly, the other way around: could poorer brain function cause, in any number of different ways, an increase in weight?)

I'm no biologist, but one thing that's true across the sciences is that the coexistence of two characteristics at one moment in time tells you nothing about any kind of causal relationship between the two. Let's avoid leaping to conclusions here.
2009-08-25 5:42 PM
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puellasolis - 2009-08-25 5:41 PM

It's worth remembering that correlation is not causality. As far as I can tell, this study is a snapshot in time. It tells you nothing about how the degenerated brains got that way, and therefore one cannot draw conclusions about whether or not the subjects' weight caused the brain degeneration. (Or, plausibly, the other way around: could poorer brain function cause, in any number of different ways, an increase in weight?)

I'm no biologist, but one thing that's true across the sciences is that the coexistence of two characteristics at one moment in time tells you nothing about any kind of causal relationship between the two. Let's avoid leaping to conclusions here.


Thank you.
2009-08-25 7:03 PM
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puellasolis - 2009-08-25 6:41 PM

It's worth remembering that correlation is not causality. As far as I can tell, this study is a snapshot in time. It tells you nothing about how the degenerated brains got that way, and therefore one cannot draw conclusions about whether or not the subjects' weight caused the brain degeneration. (Or, plausibly, the other way around: could poorer brain function cause, in any number of different ways, an increase in weight?)

I'm no biologist, but one thing that's true across the sciences is that the coexistence of two characteristics at one moment in time tells you nothing about any kind of causal relationship between the two. Let's avoid leaping to conclusions here.


x2

more broadly, how about we lay off of fat people for a few days?
2009-08-25 7:47 PM
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jimbo - 2009-08-25 8:03 PM

  x2 more broadly, how about we lay off of fat people for a few days?


isn't that what the reduced sexual activity refers to?


2009-08-25 7:58 PM
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TriToy - 2009-08-25 7:47 PM
jimbo - 2009-08-25 8:03 PM

  x2 more broadly, how about we lay off of fat people for a few days?


isn't that what the reduced sexual activity refers to?


ROFL!!!  I spit water on the computer with that one, Cat.  Thanks!
2009-08-26 8:04 AM
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puellasolis - 2009-08-25 6:41 PM It's worth remembering that correlation is not causality. As far as I can tell, this study is a snapshot in time. It tells you nothing about how the degenerated brains got that way, and therefore one cannot draw conclusions about whether or not the subjects' weight caused the brain degeneration. (Or, plausibly, the other way around: could poorer brain function cause, in any number of different ways, an increase in weight?) I'm no biologist, but one thing that's true across the sciences is that the coexistence of two characteristics at one moment in time tells you nothing about any kind of causal relationship between the two. Let's avoid leaping to conclusions here.



I just finished reading Freakenomics yesterday and was thinking of the same argument when I read this article! 
2009-08-26 12:34 PM
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I went to my doctor who told me I was morbidly obese. I told him I wanted a second opinion. He said, "Ok, you're stupid too"
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