RNC Convention

CLINT EASTWOOD!

Discuss. 

"What do you want me to tell Romney?  I can't tell him to do that to himself ... you're getting as bad as Biden"

He definitely had a few funny one liners, but overall I felt it was pretty awkward in general.  I love Clint, but I don't think he's the best public speaker at this stage in his life.

Rubio's was good.  Ryan's was embarassing in the many ways that he misrepresented the truth.  Condi was strong. 

Overall, that little meter over at Politifact was pegged. 

Romney's wasn't bad. he worked hard to seem kinder and gentler- which was the intention.  Let Ryan be more of the attack dog.  (as Biden is for Obama).

I thought the reachout to women fell flat.  yes - we know you all like women, but they're not going to vote for you if you take their reproductive rights back to the 1960's no matter how many jobs you promise them. 

Having recently read the Lorax to my daughter, Romney did sound a little like the Onceler at times.  "Business is business and business must grow, regardless of crummies in tummies you know" (or, in romney's case, regardless of ocean levels rising, same difference).

It was a show.  Often times, a good show.

Funny how everyone is pointing at the other guy saying "he's going to take away your medicare".  Kinda' makes you think that americans might actually like single payer health care. 

Imma let McKayla answer this one:

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Which truths did Ryan misrepresent?  Not saying you're wrong, but I've seen some fact checks that got fact checked today (as in the fact checks were misrepresenting the truth as well)  

I agree that they were trying to reach out to women, but I personally think the reproductive rights arguments is what the Obama team is trying to run on in an economic election.  It's obviously important to a lot of people but I think the economy is more important this election.  Also, I've seen no policies/proposals that would take the reproductive rights back to the 1960's.

I also agree that the medicare fight is kind of funny with both pointing at each other.  Amazingly from a pure politics standpoint I'm stunned that team Romney seems to be winning the Medicare battle.  (Romney is out-polling President Barack Obama on Medicare among seniors by margins of 48 percent to 44 percent in Florida and 49 percent to 43 percent in Ohio, according to the New York Times/CBS/Quinnipiac poll)

As a fairly conservative voter, I thought it was okay.  Mitt was decent.  Ryan was really good.  I was annoyed by Mitt's wife though.

Romney will make a good President, if elected.  I'm rather concerned that we are in for four more years though.

There were a few pot shots at Obama that were funny but childish.  That's what the conventions are all about though.  We will see the same thing next week.

lol, i love it

Ya, when Ryan pinned the credit down grade on Obama... speachless. I mean it is one of those lies that is so blatantly wrong, you start questioning if it is you. Because nobody could possibly expect you to believe someone would tell such a lie.

I didn't really watch it... it was on in the background. It was a GOP convention, what else did anyone expect? Romney was doing his best.... but then at the end he started rattling off the talking points... oh, OK, this the part you say the code words and pander to the base... sad. Even tied Obama to Carter....nice. He did say his 5 point plan... which amounted to zero details.

I'm not hating. Business as usual. The Dems will do the same thing.

The writer of that opinion piece seems to have an axe to grind.    I saw this article this morning which is the one I was referring to.  They were mostly talking about the factory shutdown and the debt commission which is what the DNC was hitting him on.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/30/fact-check-paul-ryan-convention-address/

I will agree with you that I don't think all the attacks were necessary, true or untrue.  Put your economic plan out there and sell it to the voters.

The peanuts issue was stupid, for sure, but it would be tough to watch any political event if we only watched the ones that didn't have dumb people doing dumb things.  

I've always looked at the conventions as infomercials.  Don't get me wrong, at times, infomercials can be fun to watch.  In this case, the Eastwood schtick was just flat awkward.  Let's just say the comedic timing was reeeeally lacking.  I really felt bad for Clint.  I kept thinking, this is the guy that brought me Gran Torino?  Seriously??

Yeah, Ryan's a good attack dog...as all VP candidates need to be.  Don't worry folks on the Right, Joe B.'s speech will receive the same scrutiny from the fact-checkers.

Similar to '08, the Republicans are in a tough spot...when you are the party of "cutting spending," lots of folks are going to be asking, "What are you cutting, and why?"

Overall, the convention confirmed my previously held belief.  Mitt is a nice guy, a nice family guy.  (I really like his wife too)  I would love to have this guy as a neighbor...but that said, he's a little socially awkward...maybe he's not comfortable speaking in front of a camera?  

Another problem for the Republicans that wasn't solved, and really how could it be, is the fact they are trailing when it comes to female voters.  They made a VP selection of a man who would outlaw abortions in all cases, even rape or incest.  I think that's where the earlier, "Back to the 1960's" line in this thread came from.

btw, yes tuwood, Rubio was very good...it left me wondering why Mitt didn't tap him for the veep spot.  

 Wouldn't he need the SCOTUS to overturn Roe vs. Wade first? His personal beliefs aren't going to change the way the Scotus is stacked on the issue. 

Correct...and who nominates the Justices?  That's my point.  Bottom line, a conservative Oval Office nominates pro-life justices and vice versa.  

Obviously, both sides have their unpopular stances...and my point was Ryan's is incredibly unpopular (no abortion even in cases of rape or incest).  I believe Romney's latest stance was that he's against it now, but is okay with exceptions in cases of rape or incest now...which differs from his firm pro-choice stance from years ago.

Yep, the nomination process is the big chess game. I think regardless of how far right he is on the issue, they nominate a conservative judge. How far right that judge leans is ultimately a party decision, subject to politics within the Republican machine, not Ryan's.

I think the reason Rubio wasn't tapped is that he is being saved for later. I think he's got what it takes to run for the #1 slot on his own in a few cycles.

What I can't understand for the life of me is how abortion is even a subject of discussion for POTUS.... I mean give me a break, it's a done deal. Yet each side just uses it as a club on each other even though there is no practical use for it at all.

Roe v. Wade is not getting overturned. Congress will never be able to get a bill passed to outlaw. No President will ever sign into law a ban on abortion. Niether party wants to truely take on the issue on the Hill or the SC... yet both parties proudly struts their position on the topic and then goes about their buisness.

I do not believe in piece meal laws... the law of the land should be that... but in this one instance, this one case, where some feel it is murder of an inoccent child... I do agree that Federal funds should not be used. That's it. It's legal, no federal funds. If you want one, have one. If not, don't. If you want somone else to have one... then pay for it through your local charity, if not, then don't. Pretty darn simple. Can we move on now!!!

Yes, Ryan would outlaw abortion in every case. Great. Can he... no, not now, not ever. He has a greater chance of being the first man on Mars... and I don't really care if he would be in favor of that either.

I respectfully disagree.  There are a host of issues that will impact this election, especially with different segments of the population...women, Latinos, union workers, teachers, etc.  Immigration, foreign policy, separation of church and state, women's reproductive rights just to name a few...the list goes on.     

As for the "plan" put forward by the GOP, I will be interested to see how energized the American public will be when they are asked to watch the richest Americans during a time of economic challenge be given tax cuts.  I think we can agree that the overwhelming majority (when laying out their pros and cons) will place that in the cons column.  

Hopefully the R's will be able to steer the focus back to the economy. If they can accomplish that, they win. Count on the D's to launch a ton of irrelevant information to distract the voter from the issue of the economy and their track record since assuming total control of the government during the Bush admin. I hope the country is tired of seeing the (insert race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. ) card being thrown every time a non-democrat opens their mouth. I am.

 I'd be more interested to see how long the that overwhelming majority will chew on that "class envy bone" being tossed out there by a group of people that are 1%ers themselves. That's some rich irony right there...