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2009-06-25 1:35 PM

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Guys,

Can someone help me understand how indoor pool tri works ?

As there are always more athletes then swimming lanes I dont understand how this works.

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2009-06-25 1:38 PM
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The two that I have done had different waves for everyone. Each wave had a two swimmers per lane. It was just like swimming in the pool on any other day.
2009-06-25 1:40 PM
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Indoor pool tris are common here in the early season.

I've seen two formats.

A) Someone counts your laps and usually indicates to you when you are reaching the end of your laps. You then get out of the pool and continue to T1. There is a maximum number of swimmers per lane, so when one gets out, the next is signaled to get in.

B) A snake swim, where you snake up and down the lanes. For example, we have a 50m pool with 8 lanes. So for an 800m swim, you start at one end of the pool, swim up and down a lane (100m), duck under the lane rope to the next lane, up and down, continued to the end of the pool, where you get out and continue to T1. Sometimes they have a 1500m swim in the pool too, so you have to get out "walk" back to the start and snake through again.

2009-06-25 1:41 PM
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I have only done one, mine was a snake swim. Meaning you swam down lane 1, went under the lane rope and swam back lane 2 then back down lane3 and so on and so forth.  They sent a new person every 5 seconds.  Fun fun!!
2009-06-25 1:50 PM
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My first tri is a pool tri and I'm pretty darn nervous about it.
Shad01 you said they send a person ever 5 seconds, so what happens if the person that is behind you is faster than you, do they just pass you and keep going?

2009-06-25 1:53 PM
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I have one this weekend where the swim is the last leg. Run, Bike, Swim in a pool. Should be interesting.


2009-06-25 1:55 PM
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Mindy.....they usually have you lined up by how fast you think you can finish the swim distance....but you will always have slower people in front of faster ones...tap their foot...hopefully they will let you pass....if not, pass them anyway
2009-06-25 2:02 PM
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Oh I see. Thanks.  
2009-06-25 2:15 PM
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The sprint tri that I am doing in September (my first) is a snake style deal.  When I signed up, they asked me what my 1/4 mile swim time was (it's only a 1/4 mile swim), to use to set up the waves.  They also said there would be a penalty if you were faster or slower than this time (not sure what the penalty is, and by how much you'd have to over- or undershoot your estimate before they would apply it).  I pulled a number out of my butt, because I have not swum a 1/4 mile in 9 years.  Hopefully they will let me update it if I need to as I get closer to race day.
2009-06-25 2:41 PM
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jsoza - 2009-06-25 1:55 PM Mindy.....they usually have you lined up by how fast you think you can finish the swim distance....but you will always have slower people in front of faster ones...tap their foot...hopefully they will let you pass....if not, pass them anyway


x2 yep. That is the standard, tap their feet. It can get a little crazy, mine did, people got a little jammed up,  but I made it.  To answer another question, as far as the tri I did, the race director did let you change your seed time on race day. He said you could move back but not forward. So if you think your time is a little too fast, you should be able to move back further in line. This was the case in the one I did, that is probably up to the race director though.
2009-06-25 2:51 PM
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shad01 - 2009-06-25 2:41 PM

jsoza - 2009-06-25 1:55 PM Mindy.....they usually have you lined up by how fast you think you can finish the swim distance....but you will always have slower people in front of faster ones...tap their foot...hopefully they will let you pass....if not, pass them anyway


x2 yep. That is the standard, tap their feet. It can get a little crazy, mine did, people got a little jammed up,  but I made it.  To answer another question, as far as the tri I did, the race director did let you change your seed time on race day. He said you could move back but not forward. So if you think your time is a little too fast, you should be able to move back further in line. This was the case in the one I did, that is probably up to the race director though.


Most of the pool swim races I've done only let you change it up to a week before the race. I did compete in a few where if you felt like you seeded yourself too early, you can go at the very end.

Either way ... I can't stress how important it is to submit an accurate time. If the race director asks for a specific time at a specific distance, do your other competitors a favor and go out and swim it and time yourself. Don't just make up a time, because most of the time you'll seed yourself too early and thus create all kinds of problems.

I've seen people who seeded themselves in the first 20 swimmers at various races, swimming backstroke, breaststroke (slowly) and walking in the pool.

In my last race, I passed no fewer then four people, three of whom were walking ... and I am a pretty slow swimmer.


2009-06-25 3:42 PM
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Well, I plan to jump in the pool three days after I get home from my summer field trip here in Iraq, and find out an accurate time.  Once I do that, I'll send it on to the race director.  I went with what I thought was an ultraconservative time when I signed up for the race.
2009-06-25 4:46 PM
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mindymin21 - 2009-06-25 2:50 PM

My first tri is a pool tri and I'm pretty darn nervous about it.
Shad01 you said they send a person ever 5 seconds, so what happens if the person that is behind you is faster than you, do they just pass you and keep going?


I just finished my first tri, it was outside and in a pool. We swam 8 lengths (up one lane, under the lane line then down the next lane).  A slower swimmer should swim to the right and let the faster swimmer pass on the left.  Problem is, some will do freestyle, some will do breaststroke, others if too tired will walk. 
Just remember to swim your own pace, do what you do ........... don't let all the commotion around you rattle you.  Lots of us got out of breath just due to the excitement, but swim confident and you will do just fine !
GOOD LUCK !! Do not fear this, enjoy it........... you will do great !  Also we thought it was every 5 seconds but we ende dup doing every 10.
2009-06-25 5:04 PM
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I've done a local tri several times now and it uses an indoor pool swim. It's a 50m pool and up to twelve of us swim circles in each lane, starting at 5 second intervals. We're seeded by the swim time we put down and they allow changes up to a week or two before the event. There are lap counters and your starting place in the lane is indicated by the color of the swim cap they give you. It can get crowded and there is usually lots of passing and drafting, though after a few years now I've noticed less passing as I'm getting into faster lanes.
2009-06-25 5:57 PM
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When you pass make sure you look to see if someone is in the oncoming lane. If you cant pass without a head on collision wait until you get to the wall then go forward.

If you are the person that someone is trying to pass, stay to the right so they can get by or pause at the wall in the corner.

Its a pretty hectic format. You wont break any records. But like others have said time yourself before the race and know where you should be placed in the pack come race day.

Have fun!! Good luck!
2009-06-26 7:53 AM
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Re passing people: In a tri I did a few weeks ago we were not allowed to pass mid way down the lane you had to tap the ankles and then wait to the end of that length where the other competitor was supposed to let you through.

Generally it worked ok as I was neither significantly faster or slower than the people I set off near so I didn’t mind waiting until the end of that length.

However there was an 81 year old lady who took 25 mins to do the 400m so there was some serious bunching around her! But fair play to her for completing it!



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I did a pool swim that was a bit hectic.  The pool had 50m lanes and it was a down and back in each lane then under the rope.  We were supposed to pass in the middle and there were several people who didn't submit an accurate swim time.  I hit two people passing (both of us were in the middle of the lane) and had to stop completely each time.  Its part of it though...my swim time suffered.
2009-06-26 2:13 PM
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maxmansmom thank you for the encouraging words, it’s really nice to hear. Smile

2009-06-26 2:42 PM
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I did one last year - 200m in a 50m pool.  Like the others said - they had us line up according to our estimated speed/100m with the faster swimmers in the front.  We'd line up - they'd sound the bell and off we'd go.  They next wave would start when we had reached the other end of the pool length So at most there were two swimmers per lane.  And we snaked up and down the two lanes.  All in all it was pretty organized and there wasn't any chance of passing unless you didn't estimate your speed properly.

A couple of notes from my experience -
We had the option of diving in or slipping in the pool and pushing off at the bell.  I decided to dive in and off flew my goggles AND I lost a contact lens.  A *real* pain in the butt for the rest of the tri.  From now on - if I do one again - it's slip in and push off for me.

I think the hardest part of the swim was getting OUT of the pool!  Thank God the photographer wasn't around to watch me hoist my body up and then I did this weird tuck and roll off the edge Embarassed  Very classy sporty-like move!

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