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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() OK, so sure he's an independent who has little chance to make it anywhere in this election. But honestly I can find little fault with any of his platforms. The dude is a true social liberal, fiscal conservative. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Gary_Johnson So here's my idea. Every Republican who wants to vote for him, find a Democrat you can convince to vote for him (and vice versa). That way he doesn't "steal" votes from one candidate. Will he win? Nope. But maybe if a 3rd party candidate got 10-12% of the vote it might open people's eyes. Of course I might find a bag of money on the way home too... sigh... So you commie pinko liberals and right wing freaks... would you vote for him based on his platform? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I was REALLY disappointed when he wasn't even given the time of day in the Republican primaries. Heck, some debates he was even left out of. I'm glad he's still running, even as an independent, and he's getting my vote. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 10-12% of the vote would not only open some eyes, it would also allow the Libertarian Party to grab a share of the presidential election campaign fund. That's a big step to breaking this two party system. Johnson has my vote. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() i like gary johnson, started looking into him a few months ago. i agree with him on more issues than either other candidate by a long shot. i don't know much about his background though...would be interested in that as well as his positions on the issues, just curious. in general, i would love to shake up the bipartisan system, which will be the only way to really change how government is done (congress, i'm looking at you). i will be happy to vote for a candidate i actually like for a change, rather than the lesser of 2 evils. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Here here. He's already got my vote. I even convinced my wife, a liberal teacher type, to vote for him because in Idaho a vote for Obama is worthless. Also, if you really look at it, in 90% of the country your vote is wasted anyway. There are only a handful of areas where a few votes swing an area to one candidate or the other. None of them are in Idaho. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mehaner - 2012-09-12 11:01 AM i like gary johnson, started looking into him a few months ago. i agree with him on more issues than either other candidate by a long shot. i don't know much about his background though...would be interested in that as well as his positions on the issues, just curious. in general, i would love to shake up the bipartisan system, which will be the only way to really change how government is done (congress, i'm looking at you). i will be happy to vote for a candidate i actually like for a change, rather than the lesser of 2 evils. He was the Gov. of NM for 8 years. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I read an article about him when he was still in the Repub primaries and thought he was worth a look. I would vote for him if I lived in a strong red state to help support a 3rd party. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mehaner - 2012-09-12 1:01 PM i like gary johnson, started looking into him a few months ago. i agree with him on more issues than either other candidate by a long shot. i don't know much about his background though...would be interested in that as well as his positions on the issues, just curious. in general, i would love to shake up the bipartisan system, which will be the only way to really change how government is done (congress, i'm looking at you). i will be happy to vote for a candidate i actually like for a change, rather than the lesser of 2 evils. http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/major-feature-from-outside-magazine-failure-to-launch This is the article that introduced me to him earlier in the campaign season. A few things that stand out...
Dude is a badass ... Edited by TriRSquared 2012-09-12 12:23 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I lived in NM through is time as governor. While I didn't pay as much attention as I probably should have (I lothe politics), what I do know of him speaks well for him. The only thing I'm not completely on-board with is drug legalization. While I don't think the War On Drugs is effective at more than driving the street price up, neither do I think the other end of the spectrum is the right answer. That doesn't mean I'd vote against him if he makes it far enough to be voted for; I'm very supportive of "shaking up" the status quo. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() RBesecke - 2012-09-12 11:50 AM I lived in NM through is time as governor. While I didn't pay as much attention as I probably should have (I lothe politics), what I do know of him speaks well for him. The only thing I'm not completely on-board with is drug legalization. While I don't think the War On Drugs is effective at more than driving the street price up, neither do I think the other end of the spectrum is the right answer. That doesn't mean I'd vote against him if he makes it far enough to be voted for; I'm very supportive of "shaking up" the status quo. I don't mean to hijack, but you started it. I think every drug should be legal. It has nothing to do with it being a good idea. It is that criminalization of drugs is so so much worse. Inflating stree prices is the least of them. There will always be users and addicts. There is a ton of help available and could be a ton more. The taxation of drugs could fund the entire administration and help needed to those that are ready for it. Funding criminal enterprizes and having zero effect on stopping end users is doing much more harm than letting someone get high. His stance on the issue is the only sane one. He has my vote. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() powerman - 2012-09-12 7:21 PM RBesecke - 2012-09-12 11:50 AM I lived in NM through is time as governor. While I didn't pay as much attention as I probably should have (I lothe politics), what I do know of him speaks well for him. The only thing I'm not completely on-board with is drug legalization. While I don't think the War On Drugs is effective at more than driving the street price up, neither do I think the other end of the spectrum is the right answer. That doesn't mean I'd vote against him if he makes it far enough to be voted for; I'm very supportive of "shaking up" the status quo. I don't mean to hijack, but you started it. I think every drug should be legal. It has nothing to do with it being a good idea. It is that criminalization of drugs is so so much worse. Inflating stree prices is the least of them. There will always be users and addicts. There is a ton of help available and could be a ton more. The taxation of drugs could fund the entire administration and help needed to those that are ready for it. Funding criminal enterprizes and having zero effect on stopping end users is doing much more harm than letting someone get high. His stance on the issue is the only sane one. He has my vote. he actually supports legalization because he thinks it will help with immigration - once mexican drug czars no longer have a monopoly on the drug market in the US a lot of the illegal immigration will drop off. that is not the extent of his immigrtaion policy, he has some great views on immigrants becoming legal as well. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mehaner - 2012-09-12 6:09 PM powerman - 2012-09-12 7:21 PM I don't mean to hijack, but you started it. I think every drug should be legal... There will always be users and addicts. There is a ton of help available and could be a ton more. The taxation of drugs could fund the entire administration... His stance on the issue is the only sane one. He has my vote. he actually supports legalization because he thinks it will help with immigration - once mexican drug czars no longer have a monopoly on the drug market in the US a lot of the illegal immigration will drop off... he has some great views on immigrants becoming legal as well. Yah, I started it. I'll try to not keep the hijacked-subject going too long, I'll just say that I don't completely agree or disagree, and I won't criticize for your different perspective(s). Rehabilitation programs and programs that intercept kids before they get going on the path of substance abuse are much MUCH more effective than our current War On Drugs, but they aren't as politically motivating, as "actionable". My view would use up too much space in this already-hijacked thread, so I'll stop myself here. I also believe that our current immigration laws need to be altered. I don't like the idea of "A Path To Citizenship" for folks who are already here illegally, but I'm all for a Legal Resident status for those with no other criminal history, so long as they contribute to society in some constructive manner. The one thing I strongly agree with is that our current political system is in need of being changed in a constructive way. I'm willing to give Gary Johnson a shot if he's on the ballot. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() He does not say specifically to legalize drugs, just that the war should end...he's all for legalizing weed though. Humm. After reading through his stances... I'm actually shocked how much I agree with him. Heck, I thought Ron Paul was cool, but some of his ideas are hard to swallow. I disagree with very little with Johnson. As with all politicians, they can't get done everything they want. I thought the same of Paul. That he would not accomplish 10% of what he wanted... but that he was a move in the right direction. Most of what Johnson talks about are pretty common sense approaches... If you feel cutting the Federal government by 43% is common sense. Interesting number...43%. But of course... if he ever got any REAL attention.... after BOTH parties get done smearing him and turning him into the most hated man in history.... we won't have to worry about any more silly common sense ruining Washington any time soon. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() What % did Perot get in 1992? I think it was more then 10% and it died right after that(3rd party idea)! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2012-09-12 11:10 AM OK, so sure he's an independent who has little chance to make it anywhere in this election. But honestly I can find little fault with any of his platforms. The dude is a true social liberal, fiscal conservative. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Gary_Johnson So here's my idea. Every Republican who wants to vote for him, find a Democrat you can convince to vote for him (and vice versa). That way he doesn't "steal" votes from one candidate. Will he win? Nope. But maybe if a 3rd party candidate got 10-12% of the vote it might open people's eyes. Of course I might find a bag of money on the way home too... sigh... So you commie pinko liberals and right wing freaks... would you vote for him based on his platform? I'm a gun-rights, strong military (non-nuke) liberal (if there is such a thing). Johnson's platform should resonate with a lot of Americans. He is what the Republican Party was SUPPOSED to be! My only issue with him is his view on Public Education. I don't think that less money will make better schools. We need to get rid of the layers of beauracracy at the local level and put the resources into the hands of the teachers. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PhilipRay - 2012-09-12 10:07 PM What % did Perot get in 1992? I think it was more then 10% and it died right after that(3rd party idea)! Perot was weird. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() powerman - 2012-09-12 9:55 PM After reading through his stances... I'm actually shocked how much I agree with him. Heck, I thought Ron Paul was cool, but some of his ideas are hard to swallow. I disagree with very little with Johnson. I see Johnson as the more sane and stable version of Ron Paul. I like some of Paul's ideas too but some of them are a little to out there. Woo hoo.. let's keep the Gary Johnson ball rolling... |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PhilipRay - 2012-09-12 11:07 PM What % did Perot get in 1992? I think it was more then 10% and it died right after that(3rd party idea)! 18.9% Wow I did not remember it being that high. OK, we need to shoot for 25% then. Of course I think the disgust with both of the parties is much higher than it was back then. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() pga_mike - 2012-09-13 7:22 AM My only issue with him is his view on Public Education. I don't think that less money will make better schools. We need to get rid of the layers of beauracracy at the local level and put the resources into the hands of the teachers. I don't see where he's talking about less money. He wants to get rid of the DOE. If his claims are correct 11 cents of every dollar the states spend comes from the DOE but it has 16 cents of future obligations attached. So it's a net loss over time. Also there is nothing saying that those 11 cents cannot still be given to the states. Just get rid of the layer of waste that is the DOE. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2012-09-13 6:05 AM PhilipRay - 2012-09-12 11:07 PM What % did Perot get in 1992? I think it was more then 10% and it died right after that(3rd party idea)! 18.9% Wow I did not remember it being that high. OK, we need to shoot for 25% then. Of course I think the disgust with both of the parties is much higher than it was back then. Ya, Perot had a real kooky way about him, but he had the ability to relate to people. And he was funny and blunt. But right now.... once again, I'm going ona rant.... I do feel both parties are at a all time low with their followers. Sure, the faithful will remain so, but both have pissed a lot of their folks off with the silliness. If a third party can't get a foot hold in this political climate, it never will. The problem I see is that the only real true party is a conservative type libertarian party. Sure everyone agrees with letting every one get high, but it pretty much ends there. The only voice is one of less government, and that does not resonate with the left side of the spectrum. So all those folks in the middle don't really have a unifying alternative that is moderate cinservative/liberal.... so then just stick with the status quo and hope someday they start listening to you. you have the Green Party which to me is really the left side opposite of Libertarians. It does not resonate with a broad spectrum of possible supporters. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/13/what-if-2012-election-changes-nothing/
This is exactly why you should vote for a 3rd party, regardless of which party it is. |